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“America is not just an idea,” Vance declared. “It is a group of people with a shared history and a common future. It is, in short, a nation.” ...Vance seemed to suggest...that American identity was less about our national ideals than it was attachment to “a homeland.” ...At Claremont, Vance made his meaning clear: “If you think about it, identifying America just with agreeing with the principles, let’s say, of the Declaration of Independence, that’s a definition that is way overinclusive and underinclusive at the same time,” the vice president said, taking aim at traditional American creedal nationalism. ...To make this point, Vance went after Zohran Mamdani, the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City, for his Independence Day message describing America as “beautiful, contradictory, unfinished.” “Has he ever looked in the mirror and recognized that he might not be alive were it not for the generosity of a country he dares to insult on its most sacred day?” Vance said. “Who the hell does he think that he is?” Vance and Mamdani are equal citizens under the law, but the vice president seems to believe that his heritage entitles him to speak in ways that Mamdani can’t. There are tiers of belonging, according to Vance, one for those who can trace their lineage to one of the nation’s two founding revolutions and another for those who can’t.
In his opinion for the court, Chief Justice Roger Taney agreed. Black people could never be citizens, he argued, because the founders had never intended it. ...Their heritage made them subjects. And because in his view, the Constitution spoke “not only in the same words, but with the same meaning and intent with which it spoke when it came from the hands of its framers,” Black Americans could never be citizens, either. Their status was fixed. ...For the chief justice, too, the words of the Declaration of Independence were overinclusive. They conferred citizenship and belonging to more people than the framers could have possibly meant. And so, Taney concluded, we must look to other sources — in his case, slavery and racial prejudice — to find the truth, which is that American citizenship was a closed door and the United States was a tiered society of rigid hierarchies....For the chief justice, too, the words of the Declaration of Independence were overinclusive. They conferred citizenship and belonging to more people than the framers could have possibly meant. And so, Taney concluded, we must look to other sources — in his case, slavery and racial prejudice — to find the truth, which is that American citizenship was a closed door and the United States was a tiered society of rigid hierarchies.
...It is striking that the vice president invokes the Civil War to make his point. The great ideological victory of that conflict was to establish the United States as a nation “conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.” When, at Gettysburg, Lincoln pronounced a “new birth of freedom,” consecrated by those who “gave the last full measure of devotion,” he meant the egalitarian freedom that Taney and others like him sought to deny. ...Vance sees the egalitarian ideals of our founding documents but says, as Taney did, that we must look elsewhere for our vision of American citizenship. And that elsewhere is your heritage — your connection to the soil and to the dead. ...it’s here that we see the logic of Trump’s attack on the 14th Amendment’s guarantee of birthright citizenship, which wrote the egalitarian promise of the Declaration of Independence into the Constitution itself.
Trump and Vance envision a world of tiered citizenship, each in his own way, where entry depends on heritage and status rests on obedience. The best traditions of our country make this difficult. And so they have found refuge in our worst."
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Our antebellum Supreme Court might agree. An utter abandonment of founding Republican Party principles.
You can already see MAGA create a tiered citizenship with women stripped of their constitutional right to control their own bodies and the elimination of transgenders in public life. Lots of rules and government enforcement of them to keep people in line.
In his opinion for the court, Chief Justice Roger Taney agreed. Black people could never be citizens, he argued, because the founders had never intended it. ...Their heritage made them subjects. And because in his view, the Constitution spoke “not only in the same words, but with the same meaning and intent with which it spoke when it came from the hands of its framers,” Black Americans could never be citizens, either. Their status was fixed. ...For the chief justice, too, the words of the Declaration of Independence were overinclusive. They conferred citizenship and belonging to more people than the framers could have possibly meant. And so, Taney concluded, we must look to other sources — in his case, slavery and racial prejudice — to find the truth, which is that American citizenship was a closed door and the United States was a tiered society of rigid hierarchies....For the chief justice, too, the words of the Declaration of Independence were overinclusive. They conferred citizenship and belonging to more people than the framers could have possibly meant. And so, Taney concluded, we must look to other sources — in his case, slavery and racial prejudice — to find the truth, which is that American citizenship was a closed door and the United States was a tiered society of rigid hierarchies.
...It is striking that the vice president invokes the Civil War to make his point. The great ideological victory of that conflict was to establish the United States as a nation “conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.” When, at Gettysburg, Lincoln pronounced a “new birth of freedom,” consecrated by those who “gave the last full measure of devotion,” he meant the egalitarian freedom that Taney and others like him sought to deny. ...Vance sees the egalitarian ideals of our founding documents but says, as Taney did, that we must look elsewhere for our vision of American citizenship. And that elsewhere is your heritage — your connection to the soil and to the dead. ...it’s here that we see the logic of Trump’s attack on the 14th Amendment’s guarantee of birthright citizenship, which wrote the egalitarian promise of the Declaration of Independence into the Constitution itself.
Trump and Vance envision a world of tiered citizenship, each in his own way, where entry depends on heritage and status rests on obedience. The best traditions of our country make this difficult. And so they have found refuge in our worst."
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Our antebellum Supreme Court might agree. An utter abandonment of founding Republican Party principles.
You can already see MAGA create a tiered citizenship with women stripped of their constitutional right to control their own bodies and the elimination of transgenders in public life. Lots of rules and government enforcement of them to keep people in line.