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Incompetent BIG Government Is On Exhibit Again

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Republicans correctly complain that America has a President that refuses to call Islamic terrorism, “Islamic terrorism.” His only answer for Islamic terrorist murders in America is more gun laws to further restrict the law-abiding from purchasing their right to defend themselves.


Barrack Obama is an incompetent clueless wasted figurehead clueless on “the rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” His Constitutional scholarship is a joke!


On the other hand we have the RINO Republican controlled Congress crying daily for our incompetent President to declare war on Islamic terrorism. The RINOs should read the Constitution, “The Congress shall have the power to declare war.”


So where’s Speaker Ryan and Senate leader McConnell? Where’s their attention for their Republican colleagues cry for a declaration of war? Where’s the joint Congressional debate for and opposed to that declaration?


The answer is “NOWHERE!” They don’t govern. They don’t read the Constitution. They puke their oath of office out, never intending to execute any loyalty to it because they are clueless of its mandate.
 

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In defense of the Republicans, who do we declare war on? Has any country declared war on disparate terrorists throughout the entire globe? The old idea of declaring war just doesn't work in this case. We can't go around violating the sovereignty of every country where terrorists may be. We can't bomb the entire world in order to eliminate small pockets of terrorism. Heck, we don't even have the resources to take on every enemy country who may be lending support to terrorists.

As far as what Obama says or doesn't say, it doesn't change whether or not terrorists are going to attack. Tough talk may make some feel better, but it doesn't change a thing. Our country has taken military action against terrorists during the entirety of Obama's administration. Obama does not want to slur an entire religion for the acts of those he believes do not truly represent that religion. I don't have a problem with that. It doesn't mean he isn't taking action against terrorism.
 

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Uttering the words "Islamic Extremism" or "Islamic Terrorism" really isnt gonna change anything...
 

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Government power is a much bigger problem than size, (although size ia a problem too.).

Without an All Powerful Government a Holocaust, Gulag or similar situation is impossible to achieve. The Problem with Socialism even so called Democratic Socialism is it requires a large all powerful government to function, not even Bernie denies this. Free Market Capitalism on the other hand functions best with a limited power government, with a powerful government it can get turned to corny capitalism or fascism.

Government is made up of people and eventually bad people come along. By all accounts Lenin was sickened by the murderous actions of Stalin, but it was the all powerful government that Lenin created that enabled Stalin to murder 70 million people. A more recent example is Bush gave the government more power by creating the Patriot Act. There is no evident he ever used it for any other purpose than to fight terrorists. Obama renewed and expanded the power of the Patriot Act. Both He and Hillary have long histories of using government power including the PA against their political enemies.
 

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Republicans correctly complain that America has a President that refuses to call Islamic terrorism, “Islamic terrorism.”

The Queen of Corruption has the same problem. She's incapable of correctly identifying those responsible.

Barrack Obama is an incompetent clueless wasted figurehead clueless on “the rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” His Constitutional scholarship is a joke!

BO is many things, but incompetent is not one of them, imho. BO is a classic leftist. He hates our country and desires to inflict as much pain and chaos as possible on it.
 

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The Queen of Corruption has the same problem. She's incapable of correctly identifying those responsible.



BO is many things, but incompetent is not one of them, imho. BO is a classic leftist. He hates our country and desires to inflict as much pain and chaos as possible on it.

Complete and utter nonsense with zero evidence to back it. Obama is not a leftist and he loves his country. There are opinions and then there are baseless slurs. Yours is the latter.
 

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Complete and utter nonsense with zero evidence to back it. Obama is not a leftist and he loves his country. There are opinions and then there are baseless slurs. Yours is the latter.

It's not complete nonsense. Look at what he's done over the last 7+ years. Nothing but create chaos in an attempt at destroying the nation.
 

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Republicans correctly complain that America has a President that refuses to call Islamic terrorism, “Islamic terrorism.” His only answer for Islamic terrorist murders in America is more gun laws to further restrict the law-abiding from purchasing their right to defend themselves.


Barrack Obama is an incompetent clueless wasted figurehead clueless on “the rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” His Constitutional scholarship is a joke!


On the other hand we have the RINO Republican controlled Congress crying daily for our incompetent President to declare war on Islamic terrorism. The RINOs should read the Constitution, “The Congress shall have the power to declare war.”


So where’s Speaker Ryan and Senate leader McConnell? Where’s their attention for their Republican colleagues cry for a declaration of war? Where’s the joint Congressional debate for and opposed to that declaration?


The answer is “NOWHERE!” They don’t govern. They don’t read the Constitution. They puke their oath of office out, never intending to execute any loyalty to it because they are clueless of its mandate.

Of course you're full of ****. The very first thing he said is that this was an act of terror and an act of hate. Ohhhh, I get it. If he doesn't specify "Islamic" terrorism, he has somehow misrepresented the facts, in your biased view. I see, now. You care less that this was terrorism and more that it justifies your bigotry. Well, why didn't you just say so.

You know what, though. I doubt very much that if a christian had shot up that club that Obama would have called it "christian" terrorism. I say that because when the last christian terrorist shot up a Planned Parenthood, he didn't specify which imaginary god the terrorist was working for. Could it be- and this is just conjecture- that Obama doesn't consider terrorism to be either a Muslim or a Christian thing, but a crime without any rational ties to religion? It's possible.

Hey, I agree with you, let's start calling these crimes what they are, acts of faith. I'm tired of all of the faiths getting to disassociate themselves from the harm they cause. So, next time a christian rapes some child, let's call it "christian pedophilia" as a more accurate description of the REAL problem. If a Hindu gets caught with a prostitute, a clear case of "Hindu soliciting" should be how its described. Yes, this will really serve to make clear how faith, and the faithful, are affecting our society.

All of the religious labels aside, your post is typical of someone who hasn't thought much about...anything. You seem to want to attack even your own "leadership" for not being as rabidly anti-muslim as yourself. It just goes to show that there's an intelligence spectrum on the right and that Republicans of average intelligence are as unqualified to represent intelligent liberals as they are unqualified to represent the dregs of right-wing hatred. I propose that we IQ test prospective congresspersons so that we can guaranty that some of them are dumb enough to truly represent the twenty five percent who share your opinions.
 

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In defense of the Republicans, who do we declare war on? Has any country declared war on disparate terrorists throughout the entire globe? The old idea of declaring war just doesn't work in this case. We can't go around violating the sovereignty of every country where terrorists may be. We can't bomb the entire world in order to eliminate small pockets of terrorism. Heck, we don't even have the resources to take on every enemy country who may be lending support to terrorists.

If you want to defend the Republicans, then first you better ask them why they're calling on Obama to say "Islamic Terrorism" and calling on him to declare war on Islamic Terrorism.

Furthermore, There's no place in the Constitution that requires the Congress to only declare war on a nation or any particular thing. "The Congress shall have the power to declare war" (Article One, Section Eight) Congress can declare war on a ham sandwich. No President ever had the constitutional authority to declare war. That act is reserved constitutionally for the Congress.

As far as what Obama says or doesn't say, it doesn't change whether or not terrorists are going to attack. Tough talk may make some feel better, but it doesn't change a thing. Our country has taken military action against terrorists during the entirety of Obama's administration. Obama does not want to slur an entire religion for the acts of those he believes do not truly represent that religion. I don't have a problem with that. It doesn't mean he isn't taking action against terrorism.

War powers acts that allow Presidents to use military actions without a congressional declaration of war are unconstitutional. There's no authority in the Constitution for any President to use military power without a congressional declaration of war. There's no authority in the Constitution for the Congress to issue a war powers act to any President without amending the Constitution therefor. There's no authority in the Constitution for the Congress to issue a resolution allowing any President to use military power without a congressional declaration of war.

Members of Congress and Presidents are sworn by oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. Instead they violate it!
 

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If you want to defend the Republicans, then first you better ask them why they're calling on Obama to say "Islamic Terrorism" and calling on him to declare war on Islamic Terrorism.

Furthermore, There's no place in the Constitution that requires the Congress to only declare war on a nation or any particular thing. "The Congress shall have the power to declare war" (Article One, Section Eight) Congress can declare war on a ham sandwich. No President ever had the constitutional authority to declare war. That act is reserved constitutionally for the Congress.



War powers acts that allow Presidents to use military actions without a congressional declaration of war are unconstitutional. There's no authority in the Constitution for any President to use military power without a congressional declaration of war. There's no authority in the Constitution for the Congress to issue a war powers act to any President without amending the Constitution therefor. There's no authority in the Constitution for the Congress to issue a resolution allowing any President to use military power without a congressional declaration of war.

Members of Congress and Presidents are sworn by oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. Instead they violate it!

So, who do they declare war on?
 

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It's just denying it exist, huh?

No, it is not denying it exists. Obama is well aware of the terrorism and who is carrying out. Your claim that his not saying the words is the same as denying its existence is incorrect. One does not have to say certain words to know that something exists. This whole denial claim holds no water.
 

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Complete and utter nonsense with zero evidence to back it. Obama is not a leftist and he loves his country. There are opinions and then there are baseless slurs. Yours is the latter.

Leftist adore gun laws and social welfare to keep blacks on the government plantation reliant on leftist bribery payments and supplying them public housing in the leftist Democrat slave quarters.

That makes Obama a "LEFTIST!"
 

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Leftist adore gun laws and social welfare to keep blacks on the government plantation reliant on leftist bribery payments and supplying them public housing in the leftist Democrat slave quarters.

That makes Obama a "LEFTIST!"

Your far out opinion on "leftists" is noted and given the appropriate weight it deserves.
 

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So, who do they declare war on?


The Republicans are calling for a war on "ISLAMIC TERRORISM." I'll leave it to you to defend the Republicans as you've sworn to do.
 

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No, it is not denying it exists. Obama is well aware of the terrorism and who is carrying out. Your claim that his not saying the words is the same as denying its existence is incorrect. One does not have to say certain words to know that something exists. This whole denial claim holds no water.

Is that an "independent" theory, or a pathetic "leftist" excuse for the oh so apparent?
 

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Is that an "independent" theory, or a pathetic "leftist" excuse for the oh so apparent?

It is a simple fact based on the fact that the Obama administration has been fighting Islamic terrorists for the entirety of his time as President. Check the news headlines once in a while and this will be verified as factual.
 

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The Republicans are calling for a war on "ISLAMIC TERRORISM." I'll leave it to you to defend the Republicans as you've sworn to do.

That is a very broad based declaration of war. Where should our war efforts be focused in order to defeat this enemy?
 

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Republicans correctly complain that America has a President that refuses to call Islamic terrorism, “Islamic terrorism.”
Sorry, but... wrong.

We don't know for certain yet what motivated Omar Mateen. He reportedly patronized Pulse on a regular basis, and used Grindr (a gay dating app). He name-checked two different Islamist movements that not only have very different religious positions and ideologies, but are literally fighting each other (ISIL and al-Nusra). He probably knew as little about Islamist organizations as the average American -- i.e. next to nothing.

Thus, despite living in an era where people expect to have the full story 30 seconds after it happens, it is wise for every official not to claim they know motive, before that's established.

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His only answer for Islamic terrorist murders in America is more gun laws to further restrict the law-abiding from purchasing their right to defend themselves.
Meaning what? From now on, you're going to go to the club on a Saturday night toting an M-16?


Barrack Obama is an incompetent clueless wasted figurehead clueless on “the rights of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” His Constitutional scholarship is a joke!
Right-winger complaining about Obama no matter what he's done? Must be Tuesday.


On the other hand we have the RINO Republican controlled Congress crying daily for our incompetent President to declare war on Islamic terrorism. The RINOs should read the Constitution, “The Congress shall have the power to declare war.”
Uh, yeah, they did that years ago; it's the AUMF. (I have no problems with an explicit renewal or update of the AUMF.)

We are also bombing the living snot out of ISIL. That's why they are committing these terrorist acts. Once upon a time -- as in, about 2 years ago -- their goal was to seize territory and set up an actual Islamist state. That's now impossible, since we are bombing them on a regular basis. Terrorism is the tactic of losers, who are too weak to do anything other than cause fear, and provoke a response.

More importantly, terrorism is a tactic, and one not limited to Muslims -- e.g. Baader Meinhof, Weather Underground, Tim McVeigh, Aum Shinrikyo, the IRA, Tamil Tigers, the list goes on. Even if we killed every single Islamist on earth without provoking a reaction, someone else will come along and shoot up a shopping mall, and we won't see it coming. Waging war on a tactic is absurd, and granting more power to the federal government in a Quixotic quest to stop a tactic is basically like giving law enforcement carte blanche to do whatever they want.

Be careful what you ask for.
 
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