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Impeachment - Tool For Protecting The Integrity Of Our Democracy

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Rep. James Clyburn speaks of the importance of a second Impeachment of Donald Trump, video and transcript in link.

 
Rep. James Clyburn speaks of the importance of a second Impeachment of Donald Trump, video and transcript in link.

They are not protecting our democracy, they are trying to hide their lies, grab power, separate us from as much of our rights as they can and implement their far left agenda. They fear Trump because he has the votes to come back and take back the country from the communist in the democrat party.
Read it and deny this is what the democrat party has been doing for decades.
 
They are not protecting our democracy, they are trying to hide their lies, grab power, separate us from as much of our rights as they can and implement their far left agenda. They fear Trump because he has the votes to come back and take back the country from the communist in the democrat party.
Read it and deny this is what the democrat party has been doing for decades.
Wow.

Wowzie wowzie wo-wo.

It looks like that's what you're doing so I have to guess you're with Mein Fuhrer.

The Democratic Party has reduced deficits and handed over growing economies.
 
They are not protecting our democracy, they are trying to hide their lies, grab power, separate us from as much of our rights as they can and implement their far left agenda. They fear Trump because he has the votes to come back and take back the country from the communist in the democrat party.
Read it and deny this is what the democrat party has been doing for decades.
You are in denial and delusional. Be a big boy now, turn off your night-light, there are no boogeymen hiding under your bed waiting to get you and eat you up. 🤣
 
Rep. James Clyburn speaks of the importance of a second Impeachment of Donald Trump, video and transcript in link.


Though Senate Republicans will not vote to convict, the House must do its job. Inciting insurrection resulting in what we witnessed this past week cannot be allowed to stand.
 
Though Senate Republicans will not vote to convict, the House must do its job. Inciting insurrection resulting in what we witnessed this past week cannot be allowed to stand.
I could not agree with you more.
 
Though Senate Republicans will not vote to convict, the House must do its job. Inciting insurrection resulting in what we witnessed this past week cannot be allowed to stand.

if they can get at least 50 senators on board they can at least keep him from ever running for office again
 
I could not agree with you more.

I watched ABC News this evening, many videos from inside Congress, chilling and sad. Officers being crushed against steel barricades with the insururgist screaming "grab there shields''. The Capital police officer killed by blunt force to the head, all goes back to Trump. Harry Truman, a man with an over abundance of common sense stated the buck stops with him.

I stated 5 years ago on this forum Trump was unfit to be President. His personality is mismatched for the job. It all went downhill from there...and the GOP, and America are now paying the price. This will not go away for the GOP, they have serous cohesion issues, so much so Trump could break away, and take his folks with him.

The Dems need to get these next 2 years right.
 
They are not protecting our democracy, they are trying to hide their lies, grab power, separate us from as much of our rights as they can and implement their far left agenda. They fear Trump because he has the votes to come back and take back the country from the communist in the democrat party.
Read it and deny this is what the democrat party has been doing for decades.


Dude. You lost it all. In less than 3 months.

That's gotta hurt.
 
They are not protecting our democracy, they are trying to hide their lies, grab power, separate us from as much of our rights as they can and implement their far left agenda. They fear Trump because he has the votes to come back and take back the country from the communist in the democrat party.
Read it and deny this is what the democrat party has been doing for decades.


Yes they are. And nobody cares about the 50 year old rantings of some Crackpot Dixiecrat.
 
Rep. James Clyburn speaks of the importance of a second Impeachment of Donald Trump, video and transcript in link.

The ones saying this are the Marxists who just stole the election in a coup of their own. Their goal is now to punish their adversaries—-just like dictators do. Get ready for the USSR, people. We are here.
 
I watched ABC News this evening, many videos from inside Congress, chilling and sad. Officers being crushed against steel barricades with the insururgist screaming "grab there shields''. The Capital police officer killed by blunt force to the head, all goes back to Trump. Harry Truman, a man with an over abundance of common sense stated the buck stops with him.

I stated 5 years ago on this forum Trump was unfit to be President. His personality is mismatched for the job. It all went downhill from there...and the GOP, and America are now paying the price. This will not go away for the GOP, they have serous cohesion issues, so much so Trump could break away, and take his folks with him.

The Dems need to get these next 2 years right.


I said it too. On this forum, too.

Donald Trump was never fit by virtue of character, intelligence, honor, respect or integrity to hold any position of public trust. That was always true.
 
I watched ABC News this evening, many videos from inside Congress, chilling and sad. Officers being crushed against steel barricades with the insururgist screaming "grab there shields''. The Capital police officer killed by blunt force to the head, all goes back to Trump. Harry Truman, a man with an over abundance of common sense stated the buck stops with him.

I stated 5 years ago on this forum Trump was unfit to be President. His personality is mismatched for the job. It all went downhill from there...and the GOP, and America are now paying the price. This will not go away for the GOP, they have serous cohesion issues, so much so Trump could break away, and take his folks with him.

The Dems need to get these next 2 years right.
You were proven wrong, as Trump proved to be a superb highly competent president. America is in a far better position than it was before Trump emerged. His management of the epidemic was spot on. He encouraged states to keep open but left it up to them. He stopped travel from China very early on, and got us the vaccine far faster than the left thought possible. The DJIA was 18,000 when Trump was elected. It's 31,000 now.
 
The problem is more urgent than impeachment. You need the 25th too. In fact Pence needs it. He can be saved from forever looking over his shoulder for deadly Trumpists (He was one of the prey they were hunting in the Capitol) If he becomes President for a day, then he can have the lifetime SS protection stripped from Traitor Trump
 
Wow.

Wowzie wowzie wo-wo.

It looks like that's what you're doing so I have to guess you're with Mein Fuhrer.

The Democratic Party has reduced deficits and handed over growing economies.
AFTER doing everything possible to blow up those same economies to take the WH.
 
I can't say this enough, if a cult leader or hate group leader did what Trump did and a mob descended on the capital, violently forced their way in, and deaths resulted, that cult leader would be in federal custody right now, they would be denied bail, they would be tried and convicted, and they would spend the rest of their life in a 4x8 foot cell in a Federal Supermax facility where they would be fed through a slot and spend 20 minutes outside a day in a 12x20 foot cage.
 
They are not protecting our democracy, they are trying to hide their lies, grab power, separate us from as much of our rights as they can and implement their far left agenda. They fear Trump because he has the votes to come back and take back the country from the communist in the democrat party.
Read it and deny this is what the democrat party has been doing for decades.
Goodness me, a lone voice in the wilderness!
I concur, with your reasoning.
But this report mentioning the telephone call by Trump..... and conversation to a Georgian official, a red herring, had there been anything to legally destroy Trump in this conversation, they would all be singing it from the rafters! Instead of...... "right"!
And I have no axe to grind other than playing devils avocate!
 
Though Senate Republicans will not vote to convict, the House must do its job. Inciting insurrection resulting in what we witnessed this past week cannot be allowed to stand.

If conviction is known to be (virtually) impossible then this is simply an exercise in time wasting. The problem with asking the Senate republicants for a symbolic (not removing Trump from office any sooner) impeachment conviction is that it puts those republicants in the position of agreeing with Pelosi (and Schumer) over the objections of a significant portion of their voting base. The whole idea of holding a second impeachment “trial” (possibly after Biden is POTUS) with an obviously partisan jury pool is terribly flawed.
 
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If conviction is known to be (virtually) impossible then this is simply an exercise in time wasting. The problem with asking the Senate republicants for a symbolic (not removing Trump from office any sooner) impeachment conviction is that it puts those republicants in the position of agreeing with Pelosi (and Schumer) over the objections of a significant portion of their voting base. The whole idea of holding a second impeachment “trial” (possibly after Biden is POTUS) with an obviously partisan jury pool is terribly flawed.
That presupposes that a prima facie case exists between Trump and the senate. As well and his grievances don't exist or not substantive or substantial, which any enquiry could overturn the presidency!
But looking back, the 9/11 debacle, three thousand dead Americans in the twin towers, the Pentagon, those making mobile calls from aircraft that was impossible, the lies to go to war with Afghanistan, and Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, .Syria and Yemen, they won't open Pandora's box, they won't impeach!
 
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That presupposes that a prima facie case exists between Trump and the senate. As well and his grievances don't exist or not substantive or substantial, which any enquiry could overturn the presidency!
But looking back, the 9/11 debacle, three thousand dead Americans in the twin towers, the Pentagon, those making mobile calls from aircraft that was impossible, the lies to go to war with Afghanistan, and Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, .Syria and Yemen, they won't open Pandora's box, they won't impeach!

Impeachment is an exclusive constitutional power of the House. Pelosi has an excellent political reason to impeach Trump (again) - it will (help her to) unite House demorats which is absoluitely essential for her to remain Speaker of the House.
 
Impeachment is an exclusive constitutional power of the House. Pelosi has an excellent political reason to impeach Trump (again) - it will (help her to) unite House demorats which is absoluitely essential for her to remain Speaker of the House.
They had no reason to impeach Trump the first time, as it was ruled that the whole case against Trump was a fabrication.
You will never have any semblence of unity, in the congress or senate, as trust cannot exist in a vacuum. This episode has serious ramifications for the American republic and for generations to come, even if those posting partisan comments, cannot see it!
 
Impeachment is an exclusive constitutional power of the House. Pelosi has an excellent political reason to impeach Trump (again) - it will (help her to) unite House demorats which is absoluitely essential for her to remain Speaker of the House.

Also Trump should be impeached due to his actions. (And his inactions)

The entire capitol complex is compromised. They have to assume foreign actors were embedded in the insurrectionists and that literally any device or object in the building could now be an espionage device. They have to tear the entire place apart. Any data on any computer in the building has to be assumed to be in the hands of foreign enemies.

This failure of national defense on Trump’s watch alone is enough to impeach him.
 
If conviction is known to be (virtually) impossible then this is simply an exercise in time wasting. The problem with asking the Senate republicants for a symbolic (not removing Trump from office any sooner) impeachment conviction is that it puts those republicants in the position of agreeing with Pelosi (and Schumer) over the objections of a significant portion of their voting base. The whole idea of holding a second impeachment “trial” (possibly after Biden is POTUS) with an obviously partisan jury pool is terribly flawed.


Its best to just wait this out until Jan 20. History will be the juror on what transpired last week, and it won't be kind.
 
Its best to just wait this out until Jan 20. History will be the juror on what transpired last week, and it won't be kind.
It won't be kind to the Democrats who stole the election.
 
The problem is more urgent than impeachment. You need the 25th too. In fact Pence needs it. He can be saved from forever looking over his shoulder for deadly Trumpists (He was one of the prey they were hunting in the Capitol) If he becomes President for a day, then he can have the lifetime SS protection stripped from Traitor Trump

It's all straw men, trump has and pays for his own security, why else is he still alive, why all the throwing of mud?

Fear!
 
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