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IRS Rule Leads Restaurants to Rethink Automatic Tips

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When it comes to my tipping, it actually shortchanges the waitress to add in the automatic tip. I won't add more if they put it in, but when it is not there, I usually tip more than 15%
 

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Back when I waited tables, the restaurant I worked in left it to the servers discretion. I often didn't add in the tip and most of the time I did much better. However there were times when I waited on a party of 25 with a bill in excess of $600 which my entire section for the night where I was handed a $20 bill and told "Thank you so much....you did a terrific job". I think some people just don't understand tipping etiquette when it comes to large groups. $20 might seem like a good tip to someone who normally only eats out in a group of 2-3 and leaves $5.
 

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Back when I waited tables, the restaurant I worked in left it to the servers discretion. I often didn't add in the tip and most of the time I did much better. However there were times when I waited on a party of 25 with a bill in excess of $600 which my entire section for the night where I was handed a $20 bill and told "Thank you so much....you did a terrific job". I think some people just don't understand tipping etiquette when it comes to large groups. $20 might seem like a good tip to someone who normally only eats out in a group of 2-3 and leaves $5.
This is something that sort of annoys me though I do not run into as often as I did when I was in college. As far as I am concerned, if somebody is picking up the tab for your meal, you better make sure there is money out of your pocket on the table for a tip. I had it out one time when the people I was with were totally screwing the waitress on the tip after I had picked up the check under the "I'll get the bill, you guys get the tip" thing and I ended up putting a heck of a lot more down for the waitress than they did, and then they tried to pick their money back up off the table because they felt I had given the waitress too much. If you have 6-8 people sucking up a station for 2 hours, 10% doesn't cut it.
 

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next step should be to stop exempting them from paying minimum wage. if i wanted to tip the owner, i would. i'm tipping for good service, not to subsidize the base salary.
 

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This is something that sort of annoys me though I do not run into as often as I did when I was in college. As far as I am concerned, if somebody is picking up the tab for your meal, you better make sure there is money out of your pocket on the table for a tip. I had it out one time when the people I was with were totally screwing the waitress on the tip after I had picked up the check under the "I'll get the bill, you guys get the tip" thing and I ended up putting a heck of a lot more down for the waitress than they did, and then they tried to pick their money back up off the table because they felt I had given the waitress too much. If you have 6-8 people sucking up a station for 2 hours, 10% doesn't cut it.
I've had similar situations where someone picks up the check....I offer to leave the tip and they say no and I notice a less than 10% tip.....I always try to find a way to sneak more money onto the table but sometimes its difficult.
 

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Back when I waited tables, the restaurant I worked in left it to the servers discretion. I often didn't add in the tip and most of the time I did much better. However there were times when I waited on a party of 25 with a bill in excess of $600 which my entire section for the night where I was handed a $20 bill and told "Thank you so much....you did a terrific job". I think some people just don't understand tipping etiquette when it comes to large groups. $20 might seem like a good tip to someone who normally only eats out in a group of 2-3 and leaves $5.
I had what was supposed to be a party of 25, turned out to be a party of 5 that showed up 45 minutes late. I got the same "Thank you so much...you did a terrific job." Even a "God bless you." The lady who paid gave me a dollar...

That said, I also generally did much better without the gratuity added.
 

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I've had similar situations where someone picks up the check....I offer to leave the tip and they say no and I notice a less than 10% tip.....I always try to find a way to sneak more money onto the table but sometimes its difficult.
Yeah I tend not to be discreet. I'll throw the money down and call them a cheap bastard to their faces, in a polite way of course.
 

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I hate the entire notion of tipping. Pay servers a living wage, charge us what the food is worth, and forget tips altogether.
 

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I've had similar situations where someone picks up the check....I offer to leave the tip and they say no and I notice a less than 10% tip.....I always try to find a way to sneak more money onto the table but sometimes its difficult.
I've done that before as well. More than once.

But, I still resent the idea of the tip being mandatory. At that point it really is nothing more than a surcharge. And I'm like Fisher... if they have the nerve to tell me what the percentage will be, I will pay it, but not a cent more. Not even if they deserve it.
 

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I've done that before as well. More than once.

But, I still resent the idea of the tip being mandatory. At that point it really is nothing more than a surcharge. And I'm like Fisher... if they have the nerve to tell me what the percentage will be, I will pay it, but not a cent more. Not even if they deserve it.
I'm kinda the same. I generally always tip 20%, having been a server for many years....but when the tip is added in, unless they were extraordinary, I generally say...ah too bad for you because you would have gotten more.
 

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hate the practice of tipping.

If I order more expensive food, the wait staff does no more work then if I ordered a cheaper item.

the percentage tip thing is a stupid way to do it.
 
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