Take it you're not a big fan of property rights then, either.
Tell me, what kind of rights do you support, Libertarian?
Well I'm sure that is how a civilized society works.
Who said anything about fairness? In terms of fairness, it makes no sense to say its more fair to allow the woman to kill whatever she pleases than to make her carry the child to term.
If it is present inside your body against your wishes, its very presence is a violation.
Well I'm sure that is how a civilized society works.
Who said anything about fairness? In terms of fairness, it makes no sense to say its more fair to allow the woman to kill whatever she pleases than to make her carry the child to term.
There is a point at which "it" isn't "inside your body" but a part of your body. Does the left arm have greater rights than the right arm? If not how does one part of the body have a right over another?
Yes, and that is why civilized societies make abortions legally accessible.
Abortion is not about allowing a woman to kill whatever she pleases than to make her carry the child to term.
Abortion is about a woman making a willful choice to terminate a pregnancy for whyever reason she chooses.
The word "civilized" in this case would detail protecting life from the aggression of others. What you are talking about is the exact opposite of that.
Which as I said, is giving her a pass to kill the child for whatever way she chooses. I don't really understand why you decided to argue my point, but ok.
If I cannot remove unwanted organisms from my body, I do not have control over my body.
1.)The word "civilized" in this case would detail protecting life from the aggression of others. What you are talking about is the exact opposite of that.
2.)Which as I said, is giving her a pass to kill the child for whatever way she chooses. I don't really understand why you decided to argue my point, but ok.
No, it's giving her a pass to terminate a pregnancy she doesn't want.
No, what I am talking about is allowing women to live their lives as they choose.
No, it's giving her a pass to terminate a pregnancy she doesn't want.
Everything changes when it happens to YOU.
I wish more GOP policitians felt this strongly.
Unfortunately most GOP politicians campaign as pro-life and then completely forget about the issue once they are inaugerated.
Yes, and in order to do that they are getting a pass to inflict violence on others. The only way that this could be civilized is if she was going to die without doing it. Convenience, in which you are arguing for, is just permitting violence for nothing more than the chance to inflict violence.
Which is giving her a pass to kill the child, just because she doesn't want it around.
I am truly a slave of the state - the government forces me to refrain from killing you right now.
:roll:
my unplanned kid is awesome too and i got full sole custody.No, it really didn't. If you abandon your principles the moment they become inconvenient, you never had principles. We weren't ready and we had some hard times making ends meet.
How awesome is my unplanned kid? So awesome.
Yes, and in order to do that they are getting a pass to inflict violence on others. The only way that this could be civilized is if she was going to die without doing it. Convenience, in which you are arguing for, is just permitting violence for nothing more than the chance to inflict violence.
Which is giving her a pass to kill the child, just because she doesn't want it around.
my unplanned kid is awesome too and i got full sole custody.
guess what, i still wanted her to get an abortion at the time
1069 for all her failings always had an interesting argument about this.
And it was basically, especially in the case of rape.
If the government can force you to carry that organism inside of you against your will, force you to carry it to term, force you to give birth to it and then force you to raise it, than essentially it means women have no bodily Sovereignty whatsoever and were basically child bearers of the state.
1.)so stripping a woman of rights, freedoms and liberties and then forcing her to risk her life and health against her will is not an aggression?
riiiiiiiiiiiiight
2.)and not giving her the choice is giving the government a pass to kill her :shrug:
she will be forced to risk her life
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