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It is reported than Iran hanged two boys 17 & 18 in Northern Iran.They were executed for committing a homosexual act.The boys were kept in prison and tortured for over a year.Which means they may have been as young as 16 when the alleged act took place.Another execution is planned for the end of August.
The only thing to copare to this would be the Spanish Inquisition at its height in the 15th century and the Taliban in Afghanistan.This is an example of life in an, Islamic Republic !
 

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JOHNYJ said:
It is reported than Iran hanged two boys 17 & 18 in Northern Iran.They were executed for committing a homosexual act.The boys were kept in prison and tortured for over a year.Which means they may have been as young as 16 when the alleged act took place.Another execution is planned for the end of August.
The only thing to copare to this would be the Spanish Inquisition at its height in the 15th century and the Taliban in Afghanistan.This is an example of life in an, Islamic Republic !
Sounds much like what this country is headed for with our own r-wing extremists in this country. Scary!
 

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Hey I don't condone what they did in any way but Islam condemns homosexuality stronger then any other religion.......If this is true it does not surprise me...........
 

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Hey I don't condone what they did in any way but Islam condemns homosexuality stronger then any other religion.......If this is true it does not surprise me...........
Thats right

Islam is so clear,

If you are Moslem you can't be homosexual because if it gay action you will die if four respectable men saw you doing that, not just without cloths or just kissing, no they must see them doing the action I mean something insaide something

About the age in the Islam rules the 15 years old are old enough to know what he is doing

gays killed
lesbian up to the judge

Because of thats everyone should think deeply because saying that he is Moslem, because the Isalm had some strong rules

And thats rules not just like that, its always for good things, as far as it from the god

but there is some people use it badly
 

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...Dude! Why would they be watching gay sex in the first place?! :shock:
 

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...Dude! Why would they be watching gay sex in the first place?! :shock:
lets suppose they was doing it in a car, pupblic place there is chance that the people can see them
 

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KidRocks said:
Sounds much like what this country is headed for with our own r-wing extremists in this country. Scary!
With people like Barney Frank in Congress? Slow down with your L-wing extremists rhetoric.
 

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Re: Iran executes homosexual convicted rapists

Notice how conveniently the homosexual extremists operatives left out that the two men were convicted of rape? I already exposed that in a previous post when homosexual agenda operatives brought up this claim awhile ago here, but the homosexual operatives are back to their little marketing campaign.

I see the homosexual extremists here once again are trying to paint themselves as the victim in accordance with The Homosexual Agenda Chapter 2:

[2] PORTRAY GAYS AS VICTIMS, NOT AS AGGRESSIVE CHALLENGERS.

In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector. If gays are presented, instead, as a strong and prideful tribe promoting a rigidly nonconformist and deviant lifestyle, they are more likely to be seen as a public menace that justifies resistance and oppression. For that reason, we must forego the temptation to strut our "gay pride" publicly when it conflicts with the Gay Victim image. And we must walk the fine line between impressing straights with our great numbers, on the one hand, and sparking their hostile paranoia-"They are all around us!"--on the other.

A media campaign to promote the Gay Victim image should make use of symbols which reduce the mainstream's sense of threat, which lower it's guard, and which enhance the plausibility of victimization. In practical terms, this means that jaunty mustachioed musclemen would keep very low profile in gay commercials and other public presentations, while sympathetic figures of nice young people, old people, and attractive women would be featured. (It almost goes without saying that groups on the farthest margin of acceptability such as NAMBLA, [Ed note -- North American Man-Boy Love Association] must play no part at all in such a campaign: suspected child-molesters will never look like victims.)

Now, there are two different messages about the Gay Victim that are worth communicating. First, the mainstream should be told that gays are victims of fate, in the sense that most never had a choice to accept or reject their sexual preference. The message must read: "As far as gays can tell, they were born gay, just as you were born heterosexual or white or black or bright or athletic. Nobody ever tricked or seduced them; they never made a choice, and are not morally blameworthy. What they do isn't willfully contrary - it's only natural for them. This twist of fate could as easily have happened to you!"

Straight viewers must be able to identify with gays as victims. Mr. and Mrs. Public must be given no extra excuses to say, "they are not like us." To this end, the persons featured in the public campaign should be decent and upright, appealing and admirable by straight standards, completely unexceptionable in appearance--in a word, they should be indistinguishable from the straights we would like to reach. (To return to the terms we have used in previous articles, spokesmen for our cause must be R-type "straight gays" rather than Q-type "homosexuals on
display.") Only under such conditions will the message be read correctly: "These folks are victims of a fate that could have happened to me."

By the way, we realize that many gays will question an advertising technique, which might threaten to make homosexuality look like some dreadful disease, which strikes fated "victims". But the plain fact is that the gay community is weak and must manipulate the powers of the weak, including the play for sympathy. In any case, we compensate for the negative aspect of this gay victim appeal under Principle 4. (Below)

The second message would portray gays as victims of society. The straight majority does not recognize the suffering it brings to the lives of gays and must be shown: graphic pictures of brutalized gays; dramatizations of job and housing insecurity, loss of child custody, and public humiliation: and the dismal list goes on.

"... In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector."

[3] GIVE PROTECTORS A JUST CAUSE.

A media campaign that casts gays as society's victims and encourages straights to be their protectors must make it easier for those to respond to assert and explain their new protectiveness. Few straight women, and even fewer straight men, will want to defend homosexuality boldly as such. Most would rather attach their awakened protective impulse to some principle of justice or law, to some general desire for consistent and fair treatment in society. Our campaign should not demand direct support for homosexual practices, should instead take anti-discrimination as its theme. The right to free speech, freedom of beliefs, freedom of association, due process and equal protection of laws-these should be the concerns brought to mind by our campaign.

It is especially important for the gay movement to hitch its cause to accepted standards of law and justice because its straight supporters must have at hand a cogent reply to the moral arguments of its enemies. The homophobes clothe their emotional revulsion in the daunting robes of religious dogma, so defenders of gay rights must be ready to counter dogma with principle.
 
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It's sad that some superstitions and mythologies like Islam are in place that will kill consenting adults for doing what they want to.
 

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shuamort said:
It's sad that some superstitions and mythologies like Islam are in place that will kill consenting adults for doing what they want to.
I am not all together sure it actually happened since the originator of this thread posted no link to the story........
 

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Here we go:

Report: Iran Executes Another Gay Man

London) Another gay man has been executed in Iran - the third in the past month - a British newspaper reports.
The Observer reports that it has been been informed by underground Iranian activists that the latest execution occurred in the city of Arak on August 16.

On July 19 two gay teenagers were executed in the northeastern city of Mashhad. (story) The hangings sparked international outrage.

The Iranian government maintains the teens had raped a 13 year old boy - an allegation that many international rights groups discount.

Last week Iran activists said that two more young Iranian men have been sentenced to die on August 27 after having been convicted by a Sharia or Islamic court for alleged homosexual intercourse and "rape". The reports cannot be independently verified.

The exiled Iranian gay rights group, Homan, claims the Iranian government has executed at least 4,000 gays since 1979.

In London, gay rights activists are fighting the extradition of a gay man to Iran. The man, whose identity has not been revealed, told a court that he fled the country after a gay friend was arrested. The court was told that in making the arrest Iranian police seized a video of the pair kissing.
 

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shuamort said:
It's sad that some superstitions and mythologies like Islam are in place that will kill consenting adults for doing what they want to.
With over 1.5 billion people that believe as Muslims, I don't think you can consider Islam anything but a religion on par with the smaller religions of the world such as Christianity or Judaism. It is sad to consider it only as superstition and mythology. It certainly is not. You have to remember that is wasn't too many years ago in our own country under the blanket of Christianity that homosexual behavior of any kind could put you in prison and for many, it did.

Although I don't attempt to label anyone here, bigotry is bigotry whether racial, religious or cultural. I see it as a governments priority and if this is how the Iranians see a law that is to be upheld then either it is up to the government, people or time to change it. Whether we approve or not is important to us as free individuals but to condem an entire religion and dismiss it as something less than a world religion is lacking thoughtfulness at best.
:duel :cool:
 

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Frmo M-W.Com... If the shoe fits:

Main Entry: my·thol·o·gy
Pronunciation: mi-'thä-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French mythologie, from Late Latin mythologia interpretation of myths, from Greek, legend, myth, from mythologein to relate myths, from mythos + logos speech -- more at LEGEND
1 : an allegorical narrative
2 : a body of myths : as a : the myths dealing with the gods, demigods, and legendary heroes of a particular people b : MYTHOS 2 <cold war mythology>
3 : a branch of knowledge that deals with myth
4 : a popular belief or assumption that has grown up around someone or something <defective mythologies that ignore masculine depth of feeling -- Robert Bly>


Main Entry: su·per·sti·tion
Pronunciation: "sü-p&r-'sti-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English supersticion, from Middle French, from Latin superstition-, superstitio, from superstit-, superstes standing over (as witness or survivor), from super- + stare to stand -- more at STAND
1 a : a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b : an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2 : a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary
 

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shuamort said:
Frmo M-W.Com... If the shoe fits:

Main Entry: my·thol·o·gy
Pronunciation: mi-'thä-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French mythologie, from Late Latin mythologia interpretation of myths, from Greek, legend, myth, from mythologein to relate myths, from mythos + logos speech -- more at LEGEND
1 : an allegorical narrative
2 : a body of myths : as a : the myths dealing with the gods, demigods, and legendary heroes of a particular people b : MYTHOS 2 <cold war mythology>
3 : a branch of knowledge that deals with myth
4 : a popular belief or assumption that has grown up around someone or something <defective mythologies that ignore masculine depth of feeling -- Robert Bly>


Main Entry: su·per·sti·tion
Pronunciation: "sü-p&r-'sti-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English supersticion, from Middle French, from Latin superstition-, superstitio, from superstit-, superstes standing over (as witness or survivor), from super- + stare to stand -- more at STAND
1 a : a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b : an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2 : a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary
I have also posted from the dictionary but not just from the dictionary. Is there some reason you feel this relates to Islam? :duel :cool:
 

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shuamort said:
It's sad that some superstitions and mythologies like Islam are in place that will kill consenting adults for doing what they want to.
Just imagine what will happen if everyone did what he want!

The adult can do what he want if he is communist, but If he’s Moslem he can’t do whatever he want because there are rules manage his life
 

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SMBS said:
Just imagine what will happen if everyone did what he want!

The adult can do what he want if he is communist, but If he’s Moslem he can’t do whatever he want because there are rules manage his life
Sure, the Moslem can do whatever he wants, and if that includes following archaic, asinine, or superstitious beliefs that's HIS business. The problem is when the Moslem tries to inflict his beliefs onto others such as the gays in this situation. The operative language here is "consenting adults".
 

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gordontravels said:
I have also posted from the dictionary but not just from the dictionary. Is there some reason you feel this relates to Islam? :duel :cool:
I believe it relates to all religions. They are all mythologies, aka allegorical narratives, based on superstitions. Pick up a little Sir James George Frasier or Joseph Campbell if you will and it will be apparent how derivative these religions are just adjunct and contemporary arms of their predecessors. Mythology has begat new mythology that is being termed as religion but it's all the same bundle.
 

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shuamort said:
Sure, the Moslem can do whatever he wants, and if that includes following archaic, asinine, or superstitious beliefs that's HIS business. The problem is when the Moslem tries to inflict his beliefs onto others such as the gays in this situation. The operative language here is "consenting adults".
No sir,

They can do anything they want unless its not against the Islamic ethics, those two gauys called themselves Moslems, so they have to live in Islamical way

If they wan't, they shouldn't say that they are Moslem in the first place

Their action gives wrong idea to the people about Islam, leaving them doing what they want means that the Islam agreee with their action and thats not true
 

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SMBS said:
No sir,

They can do anything they want unless its not against the Islamic ethics, those two gauys called themselves Moslems, so they have to live in Islamical way

If they wan't, they shouldn't say that they are Moslem in the first place

Their action gives wrong idea to the people about Islam, leaving them doing what they want means that the Islam agreee with their action and thats not true
Sure they can. Just as the terrorists called themselves Moslems and other Moslem leaders denounced their actions as saying they weren't. Islam has multi-factions that disagree with each other and don't all follow the same codes. Turkey is a predominantly Moslem country but they have laws that do not follow Shari'a dress codes. Does that mean that they are not Moslems?
 

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religion doesnt kill people, people kill people

know what is one of the 20th centuries greatest examples of systematic murder?

Stalin's Great Purge- somthing instigated, planned and maintained not only by those professing the greatest commitment to atheism, but who were "moderns"- those who had been elevated above petty tradition and cultural bias by liberal philosophy and thinking.

so they just MURDERED EVERYONE

Or the horrifying slaughter of the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution

Or the terror of Pol Pot and the Khemer Rouge

Misguided thinking, secular and religious, kills people.
 

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If these guys raped a 13 year old boy then they should have been executed.

Sorta hypocritical for the US to condemn executing someone who committed an offense such as this when execution was allowed for rape prior to the Warren Court of the 60s and early 70s and the only reason execution is not allowed for pre-18 year old murderers in the US today is due to some liberals on the Supreme Court overturning it earlier this year.
 
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JOHNYJ said:
It is reported than Iran hanged two boys 17 & 18 in Northern Iran.They were executed for committing a homosexual act.The boys were kept in prison and tortured for over a year.Which means they may have been as young as 16 when the alleged act took place.Another execution is planned for the end of August.
The only thing to copare to this would be the Spanish Inquisition at its height in the 15th century and the Taliban in Afghanistan.This is an example of life in an, Islamic Republic !
An effective measure in curtailing the spread of AIDS.
Perhaps the stae should consider this in our own lands but I doubt it as many politicians experience every known vice imaginable.
 

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Aryan Imperium said:
An effective measure in curtailing the spread of AIDS.
Do you have a citation that backs this up? Some sort of a real world study?
 

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Simon W. Moon said:
Do you have a citation that backs this up? Some sort of a real world study?
Let me guess... no. :mrgreen:
 

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Aryan Imperium said:
An effective measure in curtailing the spread of AIDS.
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Quite the contrary, since it will drive people underground and prevent them seeking the health education and services necessary. More gay men will be forced into sham marriages by social pressure, and unlike gay men who live openly without fear, will seek illicit sex where they can get it, unprepared and unprotected, and then bring home STI's to their wives. Your measure will be counter-productive.

Let's get real here: this moslem or christian "paradise" in which everyone settles down into fulfilling heterosexual marriages and basks in god's love is a myth: a dangerous one. Each to their own. Consenting adults should be free to do as they wish provided they don't harm others. These poor boys were hanged for being themselves. It's a barbaric régime which did this, and any religion which supports that is equally barbaric.
 
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