International trade idea

[21stcenturyrights]

For years i've had a concept that I think would encourage development around the world and protect jobs at home in america

It would reduce pollution around the world and I believe possibly reduce the drivers behind terrorism

It's not complicated it's just going to be distasteful

For those who currently operate manufacturing overseas for the purpose of importing to america

That will still totally be allowed one hundred percent we're never gonna stop that

The system is quite simple and every country would have the right to create their own version to protect themselves

One of the reasons terrorism is exploding.

It's because the west and primarily america is exporting pollution

We are moving our factories to countries with basically little or no environmental laws no. Labor protections no safety protections little or none of any of that.


Raw materials are used they're wasted pollution whatever that's why production is cheaper


The old added of kids sewing soccer balls with their teeth


What if the market countries

Said you know what if you want your products to land on these shores even if you're a u s company building overseas

You must pay a living wage to all of your people based on their country. You must have safe factories you must not pollute. You must do a reasonable version of that which is required in america


If you don't want to do that that is fine. We will not force you your products just can't come here


You can produce in the dirty ways cheaply for other markets that don't have this rule.


But if you want access to the largest markets in the world you're going to do this


I have a taxation conversation to have about overseas profits but

The only last part of this is of course the transportation vehicles. The ships they can't be those super polluting waste oil burners. They also have to be reasonably efficient reasonably built reasonably safe and their crews have to be treated reasonably


Suddenly manufacturing overseas becomes a lot less discounted it's still cheaper but it's less cheap



No developed nations at least have a shot

 

[craig]

For years i've had a concept that I think would encourage development around the world and protect jobs at home in america

It would reduce pollution around the world and I believe possibly reduce the drivers behind terrorism

It's not complicated it's just going to be distasteful

For those who currently operate manufacturing overseas for the purpose of importing to america

That will still totally be allowed one hundred percent we're never gonna stop that

The system is quite simple and every country would have the right to create their own version to protect themselves

One of the reasons terrorism is exploding.

It's because the west and primarily america is exporting pollution

We are moving our factories to countries with basically little or no environmental laws no. Labor protections no safety protections little or none of any of that.


Raw materials are used they're wasted pollution whatever that's why production is cheaper


The old added of kids sewing soccer balls with their teeth


What if the market countries

Said you know what if you want your products to land on these shores even if you're a u s company building overseas

You must pay a living wage to all of your people based on their country. You must have safe factories you must not pollute. You must do a reasonable version of that which is required in america


If you don't want to do that that is fine. We will not force you your products just can't come here


You can produce in the dirty ways cheaply for other markets that don't have this rule.


But if you want access to the largest markets in the world you're going to do this


I have a taxation conversation to have about overseas profits but

The only last part of this is of course the transportation vehicles. The ships they can't be those super polluting waste oil burners. They also have to be reasonably efficient reasonably built reasonably safe and their crews have to be treated reasonably


Suddenly manufacturing overseas becomes a lot less discounted it's still cheaper but it's less cheap



No developed nations at least have a shot

Plus we wouldn't have to overthrow their governments and install dictators to get their raw materials and cheap labor.

 

[EdwinWillers]

For years i've had a concept that I think would encourage development around the world and protect jobs at home in america
It would reduce pollution around the world and I believe possibly reduce the drivers behind terrorism
It's not complicated it's just going to be distasteful
For those who currently operate manufacturing overseas for the purpose of importing to america
That will still totally be allowed one hundred percent we're never gonna stop that
The system is quite simple and every country would have the right to create their own version to protect themselves
One of the reasons terrorism is exploding.
It's because the west and primarily america is exporting pollution
We are moving our factories to countries with basically little or no environmental laws no. Labor protections no safety protections little or none of any of that.
Raw materials are used they're wasted pollution whatever that's why production is cheaper
The old added of kids sewing soccer balls with their teeth
What if the market countries
Said you know what if you want your products to land on these shores even if you're a u s company building overseas
You must pay a living wage to all of your people based on their country. You must have safe factories you must not pollute. You must do a reasonable version of that which is required in america
If you don't want to do that that is fine. We will not force you your products just can't come here
You can produce in the dirty ways cheaply for other markets that don't have this rule.
But if you want access to the largest markets in the world you're going to do this
I have a taxation conversation to have about overseas profits but
The only last part of this is of course the transportation vehicles. The ships they can't be those super polluting waste oil burners. They also have to be reasonably efficient reasonably built reasonably safe and their crews have to be treated reasonably
Suddenly manufacturing overseas becomes a lot less discounted it's still cheaper but it's less cheap
No developed nations at least have a shot

First, I fixed your line spacing problem - halving the total length of your OP.
Second, America is capitalized.
Third, how exactly does America - or any country for that matter "export pollution?"
Fourth, your message "seems" to be - don't pollute, because that spreads terrorism, and - be reasonable.
Otherwise, it's a mess of rambling thoughts that aren't even separated logically - all of which makes the entire OP thoroughly incoherent.

 

[21stcenturyrights]

First, I fixed your line spacing problem - halving the total length of your OP.
Second, America is capitalized.
Third, how exactly does America - or any country for that matter "export pollution?"
Fourth, your message "seems" to be - don't pollute, because that spreads terrorism, and - be reasonable.
Otherwise, it's a mess of rambling thoughts that aren't even separated logically - all of which makes the entire OP thoroughly incoherent.

For years i've had a concept that I think would encourage development around the world and protect jobs at home in america
It would reduce pollution around the world and I believe possibly reduce the drivers behind terrorism (extreme poverty, western nations taking advantage of corrupt goverments and hiring workers for "slave conditions" to save money, etc)

It's not complicated it's just going to be distasteful to some - especially -
For those who currently operate manufacturing overseas for the purpose of importing to the West



The system is quite simple and every country would have the right to create their own version to protect themselves

One of the reasons terrorism is exploding. It's because the west (and primarily america )is exporting pollution, poor labor conditions, and dangerous manufacturing to save money, avoid OSHA and other regulations

We are moving our factories to countries with basically little or no environmental laws no. Labor protections no safety protections little or none of any of that.

Raw materials are used they're wasted pollution whatever that's why production is cheaper

For those of us of older age - remember The old added of kids sewing soccer balls with their teeth? that isn't fake.


What if the market countries - the consumer nations like USA Said :
Developing nations and the companies using you for cheap manufacturing (China included):
if you want your products to land on these shores - even if you're a u s company building overseas
You must pay a living wage to all of your people based on their country.
You must have safe factories you must not pollute.
You must do a reasonable version of that which is required in america - adjusted for your local community. but minimum standards of safety and worker protections and community/environmental protections must remain.


If you don't want to do that that is fine. We will not force you

You can produce in the dirty ways cheaply for other markets that don't have this rule.

But if you want access to the largest markets in the world you're going to do this


your products just can't come here


what would that do? simple
1. the manufacturing nations would be safer, their people happier and better paid, and no Bhopal chemical spill (or fewer)
2. manufacturing in the consumer nations would be LESS overpriced by comparison. especially as overseas profits are properly taxed
3. "the great western satan" won't look as bad, since we won't be exploiting those nations and their people/communities (as badly) therefore the terrorists have LESS of a logical argument for conversions




Now developed nations at least have a shot

 

[21stcenturyrights]

First, I fixed your line spacing problem - halving the total length of your OP.
Second, America is capitalized.
Third, how exactly does America - or any country for that matter "export pollution?"
Fourth, your message "seems" to be - don't pollute, because that spreads terrorism, and - be reasonable.
Otherwise, it's a mess of rambling thoughts that aren't even separated logically - all of which makes the entire OP thoroughly incoherent.

Very true I should probably not have done this by voice to text I'll fix it later


How are we export Pollution?

Simple in order to have a factory in america it has to follow certain standard laws

Environmental, social.

 

[joluoto]

You know import standards is not a new thing. The US has them, but they are not that strict and hard to enforce. The EU has stricter import standards, but they are also not strict enough, and really hard to enforce.

 

[21stcenturyrights]

You know import standards is not a new thing. The US has them, but they are not that strict and hard to enforce. The EU has stricter import standards, but they are also not strict enough, and really hard to enforce.

I'm aware import standards are not a new thing, however

I think the difficulty enforcing these would be far away by the value

And I think the host country for the factory would also support them

But if a nation wants to fight verification that's fine their products can stay on their shores

If applied correctly we have less pollution in the host country

Is less danger to their citizens

Better pay and conditions for their citizens

Less reason for their people to be so easily radicalized.

 

[joluoto]

I'm aware import standards are not a new thing, however

I think the difficulty enforcing these would be far away by the value

And I think the host country for the factory would also support them

But if a nation wants to fight verification that's fine their products can stay on their shores

If applied correctly we have less pollution in the host country

Is less danger to their citizens

Better pay and conditions for their citizens

Less reason for their people to be so easily radicalized.

The problem is the system work in a way that the importer provides paperwork that states all import standards are met. If the paperwork is lying they usually won't be found out for years.

 

[ralfy]

Look up the Triffin dilemma.