- Jun 20, 2018
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- Miami, FL
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Here is the definition of a RepublicNo. Just no. There is an english language that uses common definitions, try and use it.
We agreed to that, based on common values and ethics. It was an individual choice, not foisted upon us by some made up definition of the word "family". I chose to marry my wife, and with that I accepted the responsibilities. I choose to help people around me based on their needs and merits. I am not beholden to some view of forced perpetual charity by some back asswards definition of family.
Of course, I have to abide by the laws of the land. My entire point is that when you push that envelope too far with your righteous greed then you will find it counter productive, as every nation who has tried in the past has learned. Raise my taxes to 99%, do you think I will pay them? No. I will move my money into a safe haven, now you get nothing. If you try to pass a law to prevent that, then I will leave the country entirely, I have dual citizenship. This is all exactly what has happened in other nations. When you try to skin the sheep it just dies and leaves you worse off.
Absolutely not. I'm not sure how your relationships work, but we communicate. If my wife is doing something I find to be a particularly poor choice, or vice versa, we talk about it and come to common ground. That is not the same thing as demanding my taxes go up to provide more welfare for people making bad choices.
This entire analogy is the dumbest thing I have heard in a long while, so congrats on that. You can try and pass whatever law you want, you are right, and your view of that is incredibly stupid. You are cutting off your nose in spite of your face. Stick it to the wealthy, the people paying 80% of the taxes. Then they leave, they take their money, they take their tax revenue, and they leave. Best case? They change their behavior, restructure their earnings, invest elsewhere, and just damage the economy and tax receipts.
There is another thing you are missing, the constitution, and you have to respect that whether you like it or not. You see, that little piece of paper has some pretty firm and tight rules to it. Among them is a constitutional prohibition on taxing wealth. So, unless want to amend it, good luck with achieving your goals.
It's a republic, go back to middle school civics.
You think the constitution is the will of the majority? No. It is the founding document of the Republic that guarantees specific rights, restrictions, and provisions. It isn't a "flexible living document" like your ilk want it to be, it is designed to set a groundwork. It requires enormous effort to amend, for good and specific reason.
Republic: "A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives...
Power is held by the people and and their elected representatives is basically what I have been saying all along. The elected representatives have the power to vote as a group to change the laws. You (as an American living in a state) have elected your representatives and have agreed to live (and follow) the laws that they have passed. You are committed, as an American citizen, to adhere to what has been decided by the group (Congress).
Congress is our family and we as members of that family have given an oath to follow them, which in turn they are following the Constitution that our forefathers created.
There is nothing different to what I have been saying. This is a marriage and since you are an American, you have given an oath to follow the rules (with good and bad things attached). You can get a divorce if you want, by giving up your citizenship and going to live in another country. As long as you are an American, you have to follow what Congress (and the Constitution) tells you to do.
As far as "Pushing the envelope with your righteous greed", that applies more to what you are doing than what I am doing. Righteous greed is what the rich people are doing. They are saying "I have the right to go as far as I want no matter who gets hurt, as long as I follow the laws in place". That is righteous greed in definition because it is for the benefit of "one" person and not the benefit of all (the nation). How you can say that making it fair for all is "righteous greed" is beyond my ability to understand as there is no one that is trying to accomplish something for "themselves" but for all Americans. That is against the definition of the word "greed".
I do not understand how you cannot understand this as what I am saying is not opinion but definition of the facts.
As such, I am going to stop trying. I cannot talk to anyone that is "blind by choice"