Iowa congressman wants to block $20 Tubman

[TheDemSocialist]

The recirculation costs of pulling all old 20s for replacement with the new is the additional cost. Again, I don't have hard numbers and haven't been able to find any, but I remember hearing stories when the did the last redesign that it was costly.

They dont "pull" bills when they are redesigned. Bills have been redesigned throughout history and are still accepted legal tender. When we redesigned quarters to put various landmarks and state landmarks on the back of them we didnt "pull" all the old quarters. In the early-mid 2000's when $20, $50, and $100 was redesigned we didnt "pull" all those old bills.

They haven't redesigned the $1 bill since ~1929 which is why the original statement is in the bill, so I suspect since this is an annual appropriations bill, it would last a calendar year.

That is correct it would last a fiscal year for the federal government in the year of 2017...

 

[faithful_servant]

Read more @: Iowa congressman wants to block $20 Tubman

He is at least a ****ing asshole.... [/FONT][/COLOR]

Oh and his proposal isn't targeted at preventing Tubman, but preserving Jackson. Yes, it does stop her from being on the bill, but he has clearly stated that the bill was intended to preserve Jackson's picture, since he liked it and disliked changing it. It wasn't done as a negative towards Tubman, but as a positive towards Jackson.

Steve King won't be blocking Harriet Tubman from $20 bill

"It's not about Harriet Tubman, it's about keeping the picture on the $20," King said Tuesday night, according to Politico, pulling a $20 bill from his pocket and pointing at President Andrew Jackson. "Y'know? Why would you want to change that? I am a conservative, I like to keep what we have."

Politico quoted King as saying it is "racist" and "sexist" to say a woman or person of color should be added to currency.

"Here's what's really happening, this is liberal activism on the part of the president, that's trying to identify people by categories and he's divided us on the lines of groups. … This is a divisive proposal on the part of the president and mine's unifying. It says just don't change anything."

King is dead-on balls accurate. This is the first 50 of "The Atlantics" Top 100 list:
1 Abraham Lincoln
2 George Washington
3 Thomas Jefferson
4*Franklin*Delano*Roosevelt
5 Alexander Hamilton
6 Benjamin Franklin
7 John Marshall
8 Martin Luther King Jr.
9 Thomas Edison
10 Woodrow*Wilson
11 John D. Rockefeller
12 Ulysses S. Grant
13 James Madison
14 Henry Ford
15 Theodore Roosevelt
16 Mark Twain
17 Ronald Reagan
18 Andrew Jackson*
19 Thomas Paine
20 Andrew Carnegie
21 Harry Truman
22 Walt Whitman
23 Wright Brothers
24 Alexander Graham*Bell
25 John Adams
26 Walt Disney
27 Eli Whitney
28 Dwight Eisenhower
29 Earl Warren
30 Elizabeth Cady*Stanton
31 Henry Clay
32 Albert Einstein
33 Ralph Waldo Emerson
34 Jonas Salk
35 Jackie Robinson*
36 William*Jennings*Bryan*
37 J. P. Morgan
38 Susan B. Anthony
39 Rachel Carson
40 John Dewey
41 Harriet Beecher Stowe*
42 Eleanor Roosevelt*
43 W. E. B. DuBois
44 Lyndon Baines Johnson
45 Samuel F. B. Morse
46 William Lloyd Garrison
47 Frederick Douglass
48 Robert Oppenheimer
49*Frederick*Law Olmsted
50 James K. Polk

The 100 Most Influential Americans. And The Most Important Lists. Ever. /Pierre Tristam [Candide's Notebooks]

There are a LOT of people more deserving than Tubman for this honor (not to minimize her efforts in any way, just to put them in proper perspective), yet she was chosen for some reason.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Oh and his proposal isn't targeted at preventing Tubman, but preserving Jackson. Yes, it does stop her from being on the bill, but he has clearly stated that the bill was intended to preserve Jackson's picture, since he liked it and disliked changing it. It wasn't done as a negative towards Tubman, but as a positive towards Jackson.

Steve King won't be blocking Harriet Tubman from $20 bill



King is dead-on balls accurate. This is the first 50 of "The Atlantics" Top 100 list:
1 Abraham Lincoln
2 George Washington
3 Thomas Jefferson
4*Franklin*Delano*Roosevelt
5 Alexander Hamilton
6 Benjamin Franklin
7 John Marshall
8 Martin Luther King Jr.
9 Thomas Edison
10 Woodrow*Wilson
11 John D. Rockefeller
12 Ulysses S. Grant
13 James Madison
14 Henry Ford
15 Theodore Roosevelt
16 Mark Twain
17 Ronald Reagan
18 Andrew Jackson*
19 Thomas Paine
20 Andrew Carnegie
21 Harry Truman
22 Walt Whitman
23 Wright Brothers
24 Alexander Graham*Bell
25 John Adams
26 Walt Disney
27 Eli Whitney
28 Dwight Eisenhower
29 Earl Warren
30 Elizabeth Cady*Stanton
31 Henry Clay
32 Albert Einstein
33 Ralph Waldo Emerson
34 Jonas Salk
35 Jackie Robinson*
36 William*Jennings*Bryan*
37 J. P. Morgan
38 Susan B. Anthony
39 Rachel Carson
40 John Dewey
41 Harriet Beecher Stowe*
42 Eleanor Roosevelt*
43 W. E. B. DuBois
44 Lyndon Baines Johnson
45 Samuel F. B. Morse
46 William Lloyd Garrison
47 Frederick Douglass
48 Robert Oppenheimer
49*Frederick*Law Olmsted
50 James K. Polk

The 100 Most Influential Americans. And The Most Important Lists. Ever. /Pierre Tristam [Candide's Notebooks]

There are a LOT of people more deserving than Tubman for this honor (not to minimize her efforts in any way, just to put them in proper perspective), yet she was chosen for some reason.

:lamo His excuse is even more pathetic. "Them goddamn PC libs wanting to change things and stuff! How dare they! They are the racists and sexists!"

 

[Cardinal]

Oh and his proposal isn't targeted at preventing Tubman, but preserving Jackson. Yes, it does stop her from being on the bill, but he has clearly stated that the bill was intended to preserve Jackson's picture, since he liked it and disliked changing it. It wasn't done as a negative towards Tubman, but as a positive towards Jackson.

Steve King won't be blocking Harriet Tubman from $20 bill



King is dead-on balls accurate. This is the first 50 of "The Atlantics" Top 100 list:
1 Abraham Lincoln
2 George Washington
3 Thomas Jefferson
4*Franklin*Delano*Roosevelt
5 Alexander Hamilton
6 Benjamin Franklin
7 John Marshall
8 Martin Luther King Jr.
9 Thomas Edison
10 Woodrow*Wilson
11 John D. Rockefeller
12 Ulysses S. Grant
13 James Madison
14 Henry Ford
15 Theodore Roosevelt
16 Mark Twain
17 Ronald Reagan
18 Andrew Jackson*
19 Thomas Paine
20 Andrew Carnegie
21 Harry Truman
22 Walt Whitman
23 Wright Brothers
24 Alexander Graham*Bell
25 John Adams
26 Walt Disney
27 Eli Whitney
28 Dwight Eisenhower
29 Earl Warren
30 Elizabeth Cady*Stanton
31 Henry Clay
32 Albert Einstein
33 Ralph Waldo Emerson
34 Jonas Salk
35 Jackie Robinson*
36 William*Jennings*Bryan*
37 J. P. Morgan
38 Susan B. Anthony
39 Rachel Carson
40 John Dewey
41 Harriet Beecher Stowe*
42 Eleanor Roosevelt*
43 W. E. B. DuBois
44 Lyndon Baines Johnson
45 Samuel F. B. Morse
46 William Lloyd Garrison
47 Frederick Douglass
48 Robert Oppenheimer
49*Frederick*Law Olmsted
50 James K. Polk

The 100 Most Influential Americans. And The Most Important Lists. Ever. /Pierre Tristam [Candide's Notebooks]

There are a LOT of people more deserving than Tubman for this honor (not to minimize her efforts in any way, just to put them in proper perspective), yet she was chosen for some reason.

You forgot to add the hilarious, incoherent rant he goes on:

Politico quoted King as saying it is "racist" and "sexist" to say a woman or person of color should be added to currency.

"Here's what's really happening, this is liberal activism on the part of the president, that's trying to identify people by categories and he's divided us on the lines of groups. … This is a divisive proposal on the part of the president and mine's unifying. It says just don't change anything."

Sure, it's not about "preventing Tubman."

 

[danarhea]

You're from Texas, right?

:mrgreen:

I'm proud to be an asshole from El Paso........

~Kinky Friedman

BTW, being the asshole I am, I fixed your broken :mrgreen: for you...... And letting you know I did. Do you ever finish anything you start? BWAHAHAHAHA!! :mrgreen:

 

[danarhea]

:lamo His excuse is even more pathetic. "Them goddamn PC libs wanting to change things and stuff! How dare they! They are the racists and sexists!"

Seems to me like a case of "He who smelt it dealt it". LOL.

 

[JasperL]

If I were to guess, given the amendment's language, he's trying to keep the Treasury from redesigning money every couple of years. We just finished our last redesign phase, and if I remember correctly each bill's redesign and circulation process costs a couple hundred million each.

This is the extent of his amendment.

And here is the paragraph requesting to be altered(with line numbers)

Brilliant - so the Treasury cannot spend any money updating the currency to thwart counterfeiters, either!! That's the kind of serious, long range thinking we've come to expect from this moron.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

How ****ing illogical is this!? Somehow its "sexist" and "racist" to replace a slaveowner with a black woman who led slaves to freedom on the underground railroad....

 

[Cardinal]

How ****ing illogical is this!? Somehow its "sexist" and "racist" to replace a slaveowner with a black woman who led slaves to freedom on the underground railroad....

It's actually quite simple. If you don't understand why people keep calling you racist and sexist, simply call other people racist and sexist instead. See, if you're really, really confused, there's no reason why you can't turn it around and confuse everybody else as well.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

How ****ing illogical is this!? Somehow its "sexist" and "racist" to replace a slaveowner with a black woman who led slaves to freedom on the underground railroad....

Hamilton was not a slave owner and he was supportive of abolition. Don't make stuff up to support your point.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Hamilton was not a slave owner and he was supportive of abolition. Don't make stuff up to support your point.

I never knew Alexander Hamilton was on the twenty dollar bill....

 

[AliHajiSheik]

I never knew Alexander Hamilton was on the twenty dollar bill....

Mixed up the bills, my bad.

 

[Moon]

I'm proud to be an asshole from El Paso........

~Kinky Friedman

BTW, being the asshole I am, I fixed your broken :mrgreen: for you...... And letting you know I did. Do you ever finish anything you start? BWAHAHAHAHA!! :mrgreen:

I love the consistency!

Posting from my phone, so smileys are a challenge. Its about all I can do to type complete, semi-coherent sentences!

 

[SHOOTER]

so the Americans that elect their reps are lunatics,liberal socialist love to look down their noses at people that do not suck their thumbs.

run do run

 

[Mason66]

There is no good reason to oppose Tubman's appearance on the $20 bill. Unless King is a time traveler or is immortal and therefore knows something insidious about Tubman that we do not.

So you have decided this.

How can you be so sure?

 

[Mason66]

There's rumors she put ketchup on her scrambled eggs.

If it was Heinz ketchup that would give Republicans reason to oppose her.

 

[SHOOTER]

Wow, that was really well thought out. Are you, like, one of those writer people who make books an stuff in real life?

thank you for your warm words,i thank we should have a three dollar bill for mrs tugman,i guess you must be one of them pseudo intellectual liberals i am not impressed .

run don run

 

[clownboy]

That is stupid. The Tubman $20 is a good option.

I disagree. There should be no replacement. There's absolutely no reason to be redesigning the currency other than for security purposes (and those measures can be taken without changing the basic look). It's a waste of money.

 

[danarhea]

I disagree. There should be no replacement. There's absolutely no reason to be redesigning the currency other than for security purposes (and those measures can be taken without changing the basic look). It's a waste of money.

If it's a waste of money, then quit complaining. The government IS doing it's job. :mrgreen:

 

[faithful_servant]

:lamo His excuse is even more pathetic. "Them goddamn PC libs wanting to change things and stuff! How dare they! They are the racists and sexists!"

He's right. People (especially liberals) are giving additional "honor" to a person based on nothing more than her race/gender. There is a long list of people that are more deserving, when we look ONLY at their accomplishments, than Tubman. She was a great woman and deserves our respect, but so do a lot of other people, many of whom are more deserving than Tubman of this honor. The reason why she was chosen over them was because of race/gender/PC BS and that's wrong and should be fought against, since it is racist/sexist. It may not be negative racism/sexism, but it is racism/sexism nonetheless.

 

[Cardinal]

So you have decided this.

How can you be so sure?

Actually I was right, not surprisingly.

 

[faithful_servant]

You forgot to add the hilarious, incoherent rant he goes on:



Sure, it's not about "preventing Tubman."

No, I included the full quote. Maybe you should stop and take minute to READ.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

He's right. People (especially liberals) are giving additional "honor" to a person based on nothing more than her race/gender. There is a long list of people that are more deserving, when we look ONLY at their accomplishments, than Tubman. She was a great woman and deserves our respect, but so do a lot of other people, many of whom are more deserving than Tubman of this honor. The reason why she was chosen over them was because of race/gender/PC BS and that's wrong and should be fought against, since it is racist/sexist. It may not be negative racism/sexism, but it is racism/sexism nonetheless.

:lamo How is replacing a slaveowner with a black woman who led slaves to freedom on the underground railroad on the $20 bill "racist" and "sexist"?

 

[faithful_servant]

:lamo How is replacing a slaveowner with a black woman who led slaves to freedom on the underground railroad on the $20 bill "racist" and "sexist"?

Is there anyone else who is more deserving than Tubman to be on the $20?? Looking at every single list of the Top 100 Americans I can find, I'd say that the list of candidates is long and distinguished. So what makes Tubman so special that you would rather see her on the $20 than any of the other people in the list I posted above?? Your argument gets won by explaining this one simple fact....

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Is there anyone else who is more deserving than Tubman to be on the $20?? Looking at every single list of the Top 100 Americans I can find, I'd say that the list of candidates is long and distinguished. So what makes Tubman so special that you would rather see her on the $20 than any of the other people in the list I posted above?? Your argument gets won by explaining this one simple fact....

So because you dont think she "deserves" to be on the $20 that makes it "racist" and "sexist"? So because your personal opinion of her not "deserving" it makes it a "racist" and "sexist" policy?