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Incompetence Beyond a Reasonable Doubt

Luckyone

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Let's for the moment put aside all the crooked things that Trump has done that he cannot be indicted for at this time. As such, the crimes that he has already perpetrated cannot yet be judged beyond a reasonable doubt, at least not legally. Nonetheless, incompetence is something totally different. Here it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Let's start by listing some of the incompetent things he has done:

1) His statement made over 2 years ago when on the campaign trail in which he said "I alone can do it". It is impossible to run a country such as the U.S. by oneself.
2) His decision to start a Trade War with China, which so far has not brought anything positive to the U.S.
3) His getting rid of all people that he chose and were competent but that did not agree with him.
4) His choosing people to drain the swamp that have been bigger swamp people that were there before (Pruitt, Price, Icahn, etc)
5) His surrounding himself with "yes" men even though he himself does not study/read or know anything himself.
6) His giving credence to words of known liars such as Putin and Kim Jong-un against the careful and complete investigations or our own intelligence community.
7) His making of decisions over the advice of the competent people running those departments (such as Mathis).
8) His making decisions without even consulting those people in charge of those departments.
9) His choosing of people not qualified for the positions chosen (Whitaker, Pruitt to name a few)
10) His changing of his mind from one minute to the next, meaning that he does not have a clear idea of what he is doing.

There are many more examples of incompetency in his administration but these 10 mentioned above are enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt his incompetency.
 
let's for the moment put aside all the crooked things that trump has done that he cannot be indicted for at this time. As such, the crimes that he has already perpetrated cannot yet be judged beyond a reasonable doubt, at least not legally. Nonetheless, incompetence is something totally different. Here it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Let's start by listing some of the incompetent things he has done:

1) his statement made over 2 years ago when on the campaign trail in which he said "i alone can do it". It is impossible to run a country such as the u.s. By oneself.
2) his decision to start a trade war with china, which so far has not brought anything positive to the u.s.
3) his getting rid of all people that he chose and were competent but that did not agree with him.
4) his choosing people to drain the swamp that have been bigger swamp people that were there before (pruitt, price, icahn, etc)
5) his surrounding himself with "yes" men even though he himself does not study/read or know anything himself.
6) his giving credence to words of known liars such as putin and kim jong-un against the careful and complete investigations or our own intelligence community.
7) his making of decisions over the advice of the competent people running those departments (such as mathis).
8) his making decisions without even consulting those people in charge of those departments.
9) his choosing of people not qualified for the positions chosen (whitaker, pruitt to name a few)
10) his changing of his mind from one minute to the next, meaning that he does not have a clear idea of what he is doing.

There are many more examples of incompetency in his administration but these 10 mentioned above are enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt his incompetency.

tds!!
 
Let's for the moment put aside all the crooked things that Trump has done that he cannot be indicted for at this time. As such, the crimes that he has already perpetrated cannot yet be judged beyond a reasonable doubt, at least not legally. Nonetheless, incompetence is something totally different. Here it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Let's start by listing some of the incompetent things he has done:

1) His statement made over 2 years ago when on the campaign trail in which he said "I alone can do it". It is impossible to run a country such as the U.S. by oneself.
2) His decision to start a Trade War with China, which so far has not brought anything positive to the U.S.
3) His getting rid of all people that he chose and were competent but that did not agree with him.
4) His choosing people to drain the swamp that have been bigger swamp people that were there before (Pruitt, Price, Icahn, etc)
5) His surrounding himself with "yes" men even though he himself does not study/read or know anything himself.
6) His giving credence to words of known liars such as Putin and Kim Jong-un against the careful and complete investigations or our own intelligence community.
7) His making of decisions over the advice of the competent people running those departments (such as Mathis).
8) His making decisions without even consulting those people in charge of those departments.
9) His choosing of people not qualified for the positions chosen (Whitaker, Pruitt to name a few)
10) His changing of his mind from one minute to the next, meaning that he does not have a clear idea of what he is doing.

There are many more examples of incompetency in his administration but these 10 mentioned above are enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt his incompetency.

Yeah, but OBAMA, HILLERY, URANIUM ONE....BENGHAZI!!111!!!

(I thought I would get the inevitable baloney from the cultists out of the way)
 
They are all your rabid opinions. You stated no facts to refute. It's just another TDS troll thread.

No, they are not opinions. They are FACTS. Tell me which one of the 10 that I wrote is not able to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Is TDS the only answer you have? Is reality not real to you? Do you live in a fantasy of your own making? Are you blind and Deaf?
 
Let's for the moment put aside all the crooked things that Trump has done that he cannot be indicted for at this time. As such, the crimes that he has already perpetrated cannot yet be judged beyond a reasonable doubt, at least not legally. Nonetheless, incompetence is something totally different. Here it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Let's start by listing some of the incompetent things he has done:

1) His statement made over 2 years ago when on the campaign trail in which he said "I alone can do it". It is impossible to run a country such as the U.S. by oneself.
2) His decision to start a Trade War with China, which so far has not brought anything positive to the U.S.
3) His getting rid of all people that he chose and were competent but that did not agree with him.
4) His choosing people to drain the swamp that have been bigger swamp people that were there before (Pruitt, Price, Icahn, etc)
5) His surrounding himself with "yes" men even though he himself does not study/read or know anything himself.
6) His giving credence to words of known liars such as Putin and Kim Jong-un against the careful and complete investigations or our own intelligence community.
7) His making of decisions over the advice of the competent people running those departments (such as Mathis).
8) His making decisions without even consulting those people in charge of those departments.
9) His choosing of people not qualified for the positions chosen (Whitaker, Pruitt to name a few)

10) His changing of his mind from one minute to the next, meaning that he does not have a clear idea of what he is doing.

There are many more examples of incompetency in his administration but these 10 mentioned above are enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt his incompetency.

Hmm... would it be best to consult the incompetent appointees or to just skip that step?
 
No, they are not opinions. They are FACTS. Tell me which one of the 10 that I wrote is not able to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Is TDS the only answer you have? Is reality not real to you? Do you live in a fantasy of your own making? Are you blind and Deaf?

They are all your rabid opinions. You stated no facts to refute. It's just another TDS troll thread.
 
Hmm... would it be best to consult the incompetent appointees or to just skip that step?

What are you saying? The incompetence appointees have already been consulted and they ALL agree on the incompetence. On the other side, there is Trump and his supporters that can only say "tds" to anything that doesn't comport with that they are thinking.
 
What are you saying? The incompetence appointees have already been consulted and they ALL agree on the incompetence. On the other side, there is Trump and his supporters that can only say "tds" to anything that doesn't comport with that they are thinking.

Your basic argument is that Trump should cave to those that disagree with him. Somehow, I doubt that you give demorats the same advice.
 
They are all your rabid opinions. You stated no facts to refute. It's just another TDS troll thread.

I understand now.

Trump did not say that he alone could do it.
He did not start a Trade War with China that so far has not worked out
He has not fired people that he originally hired as the "best of the best"
He did not hire Swamp dwellers like Pruitt, Scott and Icahn that were in it for themselves
He has not surrounded himself with "yes" men
He has not given more credence to Putin and Kim Jong-un than his own intelligence people
He has not gone over the heads of the people that he put in charge of their departments and made decisions without consulting them
He has not chosen incompetent people for positions they have no experience for
He has not changed him mind from one minute to the next over important issues

These are my opinions alone and not based on fact/history right?

As I said, you need to see an eye and ear specialist as you are showing clear signs of blindness and lack of hearing.
 
Your basic argument is that Trump should cave to those that disagree with him. Somehow, I doubt that you give demorats the same advice.

Since you seem to think that you are knowledgeable enough to make the statement that he should not cave in to those that disagree with him, please make the supporting points that he is doing what is right by going against their opinions.

Also keep in mind than these people are and were not against him. They were all Republicans that he himself chose as being the best of the best. As such, please educate me as to why "he should not listen to them?"
 
Since you seem to think that you are knowledgeable enough to make the statement that he should not cave in to those that disagree with him, please make the supporting points that he is doing what is right by going against their opinions.

Also keep in mind than these people are and were not against him. They were all Republicans that he himself chose as being the best of the best. As such, please educate me as to why "he should not listen to them?"

It is your opinion that these things are incompetence beyond a reasonable doubt. Where do you expect to go with this, other than receiving strokes from other fellow TDS sufferers?
 
Since you seem to think that you are knowledgeable enough to make the statement that he should not cave in to those that disagree with him, please make the supporting points that he is doing what is right by going against their opinions.

Also keep in mind than these people are and were not against him. They were all Republicans that he himself chose as being the best of the best. As such, please educate me as to why "he should not listen to them?"

Your assertion that all who disagree with Trump are republicants and/or his appointees is pure BS.
 
Your assertion that all who disagree with Trump are republicants and/or his appointees is pure BS.

Oh, lots of people disagree with Trump: Democrats, Republicans, most of our allies, many of his own appointees, the Pentagon, not just "Republicants," whoever they are.
 
Oh, lots of people disagree with Trump: Democrats, Republicans, most of our allies, many of his own appointees, the Pentagon, not just "Republicants," whoever they are.

Yep, but the POTUS is the one who was elected to make such decisions. I am not, in any way, saying that Trump is making good decisions - simply that it is his power, as POTUS, to do so.
 
It is your opinion that these things are incompetence beyond a reasonable doubt. Where do you expect to go with this, other than receiving strokes from other fellow TDS sufferers?

Using TDS is not a way to prove your point. As such, why don't you try to prove that I am wrong.
 
Your assertion that all who disagree with Trump are republicants and/or his appointees is pure BS.

I did not make the point you are thinking I did, but you carefully deflected my question.

Make your point as to why he should go against the recommendations of those who he hired to help him.
 
I did not make the point you are thinking I did, but you carefully deflected my question.

Make your point as to why he should go against the recommendations of those who he hired to help him.

Because he is POTUS. The last thing that I want a POTUS to do is to say "despite my personal judgement to the contrary, since Ret. Gen. X said it was a good idea, that's why our military is staying in/going into country Z".
 
Yep, but the POTUS is the one who was elected to make such decisions. I am not, in any way, saying that Trump is making good decisions - simply that it is his power, as POTUS, to do so.

I don't think anyone can dispute that.

We can lament it, but not dispute it.
 
Because he is POTUS. The last thing that I want a POTUS to do is to say "despite my personal judgement to the contrary, since Ret. Gen. X said it was a good idea, that's why our military is staying in/going into country Z".

Nonetheless, this POTUS doesn't know the difference between Kurds and Shiites and Mathis has 40 years in dealing with this successfully. One would think that an intelligent person would say "I should follow his advice because he knows more than I do". But of course, this is a mistake since Trump has very little intelligence but he has a big ego. That is the reason why he bankrupted 6 companies, none of which were associated with Real Estate, which is the only thing he knows anything about. As such, he should put his stupid ego aside and think about the nation first instead of thinking about himself first.

The fact you don't see this as simple common sense, suggest you also have no common sense.

Do you want our nation bankrupt? That is where Trump is leading us and you are supporting it.
 
Using TDS is not a way to prove your point. As such, why don't you try to prove that I am wrong.

My point was that all you posted was an opinion. You can't refute opinions. Everyone's got them.
 
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