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This might be a rant - I'm not sure.

Like countless people - I'm struggling to lose weight.

[Let's dispense with a few assumptions: I don't overeat, according to all the many calorie calculators. I don't snack much. I don't eat huge portions of food. When I saw I was consuming excess calories from sugar in my coffee, I quit coffee and went to tea with no sugar or milk added. I'm fit and work out routinely as I have done for YEARS - all the while actually gaining weight and NOT muscle-mass.

Long story short: In the last few months I've cut calories, trying not to go below 1200 a day because that's supposedly a bad thing to do.
I go to the gym 3 times week - between cardio, weight lifting, kettlebells, I'm quite fit.

Still... no weight LOSS (insert the whole: you can't lose weight while building muscles yada yada I know all this crap here) (insert the whole you have to make a calorie deficit of 500 calories a day to lose weight here)]

All the advice - I've read / I've applied / I've followed.

I should see results.

Clearly I'm not. I'm still over 160. Once or twice I've stepped on the scale and I've been like 159 BUT that's not long-lasting enough to count. It's just a tease. Maybe - MAYBE - I've lost 3 - 5 lbs since January? It's hard to say because my bodyweight fluctuates up to 7 lbs every month just due to my cycle and god knows what the hell my cycle is - something obscene and irritating like 'a 24 day cycle'

Anyway... I finally decided 'hey - maybe what works for me is different than what works for everyone else because I'm PETITE. You know - I'm 5' with shoes ON so I had the genius idea that I should research weight loss for SHORT women.

Oh glory - I've read a lot of **** and it all really says the same thing. And it explains a lot. I can eat less than 1200 calories a day safely (which is great) . . . oh but get this:

OVEREATING as much as 40 - that's it - just ****ing 40 CALORIES PER DAY - will make a petite woman of my height GAIN ****ING WEIGHT.
In several sources - books and medical research journals - that's what I've read.

So absolutely NO candy. Not a single bite of fruit for ****'s sake. Nothing - nada. Water and green beans. Militant Vegan just got ****ing happy as hell - but I'm not happy. I'm flaming ****ing pissed that in order to lose weight I have to eat NOTHING.

A single BITE of food too much and my efforts are shot to ****. Already my food intake is quite tight. I eat **** like: a single serving of granola with skim for breakfast. A small salad for lunch with vinaigrette to cut calories. A small serving of dinner. No soda. No junk food. No sweet tea.

And on top of that - the only FITNESS advice is this charming pile of ****: CUT BACK ON THE CARDIO - CARDIO FOR PETITE WOMEN IS BAD (WTF?) . . . and LIFT MORE WEIGHTS.

I ALREADY OUTLIFT A LOT OF THE GODDAMNED GUYS AT THE ****ING GYM - I AM PATHETICALLY AND GROTESQUELY MUSCULAR AND REALLY ****ING HATE IT.

I want to be THIN. I don't want to look like a ****ing dude. I just want to be fit enough to do my DIY **** - lose weight in the means of actual body fat - and live a decent ****ing life.

I'm so ****ed. This is just not going to be possible. Even if I could figure out what my maintenance calorie count IS - it would be impossible to achieve a loss because - you know - ONE BITE of air will make me gain 10 lbs overnight.

Meanwhile - my husband's lost THIRTY ****ING POUNDS. Well good for him - it's obviously easy as **** when you're ****ing TALL.

I was anorexic years ago and I should have stayed that way - because apparently 500 calories a day like what I ate was JUST ****ING FINE.

--
You know what I bet you doesn't exist: a petite woman who lost weight 'the right way' . . . yeah, she's not out there and it's not gonna be me. In goes the towel.
 
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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

Have you tried Paleo?
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

This might be a rant - I'm not sure.

Like countless people - I'm struggling to lose weight.

[Let's dispense with a few assumptions: I don't overeat, according to all the many calorie calculators. I don't snack much. I don't eat huge portions of food. When I saw I was consuming excess calories from sugar in my coffee, I quit coffee and went to tea with no sugar or milk added. I'm fit and work out routinely as I have done for YEARS - all the while actually gaining weight and NOT muscle-mass.

Long story short: In the last few months I've cut calories, trying not to go below 1200 a day because that's supposedly a bad thing to do.
I go to the gym 3 times week - between cardio, weight lifting, kettlebells, I'm quite fit.

Still... no weight LOSS (insert the whole: you can't lose weight while building muscles yada yada I know all this crap here) (insert the whole you have to make a calorie deficit of 500 calories a day to lose weight here)]

All the advice - I've read / I've applied / I've followed.

I should see results.

Clearly I'm not. I'm still over 160. Once or twice I've stepped on the scale and I've been like 159 BUT that's not long-lasting enough to count. It's just a tease. Maybe - MAYBE - I've lost 3 - 5 lbs since January? It's hard to say because my bodyweight fluctuates up to 7 lbs every month just due to my cycle and god knows what the hell my cycle is - something obscene and irritating like 'a 24 day cycle'

Anyway... I finally decided 'hey - maybe what works for me is different than what works for everyone else because I'm PETITE. You know - I'm 5' with shoes ON so I had the genius idea that I should research weight loss for SHORT women.

Oh glory - I've read a lot of **** and it all really says the same thing. And it explains a lot. I can eat less than 1200 calories a day safely (which is great) . . . oh but get this:

OVEREATING as much as 40 - that's it - just ****ing 40 CALORIES PER DAY - will make a petite woman of my height GAIN ****ING WEIGHT.
In several sources - books and medical research journals - that's what I've read.

So absolutely NO candy. Not a single bite of fruit for ****'s sake. Nothing - nada. Water and green beans. Militant Vegan just got ****ing happy as hell - but I'm not happy. I'm flaming ****ing pissed that in order to lose weight I have to eat NOTHING.

A single BITE of food too much and my efforts are shot to ****. Already my food intake is quite tight. I eat **** like: a single serving of granola with skim for breakfast. A small salad for lunch with vinaigrette to cut calories. A small serving of dinner. No soda. No junk food. No sweet tea.

And on top of that - the only FITNESS advice is this charming pile of ****: CUT BACK ON THE CARDIO - CARDIO FOR PETITE WOMEN IS BAD (WTF?) . . . and LIFT MORE WEIGHTS.

I ALREADY OUTLIFT A LOT OF THE GODDAMNED GUYS AT THE ****ING GYM - I AM PATHETICALLY AND GROTESQUELY MUSCULAR AND REALLY ****ING HATE IT.

I want to be THIN. I don't want to look like a ****ing dude. I just want to be fit enough to do my DIY **** - lose weight in the means of actual body fat - and live a decent ****ing life.

I'm so ****ed. This is just not going to be possible. Even if I could figure out what my maintenance calorie count IS - it would be impossible to achieve a loss because - you know - ONE BITE of air will make me gain 10 lbs overnight.

Meanwhile - my husband's lost THIRTY ****ING POUNDS. Well good for him - it's obviously easy as **** when you're ****ing TALL.

I was anorexic years ago and I should have stayed that way - because apparently 500 calories a day like what I ate was JUST ****ING FINE.

--
You know what I bet you doesn't exist: a petite woman who lost weight 'the right way' . . . yeah, she's not out there and it's not gonna be me. In goes the towel.


I know its taboo to ask but to start with if I may ask height weight? I really do intend to help and its something I am pretty involved in myself.
YOu will get a lot of lies or at least ignorant innacurate info thrown at you. the less cardio thing for a petite woman .. what the hell is that.
The only reason one would minimize cardio is if you were a man and wanted to not lower your testosterone levels. ( excessive or long term cardio can lower testosterone levels )
Well decide how much you want to share , I will work with you on it. I can emphathize.
BTW as far as the husband losing and you not... its a bit unfair but, its easier for me to lose weight. men metabolize more efficiently than women do. .. as I said not fair I know.
Let me know.. can pm if you want I will help out.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

Maybe you should think about your overall health and well being and throw away your scale.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

Like countless people - I'm struggling to lose weight.

Long story short: In the last few months I've cut calories, trying not to go below 1200 a day because that's supposedly a bad thing to do.
I go to the gym 3 times week - between cardio, weight lifting, kettlebells, I'm quite fit.

Still... no weight LOSS (insert the whole: you can't lose weight while building muscles yada yada I know all this crap here) (insert the whole you have to make a calorie deficit of 500 calories a day to lose weight here)][/I][/INDENT]

Clearly I'm not. I'm still over 160. Once or twice I've stepped on the scale and I've been like 159 BUT that's not long-lasting enough to count. It's just a tease. Maybe - MAYBE - I've lost 3 - 5 lbs since January? It's hard to say because my bodyweight fluctuates up to 7 lbs every month just due to my cycle and god knows what the hell my cycle is - something obscene and irritating like 'a 24 day cycle'

Anyway... I finally decided 'hey - maybe what works for me is different than what works for everyone else because I'm PETITE. You know - I'm 5' with shoes ON so I had the genius idea that I should research weight loss for SHORT women.


And on top of that - the only FITNESS advice is this charming pile of ****: CUT BACK ON THE CARDIO - CARDIO FOR PETITE WOMEN IS BAD (WTF?) . . . and LIFT MORE WEIGHTS.

I ALREADY OUTLIFT A LOT OF THE GODDAMNED GUYS AT THE ****ING GYM - I AM PATHETICALLY AND GROTESQUELY MUSCULAR AND REALLY ****ING HATE IT.

--
You know what I bet you doesn't exist: a petite woman who lost weight 'the right way' . . . yeah, she's not out there and it's not gonna be me. In goes the towel.

You do realize that muscle mass is heavier than fat right?

Perhaps you should stop the weightlifting and try alternative methods of exercise.

So no offense, but stop telling us NOT to point this out. At 5' tall and 160 lbs, you must be either a female body-builder or something is not right with this description.

Have you consulted with a sports medicine doctor?
 
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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

Really, this is what you want to do?

Listen, the "experts" know almost nothing about how food mates with the body, because they know very little about human metabolics. Most of what what they claim to know is either a lie or just them being wrong again.

My advice: Take a good look at yourself and decide that is good enough. If anyone in your life has a problem with that replace them. You might however consider doing what ever hubby wants in bed depending upon what he thinks but anyone else...fvck em.

Make peace with yourself, and with your maker if you have one, life is better if you do, and unless you know something I dont you cant depend upon another go, try to enjoy this one.

My wife has been angry with God for almost 7 years.

Drives me nuts.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

I know its taboo to ask but to start with if I may ask height weight? I really do intend to help and its something I am pretty involved in myself.
YOu will get a lot of lies or at least ignorant innacurate info thrown at you. the less cardio thing for a petite woman .. what the hell is that.
The only reason one would minimize cardio is if you were a man and wanted to not lower your testosterone levels. ( excessive or long term cardio can lower testosterone levels )
Well decide how much you want to share , I will work with you on it. I can emphathize.
BTW as far as the husband losing and you not... its a bit unfair but, its easier for me to lose weight. men metabolize more efficiently than women do. .. as I said not fair I know.
Let me know.. can pm if you want I will help out.

Not taboo - 4'11 / 160-ish. It's in that post somewhere but between all the ranting pissery it's lost.

Thanks.

No need for pm - I've been posting around here lately and only just now realized I'm up against something that doesn't seem so simple.

You do realize that muscle mass is heavier than fat right?

Perhaps you should stop the weightlifting and try alternative methods of exercise.

Well I'm certainly not lean - granted that I lost 5 lbs last year when I cut off my hair (yeah - really) and maybe my tits weight 15lbs (actually - according to research done a few years ago, breasts can contain an average of 3.3% of bodyfat for women in my bmi bracket) . . . but come on. I have a double chin for f's sake and I can't bike ride and hike much more than I already do. Which is why I joined a gym - hoping a wider array of equipment would allow me to find something that was more beneficial because pushing a lawnmower around my 1 acre yard once a week won't cut anything but the grass (I've tried).

Something's gotta give other than my temper.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

Not taboo - 4'11 / 160-ish. It's in that post somewhere but between all the ranting pissery it's lost.

Thanks.

No need for pm - I've been posting around here lately and only just now realized I'm up against something that doesn't seem so simple.



Well I'm certainly not lean - granted that I lost 5 lbs last year when I cut off my hair (yeah - really) and maybe my tits weight 15lbs (actually - according to research done a few years ago, breasts can contain an average of 3.3% of bodyfat for women in my bmi bracket) . . . but come on. I have a double chin for f's sake and I can't bike ride and hike much more than I already do. Which is why I joined a gym - hoping a wider array of equipment would allow me to find something that was more beneficial because pushing a lawnmower around my 1 acre yard once a week won't cut anything but the grass (I've tried).

Something's gotta give other than my temper.

I'm no expert. Which is why I suggest speaking with a specialist. In your case, accepting everything as true, it might very well be a hormonal imbalance.

Perhaps a consult with a medical specialist along with a complete series of tests might provide an answer and possible solutions?

It's worth a try if you are really concerned. Of course, YOU need be happy with who you are. The hell with the rest of us.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

I'm no expert. Which is why I suggest speaking with a specialist. In your case, accepting everything as true, it might very well be a hormonal imbalance.

Perhaps a consult with a medical specialist along with a complete series of tests might provide an answer and possible solutions?

It's worth a try if you are really concerned. Of course, YOU need be happy with who you are. The hell with the rest of us.

Hmm - you might have a point, there. I do have a condition which causes poor circulation in my arms. I haven't had issues with it since I was pregnant with my youngest son (9 years ago) - during which I had 2 surgeries to remove ribs to allow for ease of circulation.

But - it is possible I'm having issues related to that in some unforeseen way. Though I have no symptoms like swelling or numbness, you never know. Thanks for the reminder. I can't forget that I'm not a healthy person through and through just because I'm fit.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

Take this for what it is worth, but when I was in the navy and had to lose weight, the best results I ever got was doing aerobics. Intense aerobics, ran by a ****ing marine with like 0 % body fat(but really, he was a super nice guy). Nothing else I ever tried came near the impact as that in burning calories.

Caveat: I am not a weight loss expert, and in fact, I wish I was down to just two chins. Fat people stand next to me to feel thin. I have read a total of zero literature on weight loss. I really don't know what I am talking about, but figured out would throw out this anecdote on the very unlikely chance it might possibly be of some help.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

You've probably heard all this before, but here goes:

Only use weights to enhance basic exercise (hand weights - 3 to 5 pounds) for resistance only, and walk, then walk some more, then run a little, then walk again. Cardio is not bad, but unless your going to be a professional dancer or run a marathon, you don't need heavy cardio to lose weight. Get a pedometer and walk 12,000 to 14,000 steps a day if you can - every day over the course of the entire day. That will burn the calories and move the scales down about a 1 to 2 pounds a week. Drink lots of water, more than you are now. That flushes the trash. Drink water until your pee is perfectly clear all the time. And, eat real food, not processed foods. Fresh meats, fresh vegetables, and eating fruit is not a bad thing regardless of what people tell you. Fructose in fresh fruit will not make you fat as long as you eat in moderation. In fact, the natural sugars in fruits and vegetables is what your body needs to burn the calories. Get protein from numerous sources, not just meats, but make sure you get the protein or your metabolism will store rather than burn and you'll feel like ****.

As for the ever present problem of women and losing weight... well, that's not going to change. But what can change is how you look at it. Like Threegoofs said, focus more on your overall health, and less on the weight. One way to do both is to buy the Mayo Clinic Diet book. The first two weeks are basically a diet, and the remainder of the program is more of a healthy lifestyle plan than an actual diet. But, it works and you will lose weight, improve your overall health, and gain a guide as to how to make healthy eating easier and less stressful. I'm not saying that you're doing anything wrong, however, whatever you are doing isn't working the way you want, so for a few bucks, you can go on Amazon and buy the Mayo Clinic book and if nothing else, have something to read before you go to bed.

On a final note, good luck. I hope you get to a point that you're happy.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

Hmm - you might have a point, there. I do have a condition which causes poor circulation in my arms. I haven't had issues with it since I was pregnant with my youngest son (9 years ago) - during which I had 2 surgeries to remove ribs to allow for ease of circulation.

But - it is possible I'm having issues related to that in some unforeseen way. Though I have no symptoms like swelling or numbness, you never know. Thanks for the reminder. I can't forget that I'm not a healthy person through and through just because I'm fit.

Ask for a thyroid function test.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

Everyone's metabolism and body are different. I am not a believer in a one size fits all exercise or diet regimen. I guess the only advice I could give is to try different diets and exercises as well as a lifestyle change until it works for you..

Oh, and fresh fruit is very good for you, its the fruit juices and packaged stuff that makes you gain weight.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

Not taboo - 4'11 / 160-ish. It's in that post somewhere but between all the ranting pissery it's lost.

Thanks.

No need for pm - I've been posting around here lately and only just now realized I'm up against something that doesn't seem so simple.



Well I'm certainly not lean - granted that I lost 5 lbs last year when I cut off my hair (yeah - really) and maybe my tits weight 15lbs (actually - according to research done a few years ago, breasts can contain an average of 3.3% of bodyfat for women in my bmi bracket) . . . but come on. I have a double chin for f's sake and I can't bike ride and hike much more than I already do. Which is why I joined a gym - hoping a wider array of equipment would allow me to find something that was more beneficial because pushing a lawnmower around my 1 acre yard once a week won't cut anything but the grass (I've tried).

Something's gotta give other than my temper.

I did forget to ask age, but that ones not as critical I can give a rough guess and be close enough.
So what we do from there is first get a reasonably accurate number on metabolic rate.
Your base metabolic rate is around 1400 calories. that how much calories a normal person of your height weight ( slightly modified by age ) would burn just sitting around the house doing nothing at all.
with your activity level you should be burning on average around 2000 calories a day ( more on the days you work out less on the days you don't obviously ).
since a pound of fat is roughly 3500 calories if you can cut ~500 a day you should lose about a pound a week. I was going for more aggressive than that.

I did mention people tell you inaccuracies. the you cant lose weight and gain muscle at the same time is also not true. it just requires more attention to what you eat and when and how you work out a bit more.
Obviously so people do have certain issues that make their metabolic rates out of the norm. But we can still improve things.

What you said you are right at not going too low on the calories. your body may see this as starvation and trigger starvation response. your body will try to keep any sugar you intake and store it as glycogen. and instead ketones and then some muscle tissue and bone will be broken down into energy instead. definitely don't want that as you keep all your fat and instead lose some of the good part of your body you want to keep.

So the path to what you want requires eliminating as much sugar as you can, and minimizing complex carbohydrates while getting enough calories to satisfy your bodies min energy requirements and excercising to maintain a health metabolic level.

Yea I know nothing genius said so far.

I will suggest what a plan that I did aug through oct I lose about 9 lbs in 10 weeks ( im about 5'10 and went from about 190 to 181). unfortunately I got lazy during the holidays and gained back about half of it. so im going to be doing this same thing as I wasn't don't at 181 either. I have gained some muscle. but im looking to lose about 10-12 lbs of fat still and then re-evaluate.

So here is what I was eating during that time.

basically a salad.
7-10 oz of a lettuce . I prefer Romaine but you could do Kale, Spinach, spring mix , or a blend.
10 oz of veggies . I usually did baby carrots and pea pods or broccoli and cauliflower cherry tomatos or a mix of that but total around 10 oz
4-6 oz of chicken turkey or chicken ( no skin )
1 avocado in pieces thrown on there.

So far that's only about ~800-850 calories

dressing you want light of course, Italian, greek, Russian, a vinnagrette or balsamic.. not the creamy ones though.
this will add about 150-300 calories depending on what you chose

I would have a piece of fruit a peach, nectarine or something like that also.
This is roughly 6 or 7 hundred less calories a day than you burn.

So that's your main meal for the day, probably broken up into 2 meals as that's a pretty big salad.
Later on another piece of fruit or veggie as a snack.

On days you work out you can add a bit more meat or another piece of fruit or even more advocado.

Once a week ( for me it was Saturday as that's the day I worked out the hardest ) I would switch it up and eat something completely different as long as it was near the same calories but maybe allow another 100 or so.
Sometimes I would do a burger wrapped in lettuce ( no bun ) .
I did that as I said for 10 weeks or so. my lean bodyweight is about 152-154 and as I said I was about 189-190 I went down to about 180 in that short time.

Now for exercise. 3 times a week. generally ~25 mins on elliptical then I do a few sets of curls maybe some pull ups maybe some abs. Mix it up a bit. spent maybe 40 mins working out tues and thurs then on Saturday I would do the same but more worked out maybe an hour.

That's it... nothing super complicated.

Don't know how you feel about trying that but I would bet you could duplicate my results. any thoughts?
 
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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

This might be a rant - I'm not sure.

Like countless people - I'm struggling to lose weight.

[Let's dispense with a few assumptions: I don't overeat, according to all the many calorie calculators. I don't snack much. I don't eat huge portions of food. When I saw I was consuming excess calories from sugar in my coffee, I quit coffee and went to tea with no sugar or milk added. I'm fit and work out routinely as I have done for YEARS - all the while actually gaining weight and NOT muscle-mass.

Long story short: In the last few months I've cut calories, trying not to go below 1200 a day because that's supposedly a bad thing to do.
I go to the gym 3 times week - between cardio, weight lifting, kettlebells, I'm quite fit.

Still... no weight LOSS (insert the whole: you can't lose weight while building muscles yada yada I know all this crap here) (insert the whole you have to make a calorie deficit of 500 calories a day to lose weight here)]

All the advice - I've read / I've applied / I've followed.

I should see results.

Clearly I'm not. I'm still over 160. Once or twice I've stepped on the scale and I've been like 159 BUT that's not long-lasting enough to count. It's just a tease. Maybe - MAYBE - I've lost 3 - 5 lbs since January? It's hard to say because my bodyweight fluctuates up to 7 lbs every month just due to my cycle and god knows what the hell my cycle is - something obscene and irritating like 'a 24 day cycle'

Anyway... I finally decided 'hey - maybe what works for me is different than what works for everyone else because I'm PETITE. You know - I'm 5' with shoes ON so I had the genius idea that I should research weight loss for SHORT women.

Oh glory - I've read a lot of **** and it all really says the same thing. And it explains a lot. I can eat less than 1200 calories a day safely (which is great) . . . oh but get this:

OVEREATING as much as 40 - that's it - just ****ing 40 CALORIES PER DAY - will make a petite woman of my height GAIN ****ING WEIGHT.
In several sources - books and medical research journals - that's what I've read.

So absolutely NO candy. Not a single bite of fruit for ****'s sake. Nothing - nada. Water and green beans. Militant Vegan just got ****ing happy as hell - but I'm not happy. I'm flaming ****ing pissed that in order to lose weight I have to eat NOTHING.

A single BITE of food too much and my efforts are shot to ****. Already my food intake is quite tight. I eat **** like: a single serving of granola with skim for breakfast. A small salad for lunch with vinaigrette to cut calories. A small serving of dinner. No soda. No junk food. No sweet tea.

And on top of that - the only FITNESS advice is this charming pile of ****: CUT BACK ON THE CARDIO - CARDIO FOR PETITE WOMEN IS BAD (WTF?) . . . and LIFT MORE WEIGHTS.

I ALREADY OUTLIFT A LOT OF THE GODDAMNED GUYS AT THE ****ING GYM - I AM PATHETICALLY AND GROTESQUELY MUSCULAR AND REALLY ****ING HATE IT.

I want to be THIN. I don't want to look like a ****ing dude. I just want to be fit enough to do my DIY **** - lose weight in the means of actual body fat - and live a decent ****ing life.

I'm so ****ed. This is just not going to be possible. Even if I could figure out what my maintenance calorie count IS - it would be impossible to achieve a loss because - you know - ONE BITE of air will make me gain 10 lbs overnight.

Meanwhile - my husband's lost THIRTY ****ING POUNDS. Well good for him - it's obviously easy as **** when you're ****ing TALL.

I was anorexic years ago and I should have stayed that way - because apparently 500 calories a day like what I ate was JUST ****ING FINE.

--
You know what I bet you doesn't exist: a petite woman who lost weight 'the right way' . . . yeah, she's not out there and it's not gonna be me. In goes the towel.

Have you ever considered that the weight you're carrying is muscle mass. Some people build bulky muscle mass, while others build lean muscle mass. You may be one of those who tend towards bulky muscle. Talk to your trainer about your goals and see about going to a exercise program that's focused on lower weights at higher reps. From the sound of things, you're strong as horse (respectfully speaking) and that might actually be your problem with losing weight.


BTW
Militant Vegan just got ****ing happy as hell
Literally made me laugh out loud.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

This might be a rant - I'm not sure.

Like countless people - I'm struggling to lose weight.

...

You know what I bet you doesn't exist: a petite woman who lost weight 'the right way' . . . yeah, she's not out there and it's not gonna be me. In goes the towel.

What others have offered might be the best advice.

Try a few other options on diet / exercise regiments to see if there is an alternate path that works better for your goals. Unfortunately there is going to be a ton of conflicting advice and information on what to eat and how to exercise from the lot of usual suspects, it may take a couple of attempts for you to find what works best for you. One thing you can probably immediately dismiss is just because something worked well for your husband that you should get mirror results.

Give yourself a chance, perhaps take it a little more easy on yourself while looking at options, and do not giving up.

Militant Vegan just got ****ing happy as hell

Don't worry about him. His name alone tells you his motivations, and you should discard anything from someone intentionally militant. It pretty much means civility and interest in others is out the window anyway.
 

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This might be a rant - I'm not sure.

Like countless people - I'm struggling to lose weight.

[Let's dispense with a few assumptions: I don't overeat, according to all the many calorie calculators. I don't snack much. I don't eat huge portions of food. When I saw I was consuming excess calories from sugar in my coffee, I quit coffee and went to tea with no sugar or milk added. I'm fit and work out routinely as I have done for YEARS - all the while actually gaining weight and NOT muscle-mass.

Long story short: In the last few months I've cut calories, trying not to go below 1200 a day because that's supposedly a bad thing to do.

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I'd say the bolded is your problem right there.

Guidelines are guidelines, but we all have individual bodies and metabolisms. Cut-out a couple hundred more calories for a few weeks, and see how you do. You're obviously at a maintenance, rather than reduction intake level. This isn't rocket science - it's basic bio-physics. Cut your calorie intake below what you expend, and you will lose weight irrespective of anything else you are or are not doing. It's that simple.

I was an active and healthy guy working full-time days and going to night school when I was in my 30's, and I managed fine on 800 calories a day for a couple months to lose weight. My weight dropped like a stone, and I subsequently won a weight-loss contest at work involving over a dozen coworkers.

TL;DR if you're not losing at your current caloric intake, cut further.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

I'd say the bolded is your problem right there.

Guidelines are guidelines, but we all have individual bodies and metabolisms. Cut-out a couple hundred more calories for a few weeks, and see how you do. You're obviously at a maintenance, rather than reduction intake level. This isn't rocket science - it's basic bio-physics. Cut your calorie intake below what you expend, and you will lose weight irrespective of anything else you are or are not doing. It's that simple.

I was an active and healthy guy working full-time days and going to night school when I was in my 30's, and I managed fine on 800 calories a day for a couple months to lose weight. My weight dropped like a stone, and I subsequently won a weight-loss contest at work involving over a dozen coworkers.

TL;DR if you're not losing at your current caloric intake, cut further.

Ya, and the more we try to screw with them them more they seem to get back at us. And there was just a huge study that it gets harder to change metabolism and body sculpt as we age. We should always mind what we eat, not be gluttons, but in my opinion once we get of a certain age if we are still obsessing about our bodies, if we are still getting angry about our bodies, then maybe just maybe it is time for a priorities reevaluation.
 

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Ya, and the more we try to screw with them them more they seem to get back at us. And there was just a huge study that it gets harder to change as we age. We should always mind what we eat, not be gluttons, but in my opinion once we get of a certain age if we are still obsessing about our bodies, if we are still getting angry about our bodies, then maybe just maybe it is time for a priorities reevaluation.
And so goes the adage: "You know you're getting old, when your mind makes promises your body can't hold"!
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

This might be a rant - I'm not sure.

Like countless people - I'm struggling to lose weight.

[Let's dispense with a few assumptions: I don't overeat, according to all the many calorie calculators. I don't snack much. I don't eat huge portions of food. When I saw I was consuming excess calories from sugar in my coffee, I quit coffee and went to tea with no sugar or milk added. I'm fit and work out routinely as I have done for YEARS - all the while actually gaining weight and NOT muscle-mass.

Long story short: In the last few months I've cut calories, trying not to go below 1200 a day because that's supposedly a bad thing to do.
I go to the gym 3 times week - between cardio, weight lifting, kettlebells, I'm quite fit.

Still... no weight LOSS (insert the whole: you can't lose weight while building muscles yada yada I know all this crap here) (insert the whole you have to make a calorie deficit of 500 calories a day to lose weight here)]

All the advice - I've read / I've applied / I've followed.

I should see results.

Clearly I'm not. I'm still over 160. Once or twice I've stepped on the scale and I've been like 159 BUT that's not long-lasting enough to count. It's just a tease. Maybe - MAYBE - I've lost 3 - 5 lbs since January? It's hard to say because my bodyweight fluctuates up to 7 lbs every month just due to my cycle and god knows what the hell my cycle is - something obscene and irritating like 'a 24 day cycle'

Anyway... I finally decided 'hey - maybe what works for me is different than what works for everyone else because I'm PETITE. You know - I'm 5' with shoes ON so I had the genius idea that I should research weight loss for SHORT women.

Oh glory - I've read a lot of **** and it all really says the same thing. And it explains a lot. I can eat less than 1200 calories a day safely (which is great) . . . oh but get this:

OVEREATING as much as 40 - that's it - just ****ing 40 CALORIES PER DAY - will make a petite woman of my height GAIN ****ING WEIGHT.
In several sources - books and medical research journals - that's what I've read.

So absolutely NO candy. Not a single bite of fruit for ****'s sake. Nothing - nada. Water and green beans. Militant Vegan just got ****ing happy as hell - but I'm not happy. I'm flaming ****ing pissed that in order to lose weight I have to eat NOTHING.

A single BITE of food too much and my efforts are shot to ****. Already my food intake is quite tight. I eat **** like: a single serving of granola with skim for breakfast. A small salad for lunch with vinaigrette to cut calories. A small serving of dinner. No soda. No junk food. No sweet tea.

And on top of that - the only FITNESS advice is this charming pile of ****: CUT BACK ON THE CARDIO - CARDIO FOR PETITE WOMEN IS BAD (WTF?) . . . and LIFT MORE WEIGHTS.

I ALREADY OUTLIFT A LOT OF THE GODDAMNED GUYS AT THE ****ING GYM - I AM PATHETICALLY AND GROTESQUELY MUSCULAR AND REALLY ****ING HATE IT.

I want to be THIN. I don't want to look like a ****ing dude. I just want to be fit enough to do my DIY **** - lose weight in the means of actual body fat - and live a decent ****ing life.

I'm so ****ed. This is just not going to be possible. Even if I could figure out what my maintenance calorie count IS - it would be impossible to achieve a loss because - you know - ONE BITE of air will make me gain 10 lbs overnight.

Meanwhile - my husband's lost THIRTY ****ING POUNDS. Well good for him - it's obviously easy as **** when you're ****ing TALL.

I was anorexic years ago and I should have stayed that way - because apparently 500 calories a day like what I ate was JUST ****ING FINE.

--
You know what I bet you doesn't exist: a petite woman who lost weight 'the right way' . . . yeah, she's not out there and it's not gonna be me. In goes the towel.

I don't know your age Auntie S., but I've noticed that as I get older I get fatter. I'm a creature of many habits and I eat about the same, exercise the same (probably more, actually) and drink about the same as I've done for 20-30 years and yet I'm now about 20kg/40lbs above the weight that I maintained steadily throughout my 20s and 30s.

My advice would be to keep as fit as you can, eat as healthily as you can (including plenty of fruit!) and leave the statistics to the women's magazines.
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

This might be a rant - I'm not sure.

I'm 52 years old and I work hard (by most standards) to NOT gain weight, and I'd really like to drop about 5 more pounds. In the last 1 to 2 years I've dropped about 10 pounds but now I seem to have hit a plateau and nothing seems to change.

I keep telling myself this one thing.

It took me 50+ years to put this weight on. It's surely not going to melt away in months.

Keep working. Keep trying new things. Don't give up and stuff your face with Krispy Kremes and pizza.

Exercise improves the mind if nothing else. Regular exercise changes the brain to improve memory, thinking skills - Harvard Health Blog - Harvard Health Publications

Exercise helps memory and thinking through both direct and indirect means.

DON'T THROW IN THE TOWEL!!!!
 

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Re: I'm too irritated to think of an apt title. How about: Aunt Spiker's freaking pis

In addition to eating less and working out more, what worked for me - when I found myself approaching overweight at the end of college - was:

1. Cut all beverages containing calories, other than (1) milk, (2) unsweetened vegetable juice, (3) alcoholic drinks. [I'll die before I completely give up whiskey]

2. Cut all highly processed foods, and in fact, all pre-prepared foods (other than the occasional restaurant meal as treat). Cut even moderately processed foods.

3. Reduce, but not eliminate carbs. Replace with more veggies/meats/fatty meats.

Anyway, even if you find it impossible to lose weight, keep working out, etc. At least you won't be gaining weight, and it pays to be mobile and quick-witted into your old age.


Now, not everyone may have the same mileage. I happen to have a very good metabolism.
 
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