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Is Barack Obama a Black Separatist?

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Is Barack Obama a Black Separatist?

Jim Kouri has posted a piece here repeating a claim (possibly fabricated by the Clinton smear machine) that Illinois Democrat Senator Barack Obama is a closet Muslim.

In his defense, a liberal calling himself (herself?) "Midwestern Progressive" informs us that Barack Obama is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. The church's website is here: http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

According to that website, Trinity United Church of Christ appears to be a black separatist congregation, deliberately segregating itself from the larger community. Notice that there's no commitment in that church community to the larger community, only to the black community.

"Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System."

Is Barack Obama a Black Separatist? | Urban Elephants

Sure sounds like it to me, replace the word black with the word white and that church sounds akin to Aryan Nations.
 
I really have my doubts about Hussein Obama and these Liberals are eating this guy up........

It will be to late if this clown gets elected somehow although I don't see himm carrying one state in the south.......
 
I really have my doubts about Hussein Obama and these Liberals are eating this guy up........

It will be to late if this clown gets elected somehow although I don't see himm carrying one state in the south.......

Just a quick question. Do you normally call people by their middle names or are you trying to establish a link between Barack and Saddam? Just curious because you seem to call everyone else by their First name. I haven't seen you yet refer to Bush as Walker Bush.
 
Just a quick question. Do you normally call people by their middle names or are you trying to establish a link between Barack and Saddam? Just curious because you seem to call everyone else by their First name. I haven't seen you yet refer to Bush as Walker Bush.

He was generally referred to as Bush Jr even though he was not a Jr or Shrub by the likes of Molly Ivans, and I can think of some more invectives used by the left.
 


Sure sounds like it to me, replace the word black with the word white and that church sounds akin to Aryan Nations.


If this is true he has a lot of esplaining to do but don't hold your breath that the MSM will even question him on it.
 
If this is true he has a lot of esplaining to do but don't hold your breath that the MSM will even question him on it.

That's why I watch the evil fox news it was on H&C tonight and the man who caught this little tid bit, is an African American himself. Go to the polls section I replaced black with white and asked if it was a white supremacist organization, watch the libs dance like puppets, at first it was racist but then when Kandahar chimed in they change their tunes in Obama's defense immediately, it's quite the spectacle.
 
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He was generally referred to as Bush Jr even though he was not a Jr or Shrub by the likes of Molly Ivans, and I can think of some more invectives used by the left.

So your saying Navy is just trying to demean Obama by resulting to name calling?
 
That's why I watch the evil fox news it was on H&C tonight and the man who caught this little tid bit, is an African American himself. Go to the polls section I replaced black with white and asked if it was a white supremacist organization, watch the libs dance like puppets, at first it was racist but then when Kandahar chimed in they change their tunes in Obama's defense immediately, it's quite the spectacle.

Oh it's on now you bitch. Kandahar? His perception was that this was a racist organisation. If you're going to attribute liberals changing their tunes to anything read post #6. You'll see that it was I, the great Hatuey, who made them change their respective tunes. Thank you VERY MUCH!
 
Oh it's on now you bitch. Kandahar? His perception was that this was a racist organisation. If you're going to attribute liberals changing their tunes to anything read post #6. You'll see that it was I, the great Hatuey, who made them change their respective tunes. Thank you VERY MUCH!

I already said Hatuey Akbar.
 
That's why I watch the evil fox news it was on H&C tonight and the man who caught this little tid bit, is an African American himself. Go to the polls section I replaced black with white and asked if it was a white supremacist organization, watch the libs dance like puppets, at first it was racist but then when Kandahar chimed in they change their tunes in Obama's defense immediately, it's quite the spectacle.

That's because it WAS racist the way you phrased it.

"White pride" organizations that aren't racist simply do not exist.

"Black pride" organizations can mean a wide variety of things...anything from truly racist organizations, to organizations committed to eliminating racism, to organizations committed to helping Africa, to organizations merely interested in celebrating their culture.

Double standard? Deal with it. "White pride" has a very specific meaning in our society, and it's not a good thing.
 
So your saying Navy is just trying to demean Obama by resulting to name calling?

Actually I'm saying he is exposing the hypocrisies of your side (sorry to blow it for you navy but they would have figgered it out sooner our later).
 
That's because it WAS racist the way you phrased it.

"White pride" organizations that aren't racist simply do not exist.

"Black pride" organizations can mean a wide variety of things...anything from truly racist organizations, to organizations committed to eliminating racism, to organizations committed to helping Africa, to organizations merely interested in celebrating their culture.

Double standard? Deal with it. "White pride" has a very specific meaning in our society, and it's not a good thing.

You just proved the point.
 
Actually I'm saying he is exposing the hypocrisies of your side (sorry to blow it for you navy but they would have figgered it out sooner our later).
Nice stretch. Navy seems to be "exposing hypocrises" by naming call quite often then.
 
Nope by giving examples.

"Hypocrises" are exposed by giving examples? That would mean exmaples should be posted. What you posted was the first and only example I have ever seen on this board in relation to name calling.
 
Just a quick question. Do you normally call people by their middle names or are you trying to establish a link between Barack and Saddam? Just curious because you seem to call everyone else by their First name. I haven't seen you yet refer to Bush as Walker Bush.

Most other people don't have a controversial disgusting name like Hussein or Hitler.........You lefties better be careful what you wish for............You just might get it......
 
Most other people don't have a controversial disgusting name like Hussein or Hitler.........You lefties better be careful what you wish for............You just might get it......

So because Obama has the middle name of Hussein and there was a dictator with the last name of Hussein, Obama must also be a dictator?
 
That's because it WAS racist the way you phrased it.

"White pride" organizations that aren't racist simply do not exist.

"Black pride" organizations can mean a wide variety of things...anything from truly racist organizations, to organizations committed to eliminating racism, to organizations committed to helping Africa, to organizations merely interested in celebrating their culture.

Double standard? Deal with it. "White pride" has a very specific meaning in our society, and it's not a good thing.

I just realized something, and I'm not being sarcastic or anything, but did anyone ever consider that the true white pride people who are regular normal nice people and just like the white culture are too afraid of being labeled rascists to actually make a group or anything? Remember White-based anything is frowned on around America, and probably those people just wanted equal recignition, not controversy so they simple keep quiet...

Just another angle...
 
I just realized something, and I'm not being sarcastic or anything, but did anyone ever consider that the true white pride people who are regular normal nice people and just like the white culture are too afraid of being labeled rascists to actually make a group or anything? Remember White-based anything is frowned on around America, and probably those people just wanted equal recignition, not controversy so they simple keep quiet...

Just another angle...

That may be the case, but the white pride organizations that HAVE been formed are ALL racist. I don't know a single exception to this rule. The same cannot be said of all black pride organizations; plenty of them exist that don't hate the white man or anything like that.
 
HRC the uniter

Yet more FUD(fear, uncertainty, and doubt) from the political arena.

It's funny how many anti-Clinton types have taken it upon themselves act as a servants of (ostensibly) Hillary Clinton's political machine by propagating these sorts of silliness.

HRC the uniter
 
What the heck does:

Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
mean?

This is also interesteing:

A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.

This tidbit is very socialist:

The fortunate who are among us combine forces with the less fortunate to become agents of change for God who is not pleased with America’s economic mal-distribution

Anyway from what I understand Barak was married at that church but he is member of this church

About the United Church of Christ

whose website is way more diverse.

Still all interesting none the less.

<edit> well after more research it isn't at all clear. Seems in most interviews Barack has said his faith and church are the UCC but the trinity church may just be a member of the UCC, hard to tell. Perhaps the trinity church is the closest UCC in his neighborhood? I don't know but I wouldn't elect him anyway so it matters not.
 
So because Obama has the middle name of Hussein and there was a dictator with the last name of Hussein, Obama must also be a dictator?


Not at all but he might be someone sympathetic to the terrorist agenda......
 
Not at all but he might be someone sympathetic to the terrorist agenda......

That makes no god damned sense at all. Why would his middle name make him more sympathetic to "the terrorist agenda"? Presumably, he didn't pick his middle name himself, and he's had it since before anyone had ever heard of Saddam Hussein.
 
That makes no god damned sense at all. Why would his middle name make him more sympathetic to "the terrorist agenda"? Presumably, he didn't pick his middle name himself, and he's had it since before anyone had ever heard of Saddam Hussein.

Just ignore it, he's paranoid.
 
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