Heya Wiggen :2wave: We have jumped in to help with some refueling of their planes and some Recon. BO is sending some aid to them. That's about as far as he is going to go.
Seems to me that's far enough, M. I don't mind sending logistical support. I'm just tired of our guys getting killed in other people's wars.
Well, I agree with us not getting involved with this conflict.....Let the Iranians/Shia and Sunni face each other. When its done Iran will learn their military isn't anything to be feared and the Sunni will give up once Yemen has the Sunni Government in place again.
I wonder, what we would do, if push comes to shove. Let oil go thru the roof, while the Gulf clobbers itself into indecisive oblivion.
You want the Saudis to help the US with drug cartels in Mexico and South America?
Are the drug cartels as much a threat to them as terrorism is to the US?
Iran has been conducting such patrols since 2008, protecting Iranian shipping.
sure we can. they leave us standing alone all of the time when there are conflicts in the Americas. what are they doing to help us with the drug gangs that have taken over large areas in Mexico?
Russia and maybe China supporting Iran while we support the Saudis. Lots of interested parties here.
Well, I would go with Canada and up our own production. Remove Security off the Saud's transportation and get rid of that fee we pay for protecting what they call their precious.
Think we can undercut them on the bids?
Well, I agree with us not getting involved with this conflict.....Let the Iranians/Shia and Sunni face each other. When its done Iran will learn their military isn't anything to be feared and the Sunni will give up once Yemen has the Sunni Government in place again.
-- Iran would not have dared deploy ships like this if we had a real president. Even conspicuously diverting a single U.S. attack submarine to the waters near Yemen might have made it seem too risky. But the Islamist thugs in Tehran know they have nothing to fear from President Neville.
Drug gangs? Off with their heads!
Do you also support the US selling to KSA the high-tech weapons platforms that they will undoubtedly request in order to facilitate regional stability?that neighborhood is the responsibility of Saudi Arabia, and regional stability is on them.
Simpleχity;1064543279 said:Do you also support the US selling to KSA the high-tech weapons platforms that they will undoubtedly request in order to facilitate regional stability?
Simpleχity;1064543279 said:In other words, do you support relinquishing the US high-tech weapons edge if this results is less direct US involvement? For example, it's no secret that the KSA has its eye on the new F-35.
Simpleχity;1064543279 said:I'm just curious about what trade-offs are acceptable in your view.
Why so angry? Isn't this forum supposed to be an exchange of opinions and viewpoints?why in the **** do you think i support any of this interventionist bull****? are you even paying attention?
Question answered.let them build one, then. we need to build roads, bridges, and new energy infrastructure.
No pigeonhole. Just interested in different viewpoints. Thanks for sharing.i'm curious about which pigeonhole you are trying to stuff me in.
.Bingo.
We've wanted someone to take arms against ISIS in Northern Iraq and Syria and it's only Iran putting serious ground troop numbers in and pushing ISIS back. That's a Sunni/Shia conflict we don't need to get involved in. Same with Yemen - Saudi Arabia vs Iran forms the same Sunni/Shia conflict and if we take sides in this then it hurts efforts elsewhere
Mornin IC. :2wave: ISIS is a different matter.....and one that requires all to participate in. Now you are correct with their Sunni and Shia sectarian divide. Iran is only in Iraq to gain dominance over the country and its government.
The planet is getting tired of the Arabs sectarian conflict that they just can't finish and handle. Maybe it is time to FORCE them to go to war and thus end it for once and all. After its done and over with. Then neither will be much of a concern for any others. Even better is that those left will know they wont be a threat to any others for a very very long time. So they wont be out starting any ****. Nor talking any ****. Its a win win for the planet.
Simpleχity;1064543298 said:Why so angry? Isn't this forum supposed to be an exchange of opinions and viewpoints?
Simpleχity;1064543227 said:
Saudi coalition airstrike yesterday on the Republican Palace in the Yemeni city of Taez
The Saudi coalition has launched over 100 airstrikes in Yemen during the past 24 hours. 21 were killed overnight in fierce fighting in Taez. 3 AQ suspects transporting weapons were killed in a US drone strike in Saeed.
So far, an Iranian convoy of a warship and 8 merchant vessels has not attempted to challenge a UN arms embargo of Yemen.
The U.S. Navy has seven combat ships in the waters around Yemen as the Saudi-led bombing campaign there continues, but U.S. troops are not participating in a Saudi naval blockade in the region, U.S. military officials said Friday.
The American ships include: the destroyers USS Forrest Sherman and USS Winston Churchill; the minesweepers USS Sentry and USS Dextrous; and three amphibious ships carrying about 2,200 Marines, the USS Iwo Jima, the USS New York and the USS Fort McHenry, a Navy official told The Washington Post. The USNS Charles Drew, a dry cargo ship, is also in the region.
cute, but the point is that the Saudis still do nothing to help us police our neighborhood. i'm fine with the US and Saudi Arabia being friendly, but the US should definitely not be expected to act as regional hegemon in the Middle East. that neighborhood is the responsibility of Saudi Arabia, and regional stability is on them.
Heya Matchlight. :2wave: Was there a pic of it being shown? I think we could pick it up and let whoever know where it is at.
Do we have to get involved in every frickin' dispute in the Middle East? Why is this our problem and why is it Barack Obama's job to put American service people in harm's way? To satisfy the egos of the Chicken Hawks?
I got that info from a description--haven't seen any photos. I'm sure the U.S. is tracking any Iranian ships and knows exactly where they are. But I doubt President Neville would want to tick off his soulmates in Tehran by telling any of their enemies.
Bingo.
We've wanted someone to take arms against ISIS in Northern Iraq and Syria and it's only Iran putting serious ground troop numbers in and pushing ISIS back. That's a Sunni/Shia conflict we don't need to get involved in. Same with Yemen - Saudi Arabia vs Iran forms the same Sunni/Shia conflict and if we take sides in this then it hurts efforts elsewhere.
What would a real President do in the case of the Sunni / Shia conflict going on? Do you want US and NATO troops fighting EVERYONE in the middle east? We sink an Iranian ship and they may stop their fighting against ISIS in Iraq and Syria - they're the only nation (apart from the Iraqis and Syrians whose land is being fought over) with troops on the ground fighting ISIS.
No, of course you are right. The world should have learned about 1935 that the best way to deal with aggressive dictatorships is to sit back meekly, and let them do whatever the hell they want.
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