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nogoodname

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I have 2 questions.

How many total Iraqis died under Saddam?
How many total Iraqis died under US and agressors?
 
nogoodname said:
I have 2 questions.

How many total Iraqis died under Saddam?
How many total Iraqis died under US and agressors?

U.S. and agressors?

Saddam murdered thosands of his own people. The U.S. and the brits haven't done anything of the sort. 99% of the deaths in Iraq are caused by terrorist-insurgent ISLAMIC MILITANT SCUMBAGS and the other 1% are accidental.
 
nogoodname said:
I have 2 questions.

How many total Iraqis died under Saddam?
How many total Iraqis died under US and agressors?

Saddam is reported have killed over 600 thousand Iraqi civilians
His war with Iran cost another 1 million lives.

I'm not sure about the Iraq war numbers but I'm sure it’s nowhere near 1.6 million.

Anything else nogoodname?
 
cherokee said:
Saddam is reported have killed over 600 thousand Iraqi civilians
His war with Iran cost another 1 million lives.

I'm not sure about the Iraq war numbers but I'm sure it’s nowhere near 1.6 million.

Anything else nogoodname?

ooooooooraaaaaaaah!!!

:2razz:
 
cherokee said:
Saddam is reported have killed over 600 thousand Iraqi civilians
His war with Iran cost another 1 million lives.

I'm not sure about the Iraq war numbers but I'm sure it’s nowhere near 1.6 million.

Anything else nogoodname?
How did he cost 1million lives in the war with iran isnt it a war?

Another thing WHY did we give wepons to Saddam in the first place?
(i know its cuase of Kowait and Iran but still WHY!?)
 
nogoodname]How did he cost 1million lives in the war with iran isnt it a war?

Iran/Iraq war lasted some 8 years
Another thing WHY did we give wepons to Saddam in the first place?
(i know its cuase of Kowait and Iran but still WHY!?)

He was at war with Iran...Plus we didnt give him that much
if you remember his tanks were Russian T-72's I think...?
 
cherokee said:
Iran/Iraq war lasted some 8 years


He was at war with Iran...Plus we didnt give him that much
if you remember his tanks were Russian T-72's I think...?
Ya but thats like funding hitler or osama bin ladin! Oh wait Bush funded Osama Bin Ladins family?:shock:
 
I think your questions have been answered honestly and accurately. Your continued disagreement with the answers you have been given show that your questions were not made in good faith...they were agenda driven. Having noticed that many of your posts aim at disparaging the US and Israel, I would guess that your agenda is to attempt to bait others into an argument by doing this, here.

So here's my question. If you don't want to really hear the answers to the questions that you ask, why ask them?
 
nogoodname said:
Ya but thats like funding hitler or osama bin ladin! Oh wait Bush funded Osama Bin Ladins family?:shock:
The US funded Stalin. Do you have a problem with that? If not, then why would you have a problem with us funding Saddam or OBL?
 
nogoodname said:
Ya but thats like funding hitler or osama bin ladin! Oh wait Bush funded Osama Bin Ladins family?:shock:


We helped the Afghans get the Russians out and we helped Saddam with his war on Iran.

Now how did the US fund osama bin lackey's family?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I think your questions have been answered honestly and accurately. Your continued disagreement with the answers you have been given show that your questions were not made in good faith...they were agenda driven. Having noticed that many of your posts aim at disparaging the US and Israel, I would guess that your agenda is to attempt to bait others into an argument by doing this, here.

So here's my question. If you don't want to really hear the answers to the questions that you ask, why ask them?
Know i asked them cause i wanted anwsers but he I was saying that we gave it only for Iran and i thought it was for Kuwait. I was only making a post about how we pretty much funded a guy like Hitler.
 
cherokee said:
We helped the Afghans get the Russians out and we helped Saddam with his war on Iran.

Now how did the US fund osama bin lackey's family?
Dosnt Bushs family deal with members of the AQ family in Bussiness?
 
mpg said:
The US funded Stalin. Do you have a problem with that? If not, then why would you have a problem with us funding Saddam or OBL?
i have a problem because they all are or were evil people. But then again we didn't know they were evil but i would suspect we would be more cautious on who we give our money to.
 
nogoodname said:
i have a problem because they all are or were evil people. But then again we didn't know they were evil but i would suspect we would be more cautious on who we give our money to.
We knew they were evil, but funding Stalin made sense because Hitler was worse. The circumstances were very similar for Saddam and OBL.
 
nogoodname said:
I have 2 questions.

How many total Iraqis died under Saddam?
How many total Iraqis died under US and agressors?

The number killed under Saddam is in the hundreds of thousands.
Read about the Anfal Campaign in which about 400,000 Kurds were killed by Saddam only one year.
http://www.gendercide.org/case_anfal.html
Thousands more were killed in later years.

It is said about 50,000 Iraqi's have died since the US lead invasion. But the number can't be looked at as being all America's and our Allies fault. Whenever you hear a news story like "A bomb explodes in a busy market killing 30 in Baghdad" those deaths are added to the number.

nogoodname said:
Another thing WHY did we give wepons to Saddam in the first place?
(i know its cuase of Kowait and Iran but still WHY!?)

We gave Saddam weapons because he was at war with Iran. Our hostages were being held there at the US embassy, it seemed like the easiest way at the time to fight Iran without getting actually involved in a war.
Also, ever heard of "Enemy of my enemy is my friend"?
We've used that term several times, we've supported several countries and people who would later become out enemies:

-Stalin-sent billions in War materiel during WWII

-Ho Chi Minh-We game him and his Viet Minh supplies to help fight off the invading Japanese during WWII, we also airlifted him out of Vietnam in 1945 to save his life because he was very sick and about to die.

-Osama Bin Laden-We provided him with weapons in Afghanistan to help fight off the Soviet Union.

-Saddam-Was at war with Iran, us providing Saddam with weapons helped make Iran want to solve the hostage crisis sooner.

________________

Also, it's not like America was the only country to give Saddam weapons or help him make weapons.
Germany, France, Spain, Italy and Great Britian all played a part in giving him weapons, and even building factories for him, France even helped Saddam build a Nuclear reactor which was bombed by Israel in 1981.[/quote]

nogoodname said:
Ya but thats like funding hitler or osama bin ladin! Oh wait Bush funded Osama Bin Ladins family?
Do you not realize that the Bin Laden family has dis-owned Osama, and do not support his terrorist activities in any way? It's rediculous to just assume that because one member of a family is one way, that the rest of the family is exactly the same.

And it's nothing like funding Hitler, geez, have you ever been friends with someone, but eventually become enemies? I know it sounds funny, but that can happen between countries too! AHHHHHH!! Saddam was our ally back then, we gave him these weapons before he began is genocide programs in Kurdistan.

nogooname said:
Dosnt Bushs family deal with members of the AQ family in Bussiness?
Yes, along with several other politicians and American people. And like I said before, the Bin Laden Family DOES NOT support Osama in any way, they've disowned him...

nogoodname said:
i have a problem because they all are or were evil people. But then again we didn't know they were evil but i would suspect we would be more cautious on who we give our money to.
We have given these people money to prevent America from having to enter another armed conflict, they were our allies at the time and turned on us, it has happened before, it's not anything new.
 
One might notice that Iraq's military was made up almost entirely of Soviet equipment.

That is, if one took an honest look.
 
Harshaw said:
One might notice that Iraq's military was made up almost entirely of Soviet equipment.

That is, if one took an honest look.


Tried that they wont listen.........:roll:

maybe if one said it was Russian tanks sold to Saddam by the US?....:mrgreen:
 
Harshaw said:
One might notice that Iraq's military was made up almost entirely of Soviet equipment.

That is, if one took an honest look.

And how would that be unlike the militaries of 9 out of 10 nations on earth?

I am not sure what your point is there, Russia has been selling off its old Soviet arms since the Soviet Union fell.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
And how would that be unlike the militaries of 9 out of 10 nations on earth?

I am not sure what your point is there, Russia has been selling off its old Soviet arms since the Soviet Union fell.

Long before the Soviet Union fell, the Soviets were a leading arms merchant to the world, especially to those client states in the ME, Africa, South America, and Southeast Asia, including Egypt, Syria, Iran, et al. There were basically two distinct camps: Soviet client states and those supported by the US. During the most previous Arab-Israeli conflicts, for example, it has been almost all US made equipment being employed by the Israelis against an almost totally Soviet equipped group of Arab countries. In more recent years, the Israelis have developed a lot of their own military hardware, while the Arab countries and Iran have purchased a considerable portion of their hardware from China and North Korea.

Since detente and the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Russia has tried to continue to be a major arms merchant (as witness its sales of advanced weapons to Iraq and Iran in recent years, and more recently to Venezuela), but with somewhat less success (relatively speaking).
 
Unfit4Command said:
The number killed under Saddam is in the hundreds of thousands.
Read about the Anfal Campaign in which about 400,000 Kurds were killed by Saddam only one year.
http://www.gendercide.org/case_anfal.html
Thousands more were killed in later years.

It is said about 50,000 Iraqi's have died since the US lead invasion. But the number can't be looked at as being all America's and our Allies fault. Whenever you hear a news story like "A bomb explodes in a busy market killing 30 in Baghdad" those deaths are added to the number.



We gave Saddam weapons because he was at war with Iran. Our hostages were being held there at the US embassy, it seemed like the easiest way at the time to fight Iran without getting actually involved in a war.
Also, ever heard of "Enemy of my enemy is my friend"?
We've used that term several times, we've supported several countries and people who would later become out enemies:

-Stalin-sent billions in War materiel during WWII

-Ho Chi Minh-We game him and his Viet Minh supplies to help fight off the invading Japanese during WWII, we also airlifted him out of Vietnam in 1945 to save his life because he was very sick and about to die.

-Osama Bin Laden-We provided him with weapons in Afghanistan to help fight off the Soviet Union.

-Saddam-Was at war with Iran, us providing Saddam with weapons helped make Iran want to solve the hostage crisis sooner.

________________

Also, it's not like America was the only country to give Saddam weapons or help him make weapons.
Germany, France, Spain, Italy and Great Britian all played a part in giving him weapons, and even building factories for him, France even helped Saddam build a Nuclear reactor which was bombed by Israel in 1981.


Do you not realize that the Bin Laden family has dis-owned Osama, and do not support his terrorist activities in any way? It's rediculous to just assume that because one member of a family is one way, that the rest of the family is exactly the same.

And it's nothing like funding Hitler, geez, have you ever been friends with someone, but eventually become enemies? I know it sounds funny, but that can happen between countries too! AHHHHHH!! Saddam was our ally back then, we gave him these weapons before he began is genocide programs in Kurdistan.


Yes, along with several other politicians and American people. And like I said before, the Bin Laden Family DOES NOT support Osama in any way, they've disowned him...


We have given these people money to prevent America from having to enter another armed conflict, they were our allies at the time and turned on us, it has happened before, it's not anything new.[/QUOTE]
ty :D
 
nogoodname said:
Do you not realize that the Bin Laden family has dis-owned Osama, and do not support his terrorist activities in any way? It's rediculous to just assume that because one member of a family is one way, that the rest of the family is exactly the same.
Everyone realizes that except for Michael Moore and his fans.
 

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