Yes there have. And there were reports that he went to business classes, charm school, and is taking anger management. Im not trying to paint him as a saint...but you keep wanting to hearken to the past while ignoring the FACT that his CURRENT teammates support him.There have been other complaints about this guy in the past.
I don't doubt that "hazing" of players is part of a broader culture, but this issue may go beyond that. Additional incidents such as the possible one cited by ESPN would argue that the hazing angle merely masked a larger behavioral/conduct problem on the part of Incognito. The NFL will need to look at all the relevant evidence and if there is a larger problem should deal with it.
Chris...all you have to do (if you are interested in anything more than the cause of anti-bullying) is look at the Miami Dolphins locker room and how they have responded to this whole situation. Incognito may indeed be a jerk. Funny though...his coaches went to HIM as a leader and asked him to toughen Martin up. His teammates have rallied around HIM, not Martin. Other players in the league have supported him as well.
This is what I have said. From his freshman year at Nebraska to now, Incognito has either been suspended or ties were cut by every team for which he has played. His tweets that I've seen are just schoolyard stupid. I mean, seriously, tweeting that you want to crap in someone's mouth? That someone's a "big weirdo"?
But if he threatened harm to Martin's family, that's not pranks or "hazing"; that's a crime. And I'm not buying all the "Boys will be boys" stuff either because there are plenty of NFL players who don't behave the way Incognito does.
Yes there have. And there were reports that he went to business classes, charm school, and is taking anger management. Im not trying to paint him as a saint...but you keep wanting to hearken to the past while ignoring the FACT that his CURRENT teammates support him.
I think someone that's really hurting for a tackle would take a chance on him, but he'd probably be one of the worst paid tackles out there, and probably play RT to protect against a 2nd rusher and not the star DE.
He's gonna need to re-earn his stripes.
Yeah but now everyone knows how soft he is. It's like blood in the water.
Nobody is going to sign up for the negative publicity and media attention that this guy would bring. He ain't Michael Vick.
Soccer is a more feminine sport, football is a different animal.
All this bullying talk is laughable. If Martin didn't have such soft shoulders, we wouldn't have this issue today. I predict martin never plays football again.
YOU yourself cited the article from Cam Cleland. What that article very states is that Richie Incognito is just another guy in the NFL.As I said, this says far more about the culture of the Miami Dolphins than anything else. What do they see in Incognito that the coaches of Nebraska, Oregon, and the St. Louis Cardinals missed? The guy is an embarrassment to the game.
Nobody is going to sign up for the negative publicity and media attention that this guy would bring. He ain't Michael Vick.
YOU yourself cited the article from Cam Cleland. What that article very states is that Richie Incognito is just another guy in the NFL.
There is nothing 'feminine' about soccer. Had you ever played it at a competitive level, you would know that.
and I'll bet you are a bully, aren't you?
Actually, it doesn't. Cleland implies that Incognito was borderline psychopathic and a 'cancer' in the locker room.
What does that word even mean?
It's some crap fabrication so that we can have protected classes. You can't say anything to a gay person or you're a bully. You can't say anything to a black person or you're a bully. It's a way of putting protected classes like minorities and homosexuals in to neat little "do not disturb" boxes so that they can run rampant and do whatever they want without normalizing societal consequences.
Oh, bull****.
YOU yourself cited the article from Cam Cleland. What that article very states is that Richie Incognito is just another guy in the NFL.
it tells me the guys who know both players, have been to camp with them since the summer, understand the situation better than any of usHaving his current teammates - at least the vocal few - support him is meaningless, other than to perhaps underline that this is one sick locker room.
Wow, what a lazy, nonsensical, red herring of a response. Tip: Don't start a thread if you don't want to engage people.
I can't imagine why Martin would fall out with a guy who threatened to kill him, assault his mother, and participate in the gang rape of his sister. Guess he's just not the 'manly man' that Incognito is.
And I"it's a violent sport" is about the lamest excuse imaginable for this Neanderthal behavior.
He sounds like a jerk to me.
No, I'd just equate it to what minimal human conduct ought to be like. "It's just the locker room" is no longer an acceptable excuse for sub-human conduct.
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