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Iran seeks to become major Mideast player

KidRocks

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Good for Iran!

I hope the United States takes notice that Iran is indeed a major player in the Middle East and gives Iran it's due respect!

Maybe then we will be able to establish a dialog that leads to a lasting peace!







http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060720/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_hezbollah_s_patron

TEHRAN, Iran - Iranian officials often say that places with the greatest troubles offer their country the best opportunities.

Iranian influence in Iraq has surged since the U.S.-led invasion three years ago. Its reach into Afghanistan continues to grow.

And now, the war in Lebanon could make Iran an even more important player in the Islamic world even as its militant Shiite Arab client, Hezbollah, gets pounded by Israel.

"Iran sees itself more than just the moral father of Hezbollah. Iran seeks to become a major force across the region as a counterbalance to America and Israel," said Ahmad Bakhshaiesh, a professor of political studies at Tehran's Azadi University.

"Lebanon is part of this plan," he said.

Already, officials and experts say that for any cease-fire or broader peace package to succeed, Iran's deep ties with Hezbollah must be taken into account.

Hezbollah could emerge from the battles severely weakened militarily, but with its reputation enhanced in the Muslim world for resisting Israel. That in turn would give Iran, a non-Arab country, an even higher profile in the Arab world — a prospect that frightens the Jewish state...
 
Are you a terrorist? :confused:


KidRocks said:
Good for Iran!

I hope the United States takes notice that Iran is indeed a major player in the Middle East and gives Iran it's due respect!

Maybe then we will be able to establish a lasting peace!







http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060720/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_hezbollah_s_patron

TEHRAN, Iran - Iranian officials often say that places with the greatest troubles offer their country the best opportunities.

Iranian influence in Iraq has surged since the U.S.-led invasion three years ago. Its reach into Afghanistan continues to grow.

And now, the war in Lebanon could make Iran an even more important player in the Islamic world even as its militant Shiite Arab client, Hezbollah, gets pounded by Israel.

"Iran sees itself more than just the moral father of Hezbollah. Iran seeks to become a major force across the region as a counterbalance to America and Israel," said Ahmad Bakhshaiesh, a professor of political studies at Tehran's Azadi University.

"Lebanon is part of this plan," he said.

Already, officials and experts say that for any cease-fire or broader peace package to succeed, Iran's deep ties with Hezbollah must be taken into account.

Hezbollah could emerge from the battles severely weakened militarily, but with its reputation enhanced in the Muslim world for resisting Israel. That in turn would give Iran, a non-Arab country, an even higher profile in the Arab world — a prospect that frightens the Jewish state...
 
Vader said:
Are you a terrorist? :confused:


Just trying to save Israel from self-destruction. It seems that Israel has lost it's collective mind and is totally out of control!
 
KidRocks said:
Good for Iran!

I hope the United States takes notice that Iran is indeed a major player in the Middle East and gives Iran it's due respect!

Maybe then we will be able to establish a dialog that leads to a lasting peace!

We already have a dialog with Iran. Under what set of circumstances could it possibly lead to a lasting peace, as long as the theocracy remains in power?
 
KidRocks said:
Just trying to save Israel from self-destruction. It seems that Israel has lost it's collective mind and is totally out of control!

Aww, how considerate of you. :roll:

And I'm just trying to save Iran from self-destruction. It seems Iran has lost its collective mind and is totally out of control. Therefore, overthrow of the theocracy is in order, to prevent Tehran from becoming a nuclear crater in the near future.
 
KidRocks said:
Just trying to save Israel from self-destruction. It seems that Israel has lost it's collective mind and is totally out of control!

Aren't you the same guy who said you'd personally like to see Israel lose? :roll:
 
talloulou said:
No he's just sympathetic towards Hezbollah.

I, I, I, I!!.......I cant say what I want to, peoples ears would melt.. :badpc:



Kidsucks, I can only think of one for you...:flame:
 
KidRocks said:
Good for Iran!

I hope the United States takes notice that Iran is indeed a major player in the Middle East and gives Iran it's due respect!

Maybe then we will be able to establish a dialog that leads to a lasting peace!







http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060720/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_hezbollah_s_patron

TEHRAN, Iran - Iranian officials often say that places with the greatest troubles offer their country the best opportunities.

Iranian influence in Iraq has surged since the U.S.-led invasion three years ago. Its reach into Afghanistan continues to grow.

And now, the war in Lebanon could make Iran an even more important player in the Islamic world even as its militant Shiite Arab client, Hezbollah, gets pounded by Israel.

"Iran sees itself more than just the moral father of Hezbollah. Iran seeks to become a major force across the region as a counterbalance to America and Israel," said Ahmad Bakhshaiesh, a professor of political studies at Tehran's Azadi University.

"Lebanon is part of this plan," he said.

Already, officials and experts say that for any cease-fire or broader peace package to succeed, Iran's deep ties with Hezbollah must be taken into account.

Hezbollah could emerge from the battles severely weakened militarily, but with its reputation enhanced in the Muslim world for resisting Israel. That in turn would give Iran, a non-Arab country, an even higher profile in the Arab world — a prospect that frightens the Jewish state...


This is why the Democrats lose elections, because they are too far to the left, and are weak on foreign policy. I don't mind a real democrat, JFK, FDR, or even Truman. But let's look at the last 3 Democrats who have been president. Clinton, Carter, and Johnson. All Foreign policy failures. So the Republicans are not fear mongering, quite the opposite actually.
 
KidRocks said:
Good for Iran!

I hope the United States takes notice that Iran is indeed a major player in the Middle East and gives Iran it's due respect!

Maybe then we will be able to establish a dialog that leads to a lasting peace!

You're rooting for a theocratic fascist dictatorship to gain MORE power in the Middle East? :shock:


How the **** do you sleep at night.
 
I was going to cuss you out calling you every degrading name I could think of hell even if you where standing in front of me and I knocked you a$$ out it still wouldn’t do any good cause you would just wake up with the same distorted beliefs you have.

I’m glad you have never had to deal with Iran, I’m glad you have never had to bare witness to the horrors of what people can do to each other day in, day out. I’m glad you didn’t have to stand guard at what was left of the US Embassy in Lebanon after the bombing because you didn’t know if the dipshits would try another attack on the rescuers.
I’m glad you have never had to bare witness to what a suicide bomber can do. TWICE!
I’m glad you didn’t lose ALL of your friends in one day. I’m glad you have never had to search thru the rubble of what use to be your home praying to find someone, anyone alive praying to God himself to undo what had been done. But he didn’t, more and more bags were filled.

But just so you don’t forget. It was IRAN and the HEZBOLLA who killed my friends that day..
I hope to hell you never have to live thru that. I hope none of you do..
 
Kandahar said:
We already have a dialog with Iran. Under what set of circumstances could it possibly lead to a lasting peace, as long as the theocracy remains in power?



Oh the theocracy can be turned around and so can Irans President, just show them respect, let them mingle with the world's leaders and they will come to their senses, let them wet their beaks as the godfather once said, give them a chance to trade with the U.S. and Europe, put them on a pedastal and you will see the changes, that includes North Korea and other rogue nations.
 
cherokee said:
I was going to cuss you out calling you every degrading name I could think of hell even if you where standing in front of me and I knocked you a$$ out it still wouldn’t do any good cause you would just wake up with the same distorted beliefs you have.

I’m glad you have never had to deal with Iran, I’m glad you have never had to bare witness to the horrors of what people can do to each other day in, day out. I’m glad you didn’t have to stand guard at what was left of the US Embassy in Lebanon after the bombing because you didn’t know if the dipshits would try another attack on the rescuers.
I’m glad you have never had to bare witness to what a suicide bomber can do. TWICE!
I’m glad you didn’t lose ALL of your friends in one day. I’m glad you have never had to search thru the rubble of what use to be your home praying to find someone, anyone alive praying to God himself to undo what had been done. But he didn’t, more and more bags were filled.

But just so you don’t forget. It was IRAN and the HEZBOLLA who killed my friends that day..
I hope to hell you never have to live thru that. I hope none of you do..


Sorry to hear about your friends but that is over and I suggest you try to get over it. You are not the first and only person to lose loved ones and friends in any war or conflict.

We need to try to talk to the terrorist leaders, ask them if there is anything we can do to help each other, offer them aid, jobs, and respect in trade for leaving Israel and America alone, offer them a piece of the "pie". Once we sincerly put out the carrot-stick watch and see their own people urge them to "talk"!

I believe that it may well work. What we are doing now is certainly not working.
 
KidRocks said:
Oh the theocracy can be turned around and so can Irans President, just show them respect, let them mingle with the world's leaders and they will come to their senses,

What on earth makes you think that you can turn radical extrmist Islamofascists around by having them 'mingle' with world leaders, etc?

You havent a CLUE as to what motivates these people.
 
KidRocks said:
Oh the theocracy can be turned around and so can Irans President, just show them respect, let them mingle with the world's leaders and they will come to their senses, let them wet their beaks as the godfather once said, give them a chance to trade with the U.S. and Europe, put them on a pedastal and you will see the changes, that includes North Korea and other rogue nations.


Hay Neville how's it going buddy have any good peace talks with Hitler lately?

God damn son crack a book, turn on the history channel, or something; the appeasement of tyrants only serves to encourage them such is the lesson of history which you are apparently damned to repeat.
 
KidRocks said:
Oh the theocracy can be turned around and so can Irans President, just show them respect, let them mingle with the world's leaders and they will come to their senses, let them wet their beaks as the godfather once said, give them a chance to trade with the U.S. and Europe, put them on a pedastal and you will see the changes, that includes North Korea and other rogue nations.

That is absolutely absurd. On balance who do you believe is more right, Iran or Israel? What do you think would happen if Iran were to become a Middle East power? Do you honestly think that would lead to the spread of peace and prosperity throughout the Muslim world?
 
Goobieman said:
What on earth makes you think that you can turn radical extrmist Islamofascists around by having them 'mingle' with world leaders, etc?

You havent a CLUE as to what motivates these people.


I think people once felt that way about Red China, the Red menace, not to mention the USSR, Communist, pinko-infested nation, but we turned them around, slowly but surely, Nixon. of all people opened up Red China via dialog and trade and respect. Everyone feared the Communist giants, especially you Republicans.
 
KidRocks said:
I think people once felt that way about Red China, the Red menace, not to mention the USSR, Communist, pinko-infested nation, but we turned them around, slowly but surely, Nixon. of all people opened up Red China via dialog and trade and respect. Everyone feared the Communist giants, especially you Republicans.


No he didn't he turned them through confrontational rhetoric and a massive arms build up with which they could not compete he abandoned the idea of containment for a policy of victory over them.
 
KidRocks said:
I think people once felt that way about Red China, the Red menace, not to mention the USSR, Communist, pinko-infested nation, but we turned them around, slowly but surely, Nixon. of all people opened up Red China via dialog and trade and respect. Everyone feared the Communist giants, especially you Republicans.

This doesnt change the fact that you don't have a clue as to what motivates the Iranian leadership.

Radical, militant Islamofascist extremists are the greatest threat of our time -- and your solution is to invite them to more parties. :roll:
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
That is absolutely absurd. On balance who do you believe is more right, Iran or Israel? What do you think would happen if Iran were to become a Middle East power? Do you honestly think that would lead to the spread of peace and prosperity throughout the Muslim world?



I'm not so sure who is right, Israel or Iran, sure, Hamas, Hebollah and the Palestinian terrorists blow up Israelis at the drop of a hat but Israel stoops to their level by wantonly blowing up civilians by the hundreds, thousands, including women and children, Israel serves up death and destruction tenfold. Israel is no angel.
 
Goobieman said:
Yhis doesnt chaneg the fact that you don't have a clue as to what motivates the Iranian leadership.

Radical, militant Islamofascist extremists are the greatest threat of our time -- and your solution is to invite them to more parties. :roll:



That's what I'm talking about, at one time Red China and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic were considered the "greatest threat of our time" without a doubt. And now, you extremists consider the "islamofacists" as "the greatest threat of our time". It's all relevent.
 
KidRocks said:
That's what I'm talking about, at one time Red China and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic were considered the "greatest threat of our time" without a doubt. And now, you extremists consider the "islamofacists" as "the greatest threat of our time". It's all relevent.

It MIGHT be relevant if we took down the USSR and dulled China by inviting them to more parties.

As I said, and as you continue to demostrate -- you don't have a clue as to what motivates these people.
 
KidRocks said:
I'm not so sure who is right, Israel or Iran, sure, Hamas, Hebollah and the Palestinian terrorists blow up Israelis at the drop of a hat but Israel stoops to their level by wantonly blowing up civilians by the hundreds, thousands, including women and children, Israel serves up death and destruction tenfold. Israel is no angel.

Let me ask you this then. If Israel ceased all hostilities tomorrow, would Hamas and Hesbollah seek peace?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Let me ask you this then. If Israel ceased all hostilities tomorrow, would Hamas and Hesbollah seek peace?


Of course, they've taken a pounding and gotten the message for the time. But nothing has been resolved, has it?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Let me ask you this then. If Israel ceased all hostilities tomorrow, would Hamas and Hesbollah seek peace?

If the Arabs put down their weapons, it would be the end of the violence.
If the Israelis put down their weapons, it would be the end of Israel.
 
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