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IRS inspector general ‘personally’ blocked info on targeting of left-leaning groups

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Treasury Inspector General J. Russell George prevented the release of documents proving the IRS treated left-leaning groups the same way it treated tea party groups, acting IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel testified on Wednesday.

“We were imminently going to produce a document in an unredacted form that would indicate the identity of a grouping of entities that we felt were similar in a kind of scope as tea party — in terms of its grouping — so that it wouldn’t be able, you wouldn’t be able to identify a particular taxpayer because the grouping name was so broad,” he said. “And, he reached out when he learned that we were about to produce this information and expressed concern and indicated a disagreement with our internal experts on whether that information was 6103-protected or not.”

The IRS was prepared to provide the document to the House Oversight Committee, which is investigating IRS misconduct. But George personally called Werfel and claimed that releasing the document would violate taxpayer confidentiality laws. Section 6103 of the tax code prohibits the IRS from revealing specific information about taxpayers, but Werfel said no such information would be disclosed.

IRS inspector general ‘personally’ blocked info on targeting of left-leaning groups | The Raw Story

Looks like the GOP narrative has blown up in their faces and the investigation will now be about the George/Issa conspiracy to misled Congress. This is beautiful.
 
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Hey hey, look who's back. Yeehaw!!! :lol:
 
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What ever happened to those RW nut scandals that were going to bring down the president? Oh yea, they were pretty much just made up.
 
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This "scandal" was dead in may.
 
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This "scandal" was dead in may.
William Wilkins wishes that was true. Carter Hull fingered him as the source of his direction. Willy works for- gasp! - Obama. Uh oh. Better put a whole lot more grease on the spin machine now.
 
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William Wilkins wishes that was true. Carter Hull fingered him as the source of his direction. Willy works for- gasp! - Obama. Uh oh. Better put a whole lot more grease on the spin machine now.
Pshhh this isnt a scandal. This is the IRS doing its job. The real scandal is the bill that allows this status for these organizations.
 
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Pshhh this isnt a scandal. This is the IRS doing its job. The real scandal is the bill that allows this status for these organizations.
Pssst. I won't tell anybody. I promise. In the meantime, we're going to have us a scandal that looks more and more like the WH is involved. Again, I do promise to keep a lid on the real scandal until you decide to light the fuse. Just let me know when.
 
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Pshhh this isnt a scandal. This is the IRS doing its job. The real scandal is the bill that allows this status for these organizations.
It wasn't a bill. It was the Supreme Court when they ruled in the Citizens United case.


Actually, it was a combination of that ruling and the fact that the IRS, for years, has allowed groups to file 501c4 as long as their "primary" activity was not political. "Primary" being defined as 51% or more.
 
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It wasn't a bill. It was the Supreme Court when they ruled in the Citizens United case.

Pretty sure the IRS itself changed the wording which allows these groups to be involved in politics. In the fifties, iirc.

CU just unleashed the hounds.
 
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It wasn't a bill. It was the Supreme Court when they ruled in the Citizens United case.
Well saying the Supreme Court ruled on a bill.. Im not gonna get involved in deep technicals here.


Actually, it was a combination of that ruling and the fact that the IRS, for years, has allowed groups to file 501c4 as long as their "primary" activity was not political. "Primary" being defined as 51% or more.
Which is kinda ridiculous dont you think
 
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Pssst. I won't tell anybody. I promise. In the meantime, we're going to have us a scandal that looks more and more like the WH is involved. Again, I do promise to keep a lid on the real scandal until you decide to light the fuse. Just let me know when.

:lamo
Yes the White House blocking groups that would be beneficial to the White House.. Good one
 
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Well saying the Supreme Court ruled on a bill.. Im not gonna get involved in deep technicals here.
the Supreme court didn't rule on a bill, they ruled on a lawsuit. Kind of like Roe vs. Wade


Which is kinda ridiculous dont you think
It wound up that way but it didn't start out that way. Way back when, 501c4 status was reserved for groups who's activity was "exclusively" community service. At some point in time they backed off the "exclusively" definition to allow for ancillary activities. This eventually gave way to "primarily" and finally they just decided to define "primary" as 51% or more. They really did bring this upon themselves by setting up a slippery slope. Citizens United turned that slope into an avalanche.
 
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the Supreme court didn't rule on a bill, they ruled on a lawsuit. Kind of like Roe vs. Wade
Yes i realize this. In relation to a bill...




It wound up that way but it didn't start out that way. Way back when, 501c4 status was reserved for groups who's activity was "exclusively" community service. At some point in time they backed off the "exclusively" definition to allow for ancillary activities. This eventually gave way to "primarily" and finally they just decided to define "primary" as 51% or more. They really did bring this upon themselves by setting up a slippery slope. Citizens United turned that slope into an avalanche.

Yes i realize.
 
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What ever happened to those RW nut scandals that were going to bring down the president? Oh yea, they were pretty much just made up.

The funny thing is it's utterly backfired, and suddenly George and his relationship to Issa is front and center.

Investigate that Issa!
 
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William Wilkins wishes that was true. Carter Hull fingered him as the source of his direction. Willy works for- gasp! - Obama. Uh oh. Better put a whole lot more grease on the spin machine now.

So the direction was to target Occupy Wall Street and progressive groups to benefit Obama.

The conspiracy thickens, just like conservative skulls.
 
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The funny thing is it's utterly backfired, and suddenly George and his relationship to Issa is front and center.

Investigate that Issa!

How many lefty bolo groups were flagged ... what were they ... how were they treated after being identified
 
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How many lefty bolo groups were flagged ... what were they ... how were they treated after being identified

Read the link. George has some 'splanin' to do.

What this really shows is how Obama and the Democrats should have immediately realized this was a bogus GOP dirty trick, and instead of showing "outrage" struck back and accused George and Issa of colluding. Which of course has proved to be true.

That's how you win public debates in politics. You have to assume the GOP is lying and go from there.
 
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Raw Story makes Kieth Olbermann look like a card carrying member of the Heritage Foundation, too.
 
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IRS inspector general ‘personally’ blocked info on targeting of left-leaning groups | The Raw Story

Looks like the GOP narrative has blown up in their faces and the investigation will now be about the George/Issa conspiracy to misled Congress. This is beautiful.



Beautiful if you like half truth and lies.

IRS watchdog 'disturbed' agency withheld documents - US News and World Report
 
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So the direction was to target Occupy Wall Street and progressive groups to benefit Obama.

The conspiracy thickens, just like conservative skulls.
Your narrative doesn't fly anymore. The abuse unravels, it travels up the chain of supervision, and your defense has evolved with every step, and it's been disproven at every turn. We now have proof of WH involvement. The journey from Cincinnati to DC is being fueled with truth, and your protestations only make the truth smell sweeter.
 
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"It was Maryland's Rep. Elijah Cummings, the panel's ranking Democrat, who, absurdly, asked Ms. Hofacre if the White House called the Cincinnati office to tell them what to do and whether she has knowledge of the president of the United States digging through the tax returns of citizens. Ms. Hofacre looked surprised. No, she replied.

It wasn't hard to imagine her thought bubble: Do congressmen think presidents call people like me and say, "Don't forget to harass my enemies"? Are congressmen that stupid?

Mr. Cummings is not, and his seeming desperation is telling. Recent congressional information leads to Washington—and now to very high up at the IRS. Meaning this is the point at which a scandal goes nowhere or, maybe, everywhere.

Rep. Trey Gowdy, a South Carolina Republican, finally woke the proceedings up with what he called "the evolution of the defense" since the scandal began. First, Ms. Lerner planted a question at a conference. Then she said the Cincinnati office did it—a narrative that was advanced by the president's spokesman, Jay Carney. Then came the suggestion the IRS was too badly managed to pull off a sophisticated conspiracy. Then the charge that liberal groups were targeted too—"we did it against both ends of the political spectrum." When the inspector general of the IRS said no, it was conservative groups that were targeted, he came under attack. Now the defense is that the White House wasn't involved, so case closed."

A Bombshell in the IRS Scandal - WSJ.com
 
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Your narrative doesn't fly anymore. The abuse unravels, it travels up the chain of supervision, and your defense has evolved with every step, and it's been disproven at every turn. We now have proof of WH involvement. The journey from Cincinnati to DC is being fueled with truth, and your protestations only make the truth smell sweeter.

After the grilling George took yesterday, don't count on it. The Democrats should begin obstruction of justice proceedings against him and force Issa to explain under oath his involvement in the false report.
 
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