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In support of Northam

trouble13 said:
Are you purposely making a dishonest argument or are you ignorant of what article 1 says

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Nope, I know exactly what it says. It should be obvious to anybody that knows Article 1 that Trump has been trying to subvert it and ultimately has tried to subvert it through extortion. Having failed that it now appears that he will try to throw the whole thing off the cliff edge by declaring a National Emergency that is not a National Emergency. The inability of the Executive to secure funding for something he wants is not a National Emergency. Trump has not been able to secure the funding for his vanity Wall and in truth has never even tried. TOO BAD for DonDon.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Every single progressive and liberal poster on this forum would be full blown nuclear if Northam was a Republican.

Ya'll keep tipping your hand every time stuff like this comes up.

The hypocrisy would be kinda funny if it weren't so sad.
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I have no idea who you’re talking to, the calls for this guy’s head from the Left are Legion: from Hillary to AOC.
 
calamity said:
I have no idea who you’re talking to, the calls for this guy’s head from the Left are Legion: from Hillary to AOC.
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You know what?

You are right.

There are at least a dozen or so DP liberals in your legion out of hundreds condemning the man. :roll:
 
RetiredUSN said:
You know what?

You are right.

There are at least a dozen or so DP liberals in your legion out of hundreds condemning the man. :roll:
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He needs to resign, not be hung from a tree.
 
Lutherf said:
While I do kind of get a kick out of all the media and politicians squirming in their seats over this guy and the picture I do want to be fair to him, as I'd hope others would be fair in different circumstances.

This picture was taken in 1984. That's 35 years ago and, frankly, a lifetime ago from a sociological perspective. Back then it wasn't uncommon to look at issues of race from a sarcastic perspective. We often made fun of racial issues as a way of pointing out the silliness of ever having had any real hatred. TV shows such as The Jeffersons, Benson, Different Strokes and The Cosby Show, among others, poked fun at racists. This episode of Saturday Night Live features Billy Crystal in blackface talking to Joe Piscopo. Does anyone really think Billy Crystal was doing that because he was a racist?

Times change. People change. Things we thought were funny or "cool" in one generation are often looked at with scorn in subsequent generations. It's just the way things go. It's also rather unfair to expect someone to look 35 years in the future and envision an act which is seen as relevant and provocative in the current time to be offensive in the later time.

There is plenty of reason to dislike Northam. His support of a vile "abortion" bill is enough. But the "racism" bit is, in my opinion, very much overblown. Unless the guy has a history of disenfranchising blacks it's rather unfair to use one picture from a generation ago to judge him today.
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Back then it was Reagan the deluded democrats were calling racist. Democrats simply do not understand the real problem of racism and the real culprits in the ongoing problem. They probably never have. LBJ should have been the first to call out, "We have found the real troublemakers promoting racism, and we democrats are the ones."
 
marke said:
Back then it was Reagan the deluded democrats were calling racist. Democrats simply do not understand the real problem of racism and the real culprits in the ongoing problem. They probably never have. LBJ should have been the first to call out, "We have found the real troublemakers promoting racism, and we democrats are the ones."
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Na. Republicans are racists. That’s why all the racist Southern Democrats became Republicans.
 
calamity said:
I have no idea who you’re talking to, the calls for this guy’s head from the Left are Legion: from Hillary to AOC.
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Which is the one thing about this we can be certain of. Northam faces a lynch mob mentality.
 
Lutherf said:
Times change. People change. Things we thought were funny or "cool" in one generation are often looked at with scorn in subsequent generations. It's just the way things go. It's also rather unfair to expect someone to look 35 years in the future and envision an act which is seen as relevant and provocative in the current time to be offensive in the later time.
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Times do change, and our leadership should change with them. Perhaps it’s time for the Boomers to loosen their desperate grip on power, enjoy their golden years, and let a new generation without their baggage take the reins. I for one could happily go a lifetime without ever again watching this kind of ugliness shrugged off because apparently blackface was totally legit in the ‘80s. Let’s just move on. Northam, and frankly much of his cohort, need to move along. Maybe take up gardening or something.
 
calamity said:
Na. Republicans are racists. That’s why all the racist Southern Democrats became Republicans.
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You keep saying that. Who filled your head with that leftist propagandist lying crap?
 
jnug said:
Nope, I know exactly what it says. It should be obvious to anybody that knows Article 1 that Trump has been trying to subvert it and ultimately has tried to subvert it through extortion. Having failed that it now appears that he will try to throw the whole thing off the cliff edge by declaring a National Emergency that is not a National Emergency. The inability of the Executive to secure funding for something he wants is not a National Emergency. Trump has not been able to secure the funding for his vanity Wall and in truth has never even tried. TOO BAD for DonDon.
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Maybe this will help you

https://youtu.be/FFroMQlKiag

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jnug said:
No help although I am guessing you think that had something to do with Article 1.
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I asked you once to tell me which section you think Trump is violating to which you deflected with a vauge answer. If you dont want people to guess answer my question with specificity. I'm begining to suspect your are both ignorant and dishonest on this topic.

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It's funny to see republicans defending him while democrats what him gone. And Trump trashing him while never saying a word about Steve King.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Isn't that true of both parties? How would Republicans have reacted if Obama were on wife and babymomma number 3 and his current wife had nude sexually suggestive photographs? How would they have reacted if Obama paid off porn stars he was having affair with while his wife was pregnant? How would they have reacted if dozens of women accused Obama of groping and sexually harassing them?
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He may not have been elected in the first place.
 
veritas1 said:
That is true but he should get the same treatment that he would hand out to a conservative in the same circumstances. Otherwise, we simply set up a "for thee but not for me" standard, which of course the liberals already widely employ. (See cases of lying to Congress among others) What's even worse is that this guy went around calling Ed Gilespie a racist for the entire campaign when he had this in his closet. No, he has to go and if the Dems won't force him out, then no Republican should ever resign under similar circumstances.
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This post is nothing except hedging to keep racist republicans in office.

Additionally, you flat out say the only reason he should resign is because Democrats. That's openly supporting racism.

That post reads like it's coming from a white hood.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Every single progressive and liberal poster on this forum would be full blown nuclear if Northam was a Republican.

Ya'll keep tipping your hand every time stuff like this comes up.

The hypocrisy would be kinda funny if it weren't so sad.
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Every single liberal, progressive and independent on this website and in the world is nuclear and calling for him to resign. What color is the sky in your world?

Your post is a pathetic attempt to claim democrats are secret racists ("see, like us... they know we're right!"). That's kkk rhetoric.
 
ecofarm said:
Every single liberal, progressive and independent on this website and in the world is nuclear and calling for him to resign. What color is the sky in your world?

Your post is a pathetic attempt to claim democrats are secret racists ("see, like us... they know we're right!"). That's kkk rhetoric.
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Racists in the democrat party are plenty, and have ranks of bigots.

You yourself displayed your own bigotry with your "banjo player" label about a group of people "North Of The Lake" who don't live the way you do.

You don't have a shred of decency about you..... and you never will.
 
RetiredUSN said:
You yourself displayed your own bigotry with your "banjo player" label about a group of people "North Of The Lake" who don't live the way you do.
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That's only because I really enjoy crying little sissy rednecks and it brings them out of the woods.
 
RetiredUSN said:
I don't cry, this is about you deflecting because you lack any defense to your own character.
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You're crying about a banjo remark and spamming personal attacks on an internet forum.
 
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