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Iran's Guards launch aircraft carrier-scale warship amid tensions with U.S.: TV

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DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards have added a warship capable of carrying aircraft, missile launchers and drones to its naval fleet, state media said on Thursday, at a time of high tension between Tehran and Washington.

Apparently Iran has mounted missiles and helicopter landing pads on a 150 meter cargo ship.....though, unless Iran has developed or acquired VTOL capable fighter jets, it would be far more accurate to describe this as a "Helicarrier" of sorts.

US Aircraft Carriers tend to be in the realm of 300 plus meters, and Amphibious Assault/ Helicopter carriers ( Wasp Class) about 250 plus meters.
 

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DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards have added a warship capable of carrying aircraft, missile launchers and drones to its naval fleet, state media said on Thursday, at a time of high tension between Tehran and Washington.

Apparently Iran has mounted missiles and helicopter landing pads on a 150 meter cargo ship.....though, unless Iran has developed or acquired VTOL capable fighter jets, it would be far more accurate to describe this as a "Helicarrier" of sorts.

US Aircraft Carriers tend to be in the realm of 300 plus meters, and Amphibious Assault/ Helicopter carriers ( Wasp Class) about 250 plus meters.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Its a small cargo ship with a helipad on it.

AP News - Iran's Revolutionary Guard Launches Air-craft Carrying Warship

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DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards have added a warship capable of carrying aircraft, missile launchers and drones to its naval fleet, state media said on Thursday, at a time of high tension between Tehran and Washington.

Apparently Iran has mounted missiles and helicopter landing pads on a 150 meter cargo ship.....though, unless Iran has developed or acquired VTOL capable fighter jets, it would be far more accurate to describe this as a "Helicarrier" of sorts.

US Aircraft Carriers tend to be in the realm of 300 plus meters, and Amphibious Assault/ Helicopter carriers ( Wasp Class) about 250 plus meters.
From the article title, one would have indeed thought that the Iranian Regime had procured or developed a nascent carrier. Perhaps even something to launch sophisticated drones from. This looks like a bad joke.
 

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Is anyone seriously calling this a warship? Bet that has the Pentagon shaking.
Hey - if it has weapons, it's a warship. And frankly, it's very smart. Old freighters are a dime-a-dozen, so retrofitting them as floating weapons platforms is cheap. They don't have sophisticated systems, so not much crew training is involved. It makes more sense than spending billions on designing and building a modern warship that we could blow out of the water relatively easily. Not much of a loss to them if we sink one of these. They can probably outfit and man a dozen of these for less than it costs us to build one carrier - and in a fraction of the time.
 

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DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards have added a warship capable of carrying aircraft, missile launchers and drones to its naval fleet, state media said on Thursday, at a time of high tension between Tehran and Washington.

Apparently Iran has mounted missiles and helicopter landing pads on a 150 meter cargo ship.....though, unless Iran has developed or acquired VTOL capable fighter jets, it would be far more accurate to describe this as a "Helicarrier" of sorts.

US Aircraft Carriers tend to be in the realm of 300 plus meters, and Amphibious Assault/ Helicopter carriers ( Wasp Class) about 250 plus meters.
Not to mention all the support ships and aircraft around a carrier, they would stand a chance in hell of getting anywhere near being able to hit a carrier. I know countries like to rattle their swords and show how tough they are, problem is when they take that too far with the Biggest Super Power on the Planet, it never works out for any that tried.
 

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Hey - if it has weapons, it's a warship. And frankly, it's very smart. Old freighters are a dime-a-dozen, so retrofitting them as floating weapons platforms is cheap. They don't have sophisticated systems, so not much crew training is involved. It makes more sense than spending billions on designing and building a modern warship that we could blow out of the water relatively easily. Not much of a loss to them if we sink one of these. They can probably outfit and man a dozen of these for less than it costs us to build one carrier - and in a fraction of the time.
Sink are even damage a US Carrier and it won't be some cargo ship that will be the main target, though they would be swept from the Seas very quickly. No the target would be the country of Iran, and that will be that for their theocracy, dead and buried. They lost to Iraq and look what the US did to them, fantasy and reality are often very different worlds.
 

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Sink are even damage a US Carrier and it won't be some cargo ship that will be the main target, though they would be swept from the Seas very quickly. No the target would be the country of Iran, and that will be that for their theocracy, dead and buried. They lost to Iraq and look what the US did to them, fantasy and reality are often very different worlds.
They never lost to Iraq, and even with the US supplying weapons and intelligence to Saddam's regime. Besides, these freighters aren't first-strike weapons. They're just meant to patrol the Persian Gulf and respond if we start something.
 

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They never lost to Iraq, and even with the US supplying weapons and intelligence to Saddam's regime. Besides, these freighters aren't first-strike weapons. They're just meant to patrol the Persian Gulf and respond if we start something.
If we start something, we won't, the seas would be immediately swept clean, period.
 

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That doesn't change any of their motivations. Look at it from their perspective.
I have, and what they need to do is not be stupid and simply wait for trump to be gone then work out a new deal with the USA. As I said, nothing they do could ever protect them if the USA came after them, why waste time and money on this sort of nonsense, just worthless
 

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I have, and what they need to do is not be stupid and simply wait for trump to be gone then work out a new deal with the USA. As I said, nothing they do could ever protect them if the USA came after them, why waste time and money on this sort of nonsense, just worthless
I guess you're admitting to just being incapable of looking at it from their perspective. ??!! No less of what they do is to satisfy their own internal politics. It doesn't have to make sense to us if it makes sense to them.

Unlike Americans, everyone in Iran knows the history of their own country, and America's efforts to overthrow their duly elected democracy and install the Pahlevi Monarchy. We have an army on their Eastern border, an army on their Western border, never less than one carrier fleet in their gulf, and we declared them part of the "axis of evil". Anyone who thinks they don't have every right to do everything to defend themselves is merely a naive idiot. Taken from the Persian perspective, not only do they have every right to try to obtain nuclear weapons, under the circumstances I just described, they'd be fools not to !!
 

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Hey - if it has weapons, it's a warship. And frankly, it's very smart. Old freighters are a dime-a-dozen, so retrofitting them as floating weapons platforms is cheap. They don't have sophisticated systems, so not much crew training is involved. It makes more sense than spending billions on designing and building a modern warship that we could blow out of the water relatively easily. Not much of a loss to them if we sink one of these. They can probably outfit and man a dozen of these for less than it costs us to build one carrier - and in a fraction of the time.
Are you serious? This thing would be nothing but a metal coffin in a battle. It would not last 2 minutes. Warships are made to be able to sustain damage and still function. This is like strapping a mortar on a Kia and calling it a tank.
 

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Are you serious? This thing would be nothing but a metal coffin in a battle. It would not last 2 minutes. Warships are made to be able to sustain damage and still function. This is like strapping a mortar on a Kia and calling it a tank.
Apparently he has never heard of "Operation Praying Mantis" and "Nimble Archer".....that fiasco didnt end well for the Iranians when they decided to start laying mines in the shipping lanes of the Persian Gulf back in the late 80's.

They ended up losing 1 frigate sunk ( which was a dedicated warship with far more fire power than this converted cargo ship) ,1 gunboat sunk ,3 speedboats sunk , 1 frigate crippled ( same class as the one sunk) , 2 armed oil platforms destroyed, 1 fighter damaged , and over 50 Iranian sailors killed, in addition to a Captured Iranian mine layer that was eventually scuttled by the US Navy after they were caught with the mines they were laying.
 

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I have, and what they need to do is not be stupid and simply wait for trump to be gone then work out a new deal with the USA. As I said, nothing they do could ever protect them if the USA came after them, why waste time and money on this sort of nonsense, just worthless
Lol... why would they need a deal with the US? China is selling them weapons at breakneck speeds and most of the sanctions have evaporated.
 

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Sink are even damage a US Carrier and it won't be some cargo ship that will be the main target, though they would be swept from the Seas very quickly. No the target would be the country of Iran, and that will be that for their theocracy, dead and buried. They lost to Iraq and look what the US did to them, fantasy and reality are often very different worlds.
The country of Iran is probably the single most defensible piece of land in the modern world. Sure we would win but the cost in lives and money would be significant just for a regime change.
 

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Apparently he has never heard of "Operation Praying Mantis" and "Nimble Archer".....that fiasco didnt end well for the Iranians when they decided to start laying mines in the shipping lanes of the Persian Gulf back in the late 80's.

They ended up losing 1 frigate sunk ( which was a dedicated warship with far more fire power than this converted cargo ship) ,1 gunboat sunk ,3 speedboats sunk , 1 frigate crippled ( same class as the one sunk) , 2 armed oil platforms destroyed, 1 fighter damaged , and over 50 Iranian sailors killed, in addition to a Captured Iranian mine layer that was eventually scuttled by the US Navy after they were caught with the mines they were laying.
Yeah, and that took less than one day.
 

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The country of Iran is probably the single most defensible piece of land in the modern world. Sure we would win but the cost in lives and money would be significant just for a regime change.
Isn't that what they said about Iraq?
 

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Isn't that what they said about Iraq?
I don't think anyone has ever claimed that Iraq, with it's wide open desert borders and easily constrained populace, is hard to conquer.

Iran on the other hand is filled with mountains and highlands. Much easier to defend.
 
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I don't think anyone has ever claimed that Iraq, with it's wide open desert borders and easily constrained populace, is hard to conquer.

Iran on the other hand is filled with mountains and highlands. Much easier to defend.
Don't want to disillusion you but it takes a lot more than mountains to fight a war. Iran has been invaded and conquered several times.
 

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Don't want to disillusion you but it takes a lot more than mountains to fight a war. Iran has been invaded and conquered several times.
It has, but by very competent and powerful armed forces throughout history, including some of the most capable armies in human history.

But a competent military force could easily exploit Iran's natural defensive barriers to make the country very hard to invade. It would be a much easier task than trying to defend Iraq, which is smaller, less populated, and has a giant highway leading straight up to it's major population areas from the south.

There's also the reality that Iran has an actual national identity, and isn't just a collection of tribes and groups help together by a dictator, like Saddam's Iraq was.
 
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