Robert Ingersoll (look him up) was a remarkable man and his writings are forceful even 100 years later.
This is one that I think stands out for its force and brevity on how we should actually view the character of Jesus in the Bible.
"IS CHRIST OUR EXAMPLE?
HE never said a word in favor of education. He never even hinted at the existence of any science. He never uttered a word in favor of industry, economy or of any effort to better our condition in this world. He was the enemy of the successful, of the wealthy. Dives was sent to hell, not because he was bad, but because he was rich. Lazarus went to heaven, not because he was good, but because he was poor.
Christ cared nothing for painting, for sculpture, for music—nothing for any art. He said nothing about the duties of nation to nation, of king to subject; nothing about the rights of man; nothing about intellectual liberty or the freedom of speech. He said nothing about the sacredness of home; not one word for the fireside; not a word in favor of marriage, in honor of maternity.
He never married. He wandered homeless from place to place with a few disciples. None of them seem to have been engaged in any useful business, and they seem to have lived on alms.
All human ties were held in contempt; this world was sacrificed for the next; all human effort was discouraged. God would support and protect.
At last, in the dusk of death, Christ, finding that he was mistaken, cried out: "My God! My God! Why hast thou forsaken me?"
We have found that man must depend on himself. He must clear the land; he must build the home; he must plow and plant; he must invent; he must work with hand and brain; he must overcome the difficulties and obstructions; he must conquer and enslave the forces of nature to the end that they may do the work of the world."
Comments, questions or concerns?
He was a twit.
Well, i wouldn't go that far, but Jesus certainly was no Rhodes Scholar, that's true.
Robert Ingersoll (look him up) was a remarkable man and his writings are forceful even 100 years later.
This is one that I think stands out for its force and brevity on how we should actually view the character of Jesus in the Bible.
"IS CHRIST OUR EXAMPLE?
HE never said a word in favor of education. He never even hinted at the existence of any science. He never uttered a word in favor of industry, economy or of any effort to better our condition in this world. He was the enemy of the successful, of the wealthy. Dives was sent to hell, not because he was bad, but because he was rich. Lazarus went to heaven, not because he was good, but because he was poor.
Christ cared nothing for painting, for sculpture, for music—nothing for any art. He said nothing about the duties of nation to nation, of king to subject; nothing about the rights of man; nothing about intellectual liberty or the freedom of speech. He said nothing about the sacredness of home; not one word for the fireside; not a word in favor of marriage, in honor of maternity.
He never married. He wandered homeless from place to place with a few disciples. None of them seem to have been engaged in any useful business, and they seem to have lived on alms.
All human ties were held in contempt; this world was sacrificed for the next; all human effort was discouraged. God would support and protect.
At last, in the dusk of death, Christ, finding that he was mistaken, cried out: "My God! My God! Why hast thou forsaken me?"
We have found that man must depend on himself. He must clear the land; he must build the home; he must plow and plant; he must invent; he must work with hand and brain; he must overcome the difficulties and obstructions; he must conquer and enslave the forces of nature to the end that they may do the work of the world."
Comments, questions or concerns?
Robert Ingersoll (look him up) was a remarkable man and his writings are forceful even 100 years later.
This is one that I think stands out for its force and brevity on how we should actually view the character of Jesus in the Bible.
"IS CHRIST OUR EXAMPLE?
HE never said a word in favor of education. He never even hinted at the existence of any science. He never uttered a word in favor of industry, economy or of any effort to better our condition in this world. He was the enemy of the successful, of the wealthy. Dives was sent to hell, not because he was bad, but because he was rich. Lazarus went to heaven, not because he was good, but because he was poor.
Christ cared nothing for painting, for sculpture, for music—nothing for any art. He said nothing about the duties of nation to nation, of king to subject; nothing about the rights of man; nothing about intellectual liberty or the freedom of speech. He said nothing about the sacredness of home; not one word for the fireside; not a word in favor of marriage, in honor of maternity.
He never married. He wandered homeless from place to place with a few disciples. None of them seem to have been engaged in any useful business, and they seem to have lived on alms.
All human ties were held in contempt; this world was sacrificed for the next; all human effort was discouraged. God would support and protect.
At last, in the dusk of death, Christ, finding that he was mistaken, cried out: "My God! My God! Why hast thou forsaken me?"
We have found that man must depend on himself. He must clear the land; he must build the home; he must plow and plant; he must invent; he must work with hand and brain; he must overcome the difficulties and obstructions; he must conquer and enslave the forces of nature to the end that they may do the work of the world."
Comments, questions or concerns?
Yes, they are suspect of not caring about such things.Wow, because someone does not mention a topic then they are suspect?
I probably know more about Christianity than you, but this was written by Robert Ingersoll, the son of a pastor.You also seem to not actually know what some of his teaching were about, meaning you missed the point.
What logic is flawed? And, yes, all beliefs based on the supernatural are a bunch of hooey.Me thinks you Logic is majorly flawed but then again most of those attempting to convince themselves that religion is all a bunch of fiction usually do have to revert to bad logic practices and often show they really have not thought the idea through well.
My question is why would someone that does not believe in a religion or persons teachings spend their time try to disprove something they believe to be a myth, you trying to convince others or yourself?
This post reeks ignorance.
You have already proven you know squat about Christianity, no matter what you claim.Yes, they are suspect of not caring about such things.
I probably know more about Christianity than you, but this was written by Robert Ingersoll, the son of a pastor.
What logic is flawed? And, yes, all beliefs based on the supernatural are a bunch of hooey.
Because they want to? Do I need a reason?
Others.
In what way, drive by poster?
You are just trying to inflame and pick a fight by posting lies.
You have already proven you know squat about Christianity, no matter what you claim.
Yes, attack something you believe does not exist and then call others deranged, yes, you are the expert on logic, :lamo
What about it is a lie? Do you have inside information on what Jesus thought of, say, theater, art, economics, science?
He didn't care! He thought the end of the world was nigh.
I promise I know more about Christianity than you. I bet you haven't even read the Bible. I bet you don't even know what P52 is.
BTW, I am attacking a character in the Bible. I believe the Bible exists. So, you not only are wrong, but stupidly wrong. Plus, does that mean Climate Change deniers shouldn't attack Climate Change?
And, why do you attack an atheistic world view if you don't believe an atheistic world exists? See how stupid it sounds?
How about you guys defend your beliefs with some logic and evidence instead of getting all butthurt and blowing people up.
How about you guys defend your beliefs with some logic and evidence instead of getting all butthurt and blowing people up.
What about it is a lie? Do you have inside information on what Jesus thought of, say, theater, art, economics, science?
He didn't care! He thought the end of the world was nigh.
You would lose that bet, I have read front to back twice. Assuming only makes the ASSUMER look ignorant and often arrogant.I promise I know more about Christianity than you. I bet you haven't even read the Bible. I bet you don't even know what P52 is.
BTW, I am attacking a character in the Bible. I believe the Bible exists. So, you not only are wrong, but stupidly wrong. Plus, does that mean Climate Change deniers shouldn't attack Climate Change?
And, why do you attack an atheistic world view if you don't believe an atheistic world exists? See how stupid it sounds?
How about you guys defend your beliefs with some logic and evidence instead of getting all butthurt and blowing people up.
Prove it.
You would lose that bet, I have read front to back twice. Assuming only makes the ASSUMER look ignorant and often arrogant.
I never said I do not believe the Bible exists, I am talking about the belief itself, and so were you, slick.
I did not attack anything, I pointed out the illogic in your attacks.
Why should I defend anything, you do not believe and do not want to so the effort would be a waste of time. my my your Lack-O-Class is showing, again.
You are spending an awful lot of time on someone you don't want to spend any time on. Why is that?
And as for assuming, you assumed I didn't know about the Bible. You were wrong. So, a little dose of your own medicine.
But here's an idea: how about you drop the childish behavior and actually discuss a topic?
Not worth wasting time on such a worthless OP.
But you posted 5 times on this worthless OP
Robert Ingersoll (look him up) was a remarkable man and his writings are forceful even 100 years later.
This is one that I think stands out for its force and brevity on how we should actually view the character of Jesus in the Bible.
"IS CHRIST OUR EXAMPLE?
HE never said a word in favor of education. He never even hinted at the existence of any science. He never uttered a word in favor of industry, economy or of any effort to better our condition in this world. He was the enemy of the successful, of the wealthy. Dives was sent to hell, not because he was bad, but because he was rich. Lazarus went to heaven, not because he was good, but because he was poor.
Christ cared nothing for painting, for sculpture, for music—nothing for any art. He said nothing about the duties of nation to nation, of king to subject; nothing about the rights of man; nothing about intellectual liberty or the freedom of speech. He said nothing about the sacredness of home; not one word for the fireside; not a word in favor of marriage, in honor of maternity.
He never married. He wandered homeless from place to place with a few disciples. None of them seem to have been engaged in any useful business, and they seem to have lived on alms.
All human ties were held in contempt; this world was sacrificed for the next; all human effort was discouraged. God would support and protect.
At last, in the dusk of death, Christ, finding that he was mistaken, cried out: "My God! My God! Why hast thou forsaken me?"
We have found that man must depend on himself. He must clear the land; he must build the home; he must plow and plant; he must invent; he must work with hand and brain; he must overcome the difficulties and obstructions; he must conquer and enslave the forces of nature to the end that they may do the work of the world."
Comments, questions or concerns?
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from my cries of anguish?
2 My God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, but I find no rest.
3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the one Israel praises.[c]
4 In you our ancestors put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.
5 To you they cried out and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not put to shame.
6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by everyone, despised by the people.
7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads.
8 “He trusts in the Lord,” they say,
“let the Lord rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him.”
9 Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you, even at my mother’s breast.
10 From birth I was cast on you;
from my mother’s womb you have been my God.
11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.
12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.
13 Roaring lions that tear their prey
open their mouths wide against me.
14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted within me.
15 My mouth[d] is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.
16 Dogs surround me,
a pack of villains encircles me;
they pierce[e] my hands and my feet.
17 All my bones are on display;
people stare and gloat over me.
18 They divide my clothes among them
and cast lots for my garment.
19 But you, Lord, do not be far from me.
You are my strength; come quickly to help me.
20 Deliver me from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+22
You are spending an awful lot of time on someone you don't want to spend any time on. Why is that?
And as for assuming, you assumed I didn't know about the Bible. You were wrong. So, a little dose of your own medicine.
But here's an idea: how about you drop the childish behavior and actually discuss a topic?
He's demonstrating the irrationality of Christians better than I could.
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