IMO the only solution is trump and Vance's removal from office

Craig234 said:

The presidency is too powerful, and trump and Vance are too much enemies of the American system, that there is no solution involving addressing certain actions or powers. Even if there were on some actions, like cancelling his emergency tariff power, they'd remain hugely dangerous by abusing other powers. The presidency cannot be neutered enough to prevent that.

So the only solution, IMO, is the removal of trump and Vance. Anything less will just be more damage to the country. Whatever that means as a time frame - the 2028 election, impeachment sooner, it should be the target of loyal Americans. Of course, his wrongs should be fought in other ways, but removal is the only solution.

Of course, it's not enough - there remains the entirely corrupt Republican Party, the oligarchs, who would replace them. But it's needed.

The world knows it, the question is how much damage will be caused until he is out. The opposition could use a slogan along the lines of "America taken hostage", making it clear the problem the country has while he has the presidency.

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Craig234 said:

The presidency is too powerful, and trump and Vance are too much enemies of the American system, that there is no solution involving addressing certain actions or powers. Even if there were on some actions, like cancelling his emergency tariff power, they'd remain hugely dangerous by abusing other powers. The presidency cannot be neutered enough to prevent that.

So the only solution, IMO, is the removal of trump and Vance. Anything less will just be more damage to the country. Whatever that means as a time frame - the 2028 election, impeachment sooner, it should be the target of loyal Americans. Of course, his wrongs should be fought in other ways, but removal is the only solution.

Of course, it's not enough - there remains the entirely corrupt Republican Party, the oligarchs, who would replace them. But it's needed.

The world knows it, the question is how much damage will be caused until he is out. The opposition could use a slogan along the lines of "America taken hostage", making it clear the problem the country has while he has the presidency.

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Craig234 said:

The presidency is too powerful, and trump and Vance are too much enemies of the American system, that there is no solution involving addressing certain actions or powers. Even if there were on some actions, like cancelling his emergency tariff power, they'd remain hugely dangerous by abusing other powers. The presidency cannot be neutered enough to prevent that.

So the only solution, IMO, is the removal of trump and Vance. Anything less will just be more damage to the country. Whatever that means as a time frame - the 2028 election, impeachment sooner, it should be the target of loyal Americans. Of course, his wrongs should be fought in other ways, but removal is the only solution.

Of course, it's not enough - there remains the entirely corrupt Republican Party, the oligarchs, who would replace them. But it's needed.

The world knows it, the question is how much damage will be caused until he is out. The opposition could use a slogan along the lines of "America taken hostage", making it clear the problem the country has while he has the presidency.

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redbeer said:

Impeaching a President every time it doesn't go your way.....

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Craig234 said:

The presidency is too powerful, and trump and Vance are too much enemies of the American system, that there is no solution involving addressing certain actions or powers. Even if there were on some actions, like cancelling his emergency tariff power, they'd remain hugely dangerous by abusing other powers. The presidency cannot be neutered enough to prevent that.

So the only solution, IMO, is the removal of trump and Vance. Anything less will just be more damage to the country. Whatever that means as a time frame - the 2028 election, impeachment sooner, it should be the target of loyal Americans. Of course, his wrongs should be fought in other ways, but removal is the only solution.

Of course, it's not enough - there remains the entirely corrupt Republican Party, the oligarchs, who would replace them. But it's needed.

The world knows it, the question is how much damage will be caused until he is out. The opposition could use a slogan along the lines of "America taken hostage", making it clear the problem the country has while he has the presidency.

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Craig234 said:

The presidency is too powerful, and trump and Vance are too much enemies of the American system, that there is no solution involving addressing certain actions or powers. Even if there were on some actions, like cancelling his emergency tariff power, they'd remain hugely dangerous by abusing other powers. The presidency cannot be neutered enough to prevent that.

So the only solution, IMO, is the removal of trump and Vance. Anything less will just be more damage to the country. Whatever that means as a time frame - the 2028 election, impeachment sooner, it should be the target of loyal Americans. Of course, his wrongs should be fought in other ways, but removal is the only solution.

Of course, it's not enough - there remains the entirely corrupt Republican Party, the oligarchs, who would replace them. But it's needed.

The world knows it, the question is how much damage will be caused until he is out. The opposition could use a slogan along the lines of "America taken hostage", making it clear the problem the country has while he has the presidency.

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markdc said:

Well, there’s a clear way to get the result you and your fellow Democrats want: It’s for Democrats to win so huge in the midterm elections that they obtain a two-thirds majority in both houses of Congress. But in order to do that, Democrats are going to have to suddenly become WAY more popular than they are right now.

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