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Inflation surges 7% in December, highest rate in 40 years

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Thank goodness that many staunch progressive democrat Biden voters are seeking out grass roots solutions to the crushing inflation issue by completely eliminating the need for currency .
Economic justice .
You have taught your voters well Mr. President .
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To repeat what has already been said, there aren't any policies that Biden passed that is causing inflation. Biden critics claim that the American Rescue Plan is overheating the economy by giving people money, who are then boosting demand beyond capacity. However, the ARP gave states money that is being spent slowly and current GDP is still below potential GDP.

Moreover, inflation is happening worldwide, clearly an indication that it has nothing to do with American policies. Oil prices are up worldwide. Since Americans rely upon gasoline more than Europeans, our energy inflation is higher.
 

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Thank goodness that many staunch progressive democrat Biden voters are seeking out grass roots solutions to the crushing inflation issue by completely eliminating the need for currency .
Economic justice .
You have taught your voters well Mr. President .
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Did Biden policies or progressive Democrats encourage train thieves? Who knew?
 

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To repeat what has already been said, there aren't any policies that Biden passed that is causing inflation. Biden critics claim that the American Rescue Plan is overheating the economy by giving people money, who are then boosting demand beyond capacity. However, the ARP gave states money that is being spent slowly and current GDP is still below potential GDP.

Moreover, inflation is happening worldwide, clearly an indication that it has nothing to do with American policies. Oil prices are up worldwide. Since Americans rely upon gasoline more than Europeans, our energy inflation is higher.
Sorry MTA but your loyalty to liberalism and Biden defies logic and common sense. You won't answer any basic questions about that loyalty nor define why you still support Biden when the vast majority now don't. Still waiting for you to explain to us why we have the highest inflation in 40 years and of course what Biden is doing about it. Seems that understanding inflation is a problem for you as well
 

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Did Biden policies or progressive Democrats encourage train thieves? Who knew?
I believe those pictures are train tracks in California showing all the garbage spued in that bastion of liberalism where the only real thieves are the Democrats in control of the state for the past almost 60 years. Why anyone would want the nation to be like California with the high cost of living and social disaster is beyond comprehension.
 

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Sorry MTA but your loyalty to liberalism and Biden defies logic and common sense. You won't answer any basic questions about that loyalty nor define why you still support Biden when the vast majority now don't. Still waiting for you to explain to us why we have the highest inflation in 40 years and of course what Biden is doing about it. Seems that understanding inflation is a problem for you as well
That's all you are, ad hominem attacks -- attacking "liberalism" which had nothing to do with what I actually wrote ("To repeat what has already been said, there aren't any policies that Biden passed that is causing inflation. Biden critics claim that the American Rescue Plan is overheating the economy by giving people money, who are then boosting demand beyond capacity. However, the ARP gave states money that is being spent slowly and current GDP is still below potential GDP.

Moreover, inflation is happening worldwide, clearly an indication that it has nothing to do with American policies. Oil prices are up worldwide. Since Americans rely upon gasoline more than Europeans, our energy inflation is higher.")

Con, this may come as a shock to you, but no poster has a duty to answer your inane questions, especially when they have been asked and answered ad nauseam in multiple threads and posts.
 

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Your post is a laughing stock. The blue states subsidize red states. Why? Because the red states are generally the poorest states in the union.

Of the 10 poorest states, by per capita income, 9 are red states. Of the 10 richest by the same measure, 8 are blue.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_income

Because the red states are generally the poorest states in the union.
Finish the story

They also have some of the HIGHEST BLACK popualtion


The blue states subsidize red states.

So poor Blue state of New Mexico is subsidizing RED powerhouse Texas?
 

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I believe those pictures are train tracks in California showing all the garbage spued in that bastion of liberalism where the only real thieves are the Democrats in control of the state for the past almost 60 years. Why anyone would want the nation to be like California with the high cost of living and social disaster is beyond comprehension.
Have you surveyed the political affiliation of train thieves and determined that they are liberal Democrats? I'd like to see your data. Failing that, you are just projecting.

The picture is indeed L.A. because ships are unloaded in California and then shipped by train to all parts of the country. For some reason, Union Pacific hasn't provided security for the cargo and L.A. police do not patrol the train yards. And blaming it on "Democrats in control of the state for the past almost 60 years," is mere stupidity. This is from a news article: "National data obtained by the I-Team shows that California is the top-targeted state for cargo thieves, followed by Texas and Florida." I didn't realize that Texas and Florida were bastions of liberalism.

There is a good reason you are looked upon in this forum as a cartoon character.
 

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That's all you are, ad hominem attacks -- attacking "liberalism" which had nothing to do with what I actually wrote ("To repeat what has already been said, there aren't any policies that Biden passed that is causing inflation. Biden critics claim that the American Rescue Plan is overheating the economy by giving people money, who are then boosting demand beyond capacity. However, the ARP gave states money that is being spent slowly and current GDP is still below potential GDP.

Moreover, inflation is happening worldwide, clearly an indication that it has nothing to do with American policies. Oil prices are up worldwide. Since Americans rely upon gasoline more than Europeans, our energy inflation is higher.
")

Con, this may come as a shock to you, but no poster has a duty to answer your inane questions, especially when they have been asked and answered ad nauseam in multiple threads and posts.
You really don't like it when I point out the hypocrisy and failures of liberalism do you? What personal attacks? Withstood 4 years of personal attacks during the Trump term but attacking the Biden results doesn't sit well with you. The ARP is a joke, a massive spending spree that does indeed spur inflation as it is over a trillion dollars of "free money" put into the economy. anyone who does see that as inflationary is stunningly ignorant of reality. It is amazing just how great the Biden economy is requiring massive gov't spending when the reality is that is nothing more than vote buying from a Democrat Party in decline and failure.

You make a lot of excuses for the failures of liberalism with the big one now world recession. Countries whose economies are dependent on the gov't are always going to have massive inflation which you see to want in this country. Do you have a solution for the massive inflation we have now? I have and you don't like it.

I have answered ever direct question give me and what I find stunning is how the demand for gasoline is a major cause of inflation when the demand for gasoline was strong during the first three years of Trump. Care to point out the inflation rates 2017-2019? Of course not as it destroys your narrative. Inflation is all about supply and demand and Biden is doing nothing to prmote supply
 

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Have you surveyed the political affiliation of train thieves and determined that they are liberal Democrats? I'd like to see your data. Failing that, you are just projecting.

The picture is indeed L.A. because ships are unloaded in California and then shipped by train to all parts of the country. For some reason, Union Pacific hasn't provided security for the cargo and L.A. police do not patrol the train yards. And blaming it on "Democrats in control of the state for the past almost 60 years," is mere stupidity. This is from a news article: "National data obtained by the I-Team shows that California is the top-targeted state for cargo thieves, followed by Texas and Florida." I didn't realize that Texas and Florida were bastions of liberalism.

There is a good reason you are looked upon in this forum as a cartoon character.
Yep, the bastion of liberalism with trash all over the place, 1.3 million unemployed, 6.9% unemployment rate and this is what you want the rest of the country to be like.

Typical liberal personal attack when the narrative is destroyed. So Democrat control of the state for 60 years isn't reality? Who then is responsible for the California results?
 

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Yep but not nearly as many as the blue states, will remind you that your state is 6.6% unemployment when the nation is at 3.9. Liberals always take credit for good results and pass off blame for bad ones. You do that well.
Odd then that the data show otherwise:

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Interestingly enough, none of the blue states you whinge about are anywhere on the list. Maybe you should complain more about the states topping this list than the ones you always focus on. You should also wonder why California has a lower welfare recipients per capita than Florida or Texas.
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Nice liberal spin was talking about Trump and gave you the reasons why the poll numbers were low, you won't do that for Biden
It was you deflecting about the relevance of polls; the very same ones you now think matter. It's not spin, it's clear as day. Your post is the spin because rather than own up to it, you're going to do all sorts of mental gymnastics or attempt to dodge the subject.

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Whats heavily populate RED Black state of Mississippi ranked?

Take your time
Your argument relies upon a statistical assertion, namely, that states with high black populations are the poor states.
Let's look at that. The poorest ten states are Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico, Kentucky, Arkansas, West Virginia, Alabama, Oklahoma, Tennessee, South Carolina.

Black population p% in high poverty states:
Mississippi - 37.8%
Louisiana - 32.8%
New Mexico - 1.9%
Kentucky - 8.07%
Arkansas - 15.7%
West Virginia - 3.69%
Alabama - 26.8%
Oklahoma - 7.6%
Tennessee - 17.1%
South Carolina - 26.77%

Black population p% in low poverty states:
New Hampshire - 2%
Utah - 1.5%
Maryland - 31.5%
Minnesota - 7%
New Jersey - 15.1%
Colorado - 4.6%
Hawaii - 1.83%
Massachusetts - 13.4%
Washington - 4.4%
Virginia - 20%

There is a strong relationship between between poverty and a state being red or blue, where red states have high poverty and blue states have low poverty.

The relationship between race and state poverty is correlated but weak (large standard deviation by percent), as evident by the fact that New Mexico is the 3rd poorest and has 1.9% black people and Utah is the second lowest poverty, with roughly the same black p%, while Maryland has a high black population and has a low poverty rate.
 

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Your argument relies upon a statistical assertion, namely, that states with high black populations are the poor states.

Focus

Poor Red states
 

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That's all you are, ad hominem attacks -- attacking "liberalism" which had nothing to do with what I actually wrote ("To repeat what has already been said, there aren't any policies that Biden passed that is causing inflation. Biden critics claim that the American Rescue Plan is overheating the economy by giving people money, who are then boosting demand beyond capacity. However, the ARP gave states money that is being spent slowly and current GDP is still below potential GDP.

Moreover, inflation is happening worldwide, clearly an indication that it has nothing to do with American policies. Oil prices are up worldwide. Since Americans rely upon gasoline more than Europeans, our energy inflation is higher.")

Con, this may come as a shock to you, but no poster has a duty to answer your inane questions, especially when they have been asked and answered ad nauseam in multiple threads and posts.
The right is taking this problem and trying to twist it to make Biden look bad just like they did the XL pipeline thing
in the pipeline situation like this one they are telling people have truths and lies.
When Biden Came in he shut down the XL pipeline that is true and the Right started crying Biden shut down a oil pipeline well they never told the people that that pipeline was only 8% complete and wouldn't be finished being built for several years
so instead of looking up info on it people thought that the pipeline was actually delivering oil and that was why supplies went down and prices went up
YEP the great trick of the right tell half truths and make things sound like they are all Biden's fault when he had very little control over any thing
Have a nice day
 

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Black population p% in high poverty states:
Mississippi - 37.8%
Louisiana - 32.8%
New Mexico - 1.9%
Kentucky - 8.07%
Arkansas - 15.7%
West Virginia - 3.69%
Alabama - 26.8%
Oklahoma - 7.6%
Tennessee - 17.1%
South Carolina - 26.77%

Lets see, 6 out of 4 poorest RED states have high black populations

Thanks for proving my point
 

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Black population p% in high poverty states:
Mississippi - 37.8%
Louisiana - 32.8%
New Mexico - 1.9%
Kentucky - 8.07%
Arkansas - 15.7%
West Virginia - 3.69%
Alabama - 26.8%
Oklahoma - 7.6%
Tennessee - 17.1%
South Carolina - 26.77%

Lets see, 6 out of 4 poorest RED states have high black populations

Thanks for proving my point
A lack of equal protection of the at-will employment laws creates a downward pressure on wages to the extent it results in any poverty.

A change in market equilibrium should result in better market efficiency.

Simply compensating labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment will help the private sector optimize for new market conditions in a market friendly manner under our form of Capitalism.
 

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A lack of equal protection of the at-will employment laws creates a downward pressure on wages to the extent it results in any poverty.

A change in market equilibrium should result in better market efficiency.

Simply compensating labor for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment will help the private sector optimize for new market conditions.
Scapegoat alert
 
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