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Iran Ayatollahs Issue Fatwas Against Koran-Burners

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Iran Ayatollahs Issue Fatwas Against Koran-Burners - BusinessWeek

Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Two Iranian grand ayatollahs issued fatwas calling for the killing of those who insult the Koran, including anyone who burns the Islamic holy book, the state-run Fars news agency reported.

“Undoubtedly, the blood of a person who burns the Koran should be shed,” Makarem-Shirazi was cited by Fars as saying...
This was predicted. Too easy. I'm surprised it took this long.

Now... back to the 7th century...

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You know this is beginning to piss me off. These two sons of bitches ought to have prices on their heads.
 

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Yep, so glad I live in America.

I won the freaking birth lottery.
 

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smell the hypocrisy of those who whine about people having the freedom to burn their own national flag then complain that those who burn another's koran are subject to consequences
 

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YOu call putting a hit out on someone "consequences"? Have we lost all perspective?

One thing I'll say...carrying out a fatwa in the U.S. will likely be more complicated than doing it in Amsterdam. People in Florida are often armed.
 

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YOu call putting a hit out on someone "consequences"? Have we lost all perspective?

One thing I'll say...carrying out a fatwa in the U.S. will likely be more complicated than doing it in Amsterdam. People in Florida are often armed.
toothless, but armed. :)
 

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florida, that land of the overfed, under read, and almost dead
that must scare the muslim terrorists
 

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florida, that land of the overfed, under read, and almost dead
that must scare the muslim terrorists
You forgot overarmed. I think we have 3 x as many guns as we do people here in Florida. :) We like it like that.
 

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Just remember this is the religion of peace. To bad a few clerics have to keep things stirred up. Tolerance is a two way street. While I thought the idea of burning the Koran was a dumb idea, I support the peoples right to express themselves. I wonder if any of the "faith" will come forward and state the clerics are wrong in calling for the killings.
 

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smell the hypocrisy of those who whine about people having the freedom to burn their own national flag then complain that those who burn another's koran are subject to consequences
I was reported for pointing out similar. "Calling people out" is against the rules I was told, though I accused nobody here of burning anything! You must punish for freely imposed liberal values I think!



Just remember this is the religion of peace.


Again, evidence and proof are purely optional extras for a lot of people out there. No wonder it's like wading in treacle a lot of the time trying to properly talk to them. However, you've got to do what Churchill said and Keep Buggering On.


Islam Watch - "The First Final Solution of Jewish Question of Muhammad and the Quran" by Reason

Prophet of Doom - Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words
 
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The problem is Islam and the validity of that belief system. Anything less will leave us with a false sense of security. Islam itself breeds the mindset you see in the likes of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hamas, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

We cannot afford to ignore that.
 

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Your little Anti-Muslims sites aren't proof of jack ****.

Actually, they're proof that fear-based propaganda works as well now as it did in Nazi Germany. It's the strawman/boogyman effect. Scare people into action by creating a false monster or threat. Joseph McCarthy did it too--though we're still not sure why; power, maybe.

Anyway, your links to bigoted Muslim sites with false misleading information only reveal something about your character. Keep posting them if you want, along with every story of Muslim extremism, because those are the ones that get the most coverage. The other 90% of the Muslim world, peacefully living their life, that's who should be getting the coverage right now. Fight the fear and intolerance with truth.

Personally, I think your links to anti-Muslim sites are the equivalent of posting links to KKK sites , and therefore have no place here. But those sites are the price we pay for free speech, I guess.
 

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LOL. People act surprised that Iranian Ayatollahs would say this? Let's remember these are the same people that rigged an election, killed dissenters (who were Muslim - yeah Muslims protesting for womens rights, democracy and freedom of speech by thier OWN will), have Americans unlawfully imprisoned, are supportive of Hezzbollah and Hamas, house terrorists, stone people to death, are trying to make nuclear weapons and, oh yeah, LETS GET SADDAM!

I'm not sure what we are trying to get out of this thread.
 

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I said evidence and proof.

All the hate and vitriol Muhammad ever uttered is proof of what Islam is because ISLAM WAS A 'RELIGION' BASED ON THE PERSONALITY OF THE PSYCHO HIMSELF!

Reporting it is presenting the evidence, thus it's immaterial whether those sites are anti-Islam or merely anti-terrorist.

The sooner liberals realise that the sooner they'll think more logically.




But no. We have to have downmarket emotional responses, such as the laughable 'just like Nazi Germany' trash. In fact, such an 'argument' so lacks credibility that only Nazism is as brutal, anti-semitic and downright supremacist as Islam itself!



Mein Kampf: Best seller in Muslim Bangladesh | Middle East Affairs Information Center | Analysis, Opinions and In depth information on Middle East Affairs




Muslim woman DEFENDING 'apes and pigs' text kids are taught in mainstream Muslim schools:






Middle-East-Info.org - Anti-Semitism - Hitler's "Mein Kampf" Arabic Bestseller - Israel - United Nations

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Pedestrian Infidel: The Koran Versus Mein Kampf







The other 90% of the Muslim world, peacefully living their life, that's who should be getting the coverage right now.
They're more than welcome to put out their own propaganda, as they do with relish and freedom. Though, the quarter of Muslims in Britain who sympathise with terrorists often walk the line themselves, even if they have the savvy not to do anything themselves.

Even the advisory body to HM Government, the Muslim Council of Britain, haven't been immune from the effects of the poison of their own doctrine: http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/293



Personally, I think your links to anti-Muslim sites are the equivalent of posting links to KKK sites
Funny, if my sites are so worthless, that NOBODY on the Liberal-Left comes up with ANYTHING to link to, to consistently refute the points I make.

Still, if we have to stick with what we know, then more insults please.
 
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yeah Muslims protesting for womens rights, democracy and freedom of speech by thier OWN will
This may surprise the 'Nowhere Men' here to know that I do indeed think people like this should be encouraged and popularised, even lionised.


Groups like the Muslim Women Against Shariah group should be given every encouragement, with small Muslim Womens' Groups over here protected, funded and licensed by our Government. It's not often mentioned but when Muslim women start to make a case for their rights publically the Muslim community is stressed (especially the chauvanist pigs who dominate the ladies so much that if it was the rest of us doing it, the liberal scum running us would have us in court every week.)


With women not even allowed in the mosques, it's about time criticism and strict laws were applied to the Muslim Community on issues the rest of us have absolutely no issue with.


Rolled-up Trousers: Channel 4's Women Only Jihad
 
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Oh yeah republic. I can post the truth too...

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Personally, I think your links to anti-Muslim sites are the equivalent of posting links to KKK sites , and therefore have no place here. But those sites are the price we pay for free speech, I guess.
Ah, free speech

The key is that the foundation of, the US is Christian THEREFORE it has religious freedom.

Imagine *IF* the KEY foundation would have been Islamic?.....= ****ed up beyond all recognition
 

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Ah, free speech

The key is that the foundation of, the US is Christian THEREFORE it has religious freedom.

Imagine *IF* the KEY foundation would have been Islamic?.....= ****ed up beyond all recognition
WRONG the US is Christian because they were escaping Christian religious persecution - like the church of England. They were looking for the religious freedom OTHER Christians would not allow them. Very basic history ric27. Like second grade stuff.
 

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With women not even allowed in the mosques, it's about time criticism and strict laws were applied to the Muslim Community on issues the rest of us have absolutely no issue with.
I just posted a number of videos of people asking for exactly that. Oh wait, but they're Muslim. At least somebody wants something other than war to fix these problems.
 

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Let it be known throughout the heavens and the earth, that on this very day, I do issue a fatwah on Makarem-Shirazi.

This will be upheld.
 

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Oh yeah republic. I can post the truth too...

Blame the media for terrorism and the reason Muslim leaders across the world don't condemn it, the peace conference bloke says. Not the perpetrators or the pushy Muslims who want Piglet from Winnie he Pooh banned, etc., or the evil in Islam itself for the PR image, but the newspapers.

That people can think that is a truth which sits uncomfortably. But thanks for posting it.


And I support the rap guy and any Muslims thinking Israel has its right to exist and manifest itself the same as any other nation. The lady speaking needs to face down satanic international Muslim leaders as a bona-fide government official. And sod the diplomatic consequences.

We just need to have people like that LEADING the Muslim world and not FOLLOWING. But because the ideology and system is the way it is, we won't have much hope of that.

Still, good contribution - though there was STILL no comprehensive condemnation of terrorists or the evil inherent in Islam and its Prophet by so many 'moderates'.



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I just posted a number of videos of people asking for exactly that. Oh wait, but they're Muslim.
I did mention that people like that need the state's full support, not the usual assortment of liberal-sponsored troublemakers wanting crap like new potato chip recipes.

Islam NEEDS to be reformed and that's the only way good people like that can win in their own communities.



At least somebody wants something other than war to fix these problems.
After much time, we found some! They deserve a pat on the back for the kind of thing everyone else would be expected to do as a matter of course!


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Muslims criticise Walkers after it is revealed that some crisp varieties contain alcohol | Mail Online


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The Koran doesn't ban alcohol, it just warns against drunkenness. It's religious zealots that have done the rest. If this wasn't a religious issue people would quickly realize that the amount of alcohol in the crisps couldn't contribute to any problem with alcohol except possibly massive allergy. But because it is seen as a rule from God suddenly we're all obliged to throw away common sense. This applies as much to the Mormons as the Muslims, or indeed the Methodists.
 
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Blame the media for terrorism and the reason Muslim leaders across the world don't condemn it, the peace conference bloke says. Not the perpetrators or the pushy Muslims who want Piglet from Winnie he Pooh banned, etc., or the evil in Islam itself for the PR image, but the newspapers.

That people can think that is a truth which sits uncomfortably. But thanks for posting it.

And I support the rap guy and any Muslims thinking Israel has its right to exist and manifest itself the same as any other nation. The lady speaking needs to face down satanic international Muslim leaders as a bona-fide government official. And sod the diplomatic consequences.

We just need to have people like that LEADING the Muslim world and not FOLLOWING. But because the ideology and system is the way it is, we won't have much hope of that.

Still, good contribution - though there was STILL no comprehensive condemnation of terrorists or the evil inherent in Islam and its Prophet by so many 'moderates'.
Actually he was saying that although Muslim leaders do condemn violent Islam, they are not heard because the media portrays Islam in a negative light.
If half the stories regarding Islam are about violence, but 1% of Islam commits such acts, it puts Islam and non radical Muslims at a huge disadvantage. Much like your posting of choice videos. It doesn't explain the whole picture, which most are unwilling to even look at.

There are approximately 5 million Muslim citizens in the US (US News & World Report). How many of them have committed acts of Islamic violence in the name of Jihad?

Not many. However, you are trying to tell me Islam (and therefore Muslims) is inherently evil, instead of looking at the humanitarian aspect of Muslims abroad - be it brutal dictatorships, war, 3rd world poverty.

I'm just saying that being born into poverty, being under the influence of Sharia Law all thier life, and having thier country bombed still equates to maybe 1% of these people turning towards extremist violence. Even in those conditions. It is the governments, and the governments that support extremism that we need to worry about. Not Muslims. Not Islam. Is that not agreeable?
 

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The Koran doesn't ban alcohol, it just warns against drunkenness. It's religious zealots that have done the rest. If this wasn't a religious issue people would quickly realize that the amount of alcohol in the crisps couldn't contribute to any problem with alcohol except possibly massive allergy. But because it is seen as a rule from God suddenly we're all obliged to throw away common sense. This applies as much to the Mormons as the Muslims, or indeed the Methodists.
The bible bans homosexuality as much as it bans divorce. And religious zealots have done the rest. But because it is seen as a rule from God suddenly we're all obliged to throw away common sense.
 
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