Instinctual behavior

[ricksfolly]

We all live and react with our natural instincts. Without them, we wouldn't last ten minutes in heavy traffic. That last second swerve to avoid a crack up can't wait for the brain to send the message to our feet and hands... Look out!!

Instinct reaction also applies in all sports. That last second cutback to avoid a tackle, the quick release in basketball, the quick catch and tag in baseball, to name a few, also can't wait for the brain to send the message.

ricksfolly

 

[Removable Mind]

We all live and react with our natural instincts. Without them, we wouldn't last ten minutes in heavy traffic. That last second swerve to avoid a crack up can't wait for the brain to send the message to our feet and hands... Look out!!

Instinct reaction also applies in all sports. That last second cutback to avoid a tackle, the quick release in basketball, the quick catch and tag in baseball, to name a few, also can't wait for the brain to send the message.

ricksfolly

I think instinct is necessary, but a lot of our behaviors aren't just perfunctory. In sports...tagging in a baseball, I would think be a trained reaction rather than instinctual. :shrug:

 

[Redress]

We all live and react with our natural instincts. Without them, we wouldn't last ten minutes in heavy traffic. That last second swerve to avoid a crack up can't wait for the brain to send the message to our feet and hands... Look out!!

Instinct reaction also applies in all sports. That last second cutback to avoid a tackle, the quick release in basketball, the quick catch and tag in baseball, to name a few, also can't wait for the brain to send the message.

ricksfolly

None of those examples are instinctive, they are all learned reactions.

 

[Goshin]

None of those examples are instinctive, they are all learned reactions.

Thank you.



Snatching your hand back from a hot stove is instinctive... hard-wired in fact. Flinching away from an impact is instinctive. The desire for food, drink, sex and shelter are instinctive.

Learned reactions are another thing entirely. When they've been performed often enough, the neural pathways become habituated to them and they may SEEM "automatic"... but they still aren't instinctive.

In martial arts, we called the point at which you no longer had to think about a technique to perform it, "internalizing the technique".

Nowadays it is popular to talk about "muscle memory"... which taken literally is nonsense, muscles don't have memory. It just means conditioning the muscles to certain movements that are difficult with out that conditioning, and habituating your neural pathways to the movements so you don't have to think about them. This still isn't "instinctive". Instinctive means inborn, hard-wired, genetically inbedded.

 

[spud_meister]

Snatching your hand back from a hot stove is instinctive... hard-wired in fact.

rof It's hardwired, but not instinctive, it's an automatic reaction triggered by the spinal chord, the brain plays no part.

 

[ricksfolly]

I think instinct is necessary, but a lot of our behaviors aren't just perfunctory. In sports...tagging in a baseball, I would think be a trained reaction rather than instinctual.

If they don't have the right kind of instinctive base to start with (muscle memory, competitive drive) training won't help.

ricksfolly

 

[spud_meister]

If they don't have the right kind of instinctive base to start with (muscle memory, competitive drive) training won't help.

ricksfolly

No-one can play basketball without training, human instincts are limited to early childhood and are reflexive behaviours in infants like sucking and squeezing. Muscle memory and competitive behaviour are learned.

 

[ricksfolly]

No-one can play basketball without training, human instincts are limited to early childhood and are reflexive behaviours in infants like sucking and squeezing. Muscle memory and competitive behaviour are learned.

My opinion vs your opinion and since none of this can be proved, it's time to move on.

ricksfolly