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Iranian President Ahmadinejad writes to the American people (full transcript) (1 Viewer)

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Iranian President Ahmadinejad writes to the American people
By The Islamic Republic Of Iran (UN Mission)
Updated Nov 29, 2006, 01:05 pm

The Iranian Government has released the full text of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's letter to the American people. The letter was released Wednesday, November 29, 2006 via Iran's Permanent Mission to the United Nations in New York.

According to the Iranian news service, IRIB, a source privy to the Presidential office said the recent visit to New York by the President where he attended the 61st UN General Assembly this past September and met American people from different walks of life, Dr. Ahmadinejad decided to write an open letter to the American nation to further discuss the points raised during those meetings.

The following is the full text of President Ahmadinejad's November 29, 2006 letter addressed to the American people:

Iranian President Ahmadinejad writes to the American people

Read the letter in full by clicking the link, here's a short exerpt:

"What have the Zionists done for the American people that the US administration considers itself obliged to blindly support these infamous aggressors? Is it not because they have imposed themselves on a substantial portion of the banking, financial, cultural and media sectors?"

Thankyou Adolfinejad, what he is saying is that the Jews control the media, Jews have lots of money, and Jews control the banking system. Can anyone still deny that this guy is the modern manifestation of Adolf Hitler? The lessons of WW2 was that politicians sometimes mean exactly what they say but with the latest calls of cutting a deal with Iran it's Neville Chamberlin all over again. Wake up America.
 
I just read this on msnbc.com.I love how he's trying to make nice nice with America or something.It's reall cute.Maybe even cuter cuz it's not freaking working.Their country harbors terrorists and gives them supplies and he knows it.He wants Israel wiped off the map and denie the Holocaust.And then we wants us to take this letter seriously? You're no ally Iran.

“As you know very well, many victims of Katrina continue to suffer, and countless Americans continue to live in poverty and homelessness,” he said.

What..the hell? So that obviously means we HAVE to pull out of Iraq.He doesn't know what he's talking about.

he was now writing to the American people in friendship because Iran and the United States shared a responsibility “to promote and protect freedom and human dignity and integrity.”

Freedom.Dignity.Integrity. 3 words Iran doesn't believe in.
 
This letter should have hit the paper shredder at the UN when it was delivered. I don't see why we should listen to a guy who denies the holocaust and wants to ethnically cleanse his region of the "zionists". I guess he figures Americans are dumb enough to buy his bullshit, and judging by some people that post on DP, he's right. :(
 
"We have to work together guys....oh by theway, you guys made up the holocaust, if it were real more Jews would have been killed.You made up all the records too.We need to project freedom.I'm going to go burn an American flag and send tech. to NK.Oh yeah and I'm also going to give weapons to the insurgents that are killing your soldiers."

This is basically what I can pull from what he's trying to pull now.

Is he serious?
 
Ahmadinejad and the rest of Iran’s leaders need to take a time-out inside a wooden box.................While I bury it....;)
 
If we can impeach our Hitler, arrest him and charge him with war crimes, the least their Hitler could do is acknowledge Israel and denounce terrorism.
 
What all of you so quickly disregard is that we need to keep the lines of dialogue open with Iran.

Unless you're all just itching for another bloody confrontation? Doesn't Halliburton have enough of our tax money?

I'm not saying I support Ahmadinejad, but he by-passed our president by writing this letter and tried to speak directly to the American people.

I see nothing wrong with the attempt.

From what I've read of major news magazines, Ahmad is not the true power anyway...it's the Ayatollahs, or whatever, that are the true rulers.

So, why get upset over someone who is attempting dialogue? Despite his obvious endorsement of terrorism...etc...I prefer dialogue over another usless blood soaked war...and so should the rest of you.
 
Yup.Bush is Hitler.You've sucessfully hit the nail on the head.
 
What all of you so quickly disregard is that we need to keep the lines of dialogue open with Iran.

Unless you're all just itching for another bloody confrontation? Doesn't Halliburton have enough of our tax money?

I'm not saying I support Ahmadinejad, but he by-passed our president by writing this letter and tried to speak directly to the American people.

I see nothing wrong with the attempt.

From what I've read of major news magazines, Ahmad is not the true power anyway...it's the Ayatollahs, or whatever, that are the true rulers.

So, why get upset over someone who is attempting dialogue? Despite his obvious endorsement of terrorism...etc...I prefer dialogue over another usless blood soaked war...and so should the rest of you.

Because if you search around on the internet their are many quotes of him condemning america for this, condemning America for that and then he turns around with a handful of audacity and tries to write a letter to us to toell us what we should be doing? That we should pull out? And then he says that there are other issues we need to work on in our own nation.True, but has the fool looked at his own country? Obviously not. He tried to say that it's the U.S. and Irans job to bring peace and such to the mid. east. Is this before, or after he destroys Israel?.Is this peace before or after he stops helping the insurgents that are killing our own soldiers? It's befause he's a fool that anyone cares to be angered by his little letter.
 
Originally posted by Hoot:
What all of you so quickly disregard is that we need to keep the lines of dialogue open with Iran.

Unless you're all just itching for another bloody confrontation? Doesn't Halliburton have enough of our tax money?

I'm not saying I support Ahmadinejad, but he by-passed our president by writing this letter and tried to speak directly to the American people.

I see nothing wrong with the attempt.

From what I've read of major news magazines, Ahmad is not the true power anyway...it's the Ayatollahs, or whatever, that are the true rulers.

So, why get upset over someone who is attempting dialogue? Despite his obvious endorsement of terrorism...etc...I prefer dialogue over another usless blood soaked war...and so should the rest of you.
I thought what he did was pretty cool. The right thing to do. The problem is my countryman have such an arrogant, inflated opinion about who and what we are, I doubt if we will respond in kind. Plus the fact that we have neocon's in office that are mentally unfit to run any government. As proof, this "my way or the high way" attitude and policy towards other country's. That is not a rational position in this day and age.
 
I saw something on FOX News earlier today that they'd be providing a way for people to directly respond to Ahmadinejad if they want to. But I can't find anything on their website.

Do y'all think it would be a good idea for Americans to respond? Why or why not? I'm planning on responding (if I can find the link to do so on FOX's website). And I think a formal, diplomatic tone would probably be better than "z0MG **** you Hitler!!!" I doubt that Ahmadinejad would personally read the letters, but I hope that someone in his government would do so, especially if they filter out the aforementioned junk responses.
 
Hmmmmmmmmmm......besides Ahmadinejad's letter sounding like liberal dimocrat talking points, it also rings of a similar incident in history of a letter the Sultan of Turkey sent to the Cossacks:

As the Sultan; son of Muhammad; brother of the Sun and Moon; grandson and viceroy of God; ruler of the kingdoms of Macedonia, Babylon, Jerusalem, Upper and Lower Egypt; emperor of emperors; sovereign of sovereigns; extraordinary knight, never defeated; steadfast guardian of the tomb of Jesus Christ; trustee chosen by God himself; the hope and comfort of Muslims; confounder and great defender of Christians—I command you, the Zaporozhian Cossacks, to submit to me voluntarily and without any resistance, and to desist from troubling me with your attacks.

—Turkish Sultan Mehmed IV

I think we can send Ahmadinejad the same message the Zaporozhian Cossacks sent back to the Turkish Sultan.

O sultan, turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with his naked arse? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a b!tch, make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, f**k your mother.

You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-f***er of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, Armenian pig, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding Christian pigs. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!

Koshovyi Otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host

There's even a picture of the Zaporozhians composing the letter.

Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
What all of you so quickly disregard is that we need to keep the lines of dialogue open with Iran.

Unless you're all just itching for another bloody confrontation? Doesn't Halliburton have enough of our tax money?

I'm not saying I support Ahmadinejad, but he by-passed our president by writing this letter and tried to speak directly to the American people.

I see nothing wrong with the attempt.

LMFAO you don't see anything wrong with the content the sheer hypocricy contained within that letter? "Lines of dialogue," ? Give a ****ing break this isn't a dialogue it's a Hitler rant filled conspiracy and double speak blame the victim bullshit.
 
At least he isn't trying buy our poor peoples opinoin like Chavez is.............yet. :roll:
 
This letter was addressed more to the weak Americans amongst us rather than the strong. He did the same thing he did when seeking out Germany and we saw the same thing from Bin laden who wished upon American ignorance to believe his impractical demands were practical. These men would have Americans give their allegiance to tyrants rather than what Americans truly believe in.

From the beginning of his letter…“Both (America and Iran) greatly value and readily embrace the promotion of human ideals such as compassion, empathy, respect for the rights of human beings, securing justice and equity, and defending the innocent and the weak against oppressors and bullies.” Or really? Is this why Iranian women are subjugated and hidden behind veils? Is this why there is such a great percentage of Jews and Christians in Iran? Is this why Iran calls for the destruction of Israel instead of the peaceful existence between Palestinian and Israelis as we do? Is this why the promotion of “human ideals” are restricted to gender and religion and read about through restrictive sources in Iran?

Let’s consider the Middle Eastern situation as a whole. Radical Islamists and the extremely silent moderates believe in that which will continue to keep their women silent and obedient. They believe that anything that counters their fundamental beliefs in “God,” is evil and is punishable by men who choose to appoint themselves as God’s executioners. While people may argue that not all Muslims in the Middle East adhere to religious violence, they cannot deny the sentiments of hate taught to them as infants. Is this what Ahmenadejad wishes to compare to America?

And what about Iraq? Consider the motivations behind the requests. Jordan wishes America to finish Iraq and King Abdul recognizes that a failed Iraq will be devastating to the region. Kuwait urges America to remain in Iraq for the time being, because they recognize the same thing. Of course, Israel hopes for the best, as does America and Britian and Poland, that the best that Iraqis have to offer will soon trump their more violent players. Saudi Arabia wishes for an American withdrawal. As does Syria, Iran, Russia, China, France, and Germany. So….

We have western inspired democracies in America, Britian, and Poland that truly represent their people that are willing to believe that Iraqis can still become successful. Along with this, we have the one true democracy in the Middle East that wishes to co-exist, we have another Muslim country that is encouraging itself to become less of a monarchy and more of a democracy, and another country that simply has the common sense to recognize that true peace in the Middle East will come from a successful Iraq and not a religious monster sponsored Iraq. On the other side, we have a Shi’ite country in Iran that supports the Shi’ite militias in Iraq, we have the “House of Saud” in Saudi Arabia that supports the Sunni insurgency and funds the disease of religious intolerance all over the world, and we have Syria who actively backs up Hezbollah and opens its borders to whomever wishes to wreck Iraq’s chances. China and Russia has fought us the whole way and wish for an American withdrawel in the name of humanity, yet spare no rule of humanity when it comes to their own oppressed people. As for the French and the Germans…….they were awfully silent when “stability for oil” was the silent mantra for Middle Eastern policy. France remains silent as it continues its traditions of colonialism in western Africa. And between them both, they are responsible for the worst bloodsheds across their continents throughout history. It seems to me that the ones that claim to wish for peace in their attempts to get America out of Iraq prematurely don’t practice a whole lot of civil rights amongst their populations and simply have their own religious interests at heart. Others are merely basking in their shame. Those that wish for the success of Iraq are the ones that truly cater to human civil rights, equality, and security. None of this comes without picking up the gun.

The Global left would have us believe that they are the true champions of what is just and virtuous in this world. They are very fond of pointing out mistakes from afar and criticizing from behind secured borders. Isn’t it the Liberal that demands a complete separation between church and state? Isn’t it the Liberal that demands gender equality and for racial togetherness? Isn’t it the Liberal who makes claims of those “evil” Christians that wish to control their lives and stagnate science and progress?

It’s quite an ironic thing to hear the Global Left preach on the very moral things that Conservatives always have the will to act upon. The irony is how the Global Left merely talks and then criticizes the actions of others that try to achieve it. They are even willing to give their allegiances to the powers that pretend to stand for what America stands for, but actually do oppress, corrupt, and abuse humanity.

Ahmenadejad, like Bin Laden, is praying for American stupidity and ignorance to see them other than for what they are. They both are wishing for Americans and the world to see them as men of "dialogue," but underneath their shams they are merely men who wish for the world to give them what they want. If President Bush wrote a letter to the Iranian people that claimed their similarities to us with subtle hints of what America is going to do without question, would the Ahmenadejad supporters clap for Bush's attempt? Ahmenadejad and Bin ladden....one Shi'ite and one Sunni. Both are men of religious oppression and violence at their respective extremes, yet both hate each other's views of Islam. Perhaps if one wasn’t a religious terrorist and the other not a religiously motivated nation destroyer, they could be better trusted with their venomous letters of "dialogue."
 
We have western inspired democracies in America, Britian, and Poland that truly represent their people that are willing to believe that Iraqis can still become successful.
The Polish government did not represent their people when sending troops to Iraq. Actually, a strong majority was against it. Meanwhile they elected a new government and the new government started to withdraw Polish troops from Iraq. Polish troops are scheduled to leave completely in the next five weeks as far as I know.
 
The Polish government did not represent their people when sending troops to Iraq. Actually, a strong majority was against it. Meanwhile they elected a new government and the new government started to withdraw Polish troops from Iraq. Polish troops are scheduled to leave completely in the next five weeks as far as I know.

This has nothing to do with what I said. Do the Poles live in a Democracy where they choose their leaders or don't they?

Simply because a government acts against what their people want on that day or the next doesn't mean that the government doesn't represent their people. Does Spain enjoy a Democracy? Does Italy enjoy a Democracy? Were they not both in Iraq at one time against their people's wishes?

No government chosen by the people will make all the people happy all of the time. Hence, the freedom of voice given to them by governments that do represent their people.
 
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This has nothing to do with what I said. Do the Poles live in a Democracy where they choose their leaders or don't they?

Simply because a government acts against what their people want on that day or the next doesn't mean that the government doesn't represent their people.

No government chosen by the people will make all the people happy all of the time.
Such important questions like going to war should be backed up by public opinion. If the public opinion is very different from what a government does about an important issue, then the government does not represent the people about this issue.
 
Does Spain enjoy a Democracy? Does Italy enjoy a Democracy? Were they not both in Iraq at one time against their people's wishes?
Yes, in both countries, Spain and Italy people elected new governments when they had the chance to do so and the new governments started to withdraw their troops from Iraq.

They should have not been sent there in the first place against the will of their people.
 
Such important questions like going to war should be backed up by public opinion. If the public opinion is very different from what a government does about an important issue, then the government does not represent the people about this issue.

Who said anything about an issue? I made the statement that the Polish government represents their people. The people vote. Period. Why are you arguing something so basic and simple?

Even in America, people only have an official voice once a day every two years. The time between is a matter for the elected.
 
Yes, in both countries, Spain and Italy people elected new governments when they had the chance to do so and the new governments started to withdraw their troops from Iraq.

They should have not been sent there in the first place against the will of their people.


Again...has nothing to do with my statement that both countries have governments that represent their people. The people voted for representation. That representation involved them into the same kind of conflict they have been figintg through history. The people chose against the war in Iraq and voted in accordance at their next opportunity.

Welcome to a government that represents the people.
 
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Who said anything about an issue? I made the statement that the Polish government represents their people. The people vote. Period. Why are you arguing something so basic and simple?

Even in America, people only have an official voice once a day every two years. The time between is a matter for the elected.
This would be a strong representative democratic approach, there is a strong direct democratic approach at the other side of the spectrum. European countries often have a mix of them. In questions of war I would prefer a much stronger direct democratic approach.
 
Again...has nothing to do with my statement that both countries have governments that represent their people.
Meanwhile they have :mrgreen:
 

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