"I'm going to move to _____ if Trump wins"

[AlbqOwl]

I wonder if there's something in the water that makes it impossible for some to see that some make no distinctions.

Bingo. You got it. That is exactly what I was arguing. Some make no distinction. i.e.:
--If you oppose Islamofacist terrorists, you will be accused of hating Muslims.
--If you point out that most--not all but most--terrorist acts in our time are committed by Islamofacists, you will be accused of condemning all Muslims.
--If you support having some way to vet and ferret out the Islamofacist terrorists among Muslim refugees entering the country, you are accused of discriminating against Muslims.

We could have much more constructive discussions about all this, if more people could make distinctions between what is being argued and what is not.

 

[BitterPill]

Awareness is not hatred. But you have to tell yourself it is.

Is that how you make it work?

 

[Tigerace117]

Bingo. You got it. That is exactly what I was arguing. Some make no distinction. i.e.:
--If you oppose Islamofacist terrorists, you will be accused of hating Muslims.
--If you point out that most--not all but most--terrorist acts in our time are committed by Islamofacists, you will be accused of condemning all Muslims.
--If you support having some way to vet and ferret out the Islamofacist terrorists among Muslim refugees entering the country, you are accused of discriminating against Muslims.

We could have much more constructive discussions about all this, if more people could make distinctions between what is being argued and what is not.

Ah, but it goes both ways. I could spell out how, but I'm pretty sure you catch my drift.

 

[coldjoint]

Is that how you make it work?

No, that is what it is. Tell me what do find positive in Islam?

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

Me personally, I am not going anywhere...but you got to admit, the thought of Trump as president is kinda scary, and a whole lot embarrassing.

I think this whole " Reality Show 2016 Election Cycle" was pretty embarrassing for everyone.

Not one person behaved with dignity, but maybe that is the direction our American culture is headed.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

The top countries people would move to if Trump got elected, based on Google search results.

69,100 Canada
1,070 Mexico
435 Germany
293 Australia
12 United Kingdom
9 France
7 Israel
6 Sweden
5 Denmark
5 Argentina
5 China
4 Iceland
4 New Zealand
4 Japan
4 Ecuador

Good. More jobs for our folks looking for jobs.

 

[Mr Person]

we've started to look into it

perfect climate, stable economy, good medical care

we don't speak Spanish but apparently that is not a problem

It was the top country to retire to in 2015

Here's a quick quote from Forbes:

Hmmm.

Perhaps I ought confess ignorance as to the state of things in Ecuador. I was under the impression that it was not such a nice place, in many areas.

 

[_Sal]

Hmmm.

Perhaps I ought confess ignorance as to the state of things in Ecuador. I was under the impression that it was not such a nice place, in many areas.

I'm with you...my guy mentioned it several months ago and I said no f'ing way am I moving to the a-hole of the world even with you

then he showed me

now we have to research to see if they allow animals and if there is quarantine etc

he is my home really so where he goes I would go

I'm just not telling him that.

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

If I had to leave the United States-- and Trump getting elected isn't enough to do that-- the only country I would seriously consider is Estonia.

 

[poweRob]

I honestly only want people that want to be here. I'm sure Trump would be happy to buy the plane tickets for those traitors that want to leave

I'm absolutely positive you felt the same way when ol' rushbo said this:

"I'll just tell you this, if this passes and it's five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented -- I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica."​

There you go Bucky... Let's see your consistency and watch you attack that unAmerican traitor!

 

[poweRob]

Yeah, I think I'll move to Nevada.

Smart. Being that him being prez is an absolute gamble where you are most likely going to lose. Well played sir!

 

[MorrisDay]

Smart. Being that him being prez is an absolute gamble where you are most likely going to lose. Well played sir!

I'm sure some folks will move to where the jobs are. If Trump does what he says, they will be coming back to the U.S.

I'm just wondering if people will be moving to these same places if/when Hillary gets elected

 

[poweRob]

I'm sure some folks will move to where the jobs are. If Trump does what he says, they will be coming back to the U.S.

I'm just wondering if people will be moving to these same places if/when Hillary gets elected

Nobody's going anywhere. It's all election year bull**** talk. The election will happen, everyone will wake up the next day and do the same damn thing they've been doing.

 

[MorrisDay]

Nobody's going anywhere. It's all election year bull**** talk. The election will happen, everyone will wake up the next day and do the same damn thing they've been doing.

I'm ok with that!

 

[azgreg]

I'm absolutely positive you felt the same way when ol' rushbo said this:

"I'll just tell you this, if this passes and it's five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented -- I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica."​

There you go Bucky... Let's see your consistency and watch you attack that unAmerican traitor!

I'm a bit disappointed Nugent broke his promise.

 

[poweRob]

I'm a bit disappointed Nugent broke his promise.

I think its funny that those die-hard conservatives think they are rebellious "patriots" when they make the threat but think liberals are unAmerican traitors when they make the same threat.

 

[zimmer]

The top countries people would move to if Trump got elected, based on Google search results.

69,100 Canada
1,070 Mexico
435 Germany
293 Australia
12 United Kingdom
9 France
7 Israel
6 Sweden
5 Denmark
5 Argentina
5 China
4 Iceland
4 New Zealand
4 Japan
4 Ecuador

Poor Canadians always at the receiving end of American dregs.
Why not go to North Korea?
Venezuela?
Or some other Socialist Paradise?

 

[DA60]

Where are you moving to? I hope it's a place without internet access.

That seemed a bit harsh.

 

[Cyrylek]

I don't know about moving (hate packing), but Canada (even - expletives - Trudeau Canada), or Australia, or Switzerland are likely to be better places, for those who value freedom and decency, than the hypothetical Trump's America. They are already well ahead of us in terms of actual capitalism, all-things-considered economic freedom: Index of Economic Freedom: Promoting Economic Opportunity and Prosperity by Country

Now imagine the psychotic bozo actually throwing a monkey wrench into the gears of international trade, actually staging a nation-wide Mexican pogrom, actually applying the "golden wrecking ball" to the First Amendment by banning travel of Muslims and going after the media that "wronged" him, etc?

I know, I know - there is a chance that all this is just a cynical plot, a device to get elected (works beautifully, we have to admit). In reality, Mr.Trump may be still a fairly conventional Clintonite crony-capitalist Democrat (yuk), as he had always been. But I am not thrilled with the idea of playing Russian roulette with the fate of my country...

 

[zimmer]

I don't know about moving (hate packing), but Canada (even - expletives - Trudeau Canada), or Australia, or Switzerland are likely to be better places, for those who value freedom and decency, than the hypothetical Trump's America. They are already well ahead of us in terms of actual capitalism, all-things-considered economic freedom: Index of Economic Freedom: Promoting Economic Opportunity and Prosperity by Country

Now imagine the psychotic bozo actually throwing a monkey wrench into the gears of international trade, actually staging a nation-wide Mexican pogrom, actually applying the "golden wrecking ball" to the First Amendment by banning travel of Muslims and going after the media that "wronged" him, etc?

I know, I know - there is a chance that all this just a cynical plot, a device to get elected (works beautifully, we have to admit). In reality, Mr.Trump may be still a fairly conventional Clintonite crony-capitalist Democrat (yuk), as he had always been. But I am not thrilled with the idea of playing Russian roulette with the fate of my country...

Countries ahead of America in Capitalism isn't due to Trump... It's due to 50-years of idiotic Socialist legislation.

Banning immigration is not illegal, and specifically a group responsible for most terrorist acts. We've done it before, and... Ike got rid of millions of illegals from Mexico.

We can and should stop immigration from such groups until we get a grip on the situation here... And can figure out who is coming into the country.

And...

Muslims should blame Muslims for being barred from entry for as long as it takes to get a grip on the situation... Not Trump or any responsible politician who takes the oath to protect America and Americans from "enemies foreign and domestic".

 

[Cyrylek]

Countries ahead of America in Capitalism isn't due to Trump... It's due to 50-years of idiotic Socialist legislation..

Agreed. But what Trump is proposing is MORE idiotic Socialist legislation (or just Presidential rule by fiat - Obama multiplied by 10)

Banning immigration is not illegal, and specifically a group responsible for most terrorist acts.

Last time I checked, Mexicans -legal or illegal - were responsible for exactly 0% of terrorist acts on American soil. As for Muslims - do we have, as a nation, better friends anywhere in the world (outside of the Anglo-Saxon diaspora and Poland) than Kurds and Albanians? They are also Mulsims, you know. And what about Indonesia - the largest Muslim country in the world? - Ever heard about any Indonesian terrorists?

Muslims should blame Muslims for being barred from entry for as long as it takes to get a grip on the situation.

Sorry, but this is complete BS. If I am an American partner of a Bangladeshi businessman (ever heard of Bengali terrorists?) who has to come to Boston to discuss confidential details of a joint venture, and he is barred from entry, and nothing happens...I am not going to blame some abstract Muslims. I am going to blame the bleeping xenophobic idiots who are in charge - nobody else.

 

[zimmer]

Agreed. But what Trump is proposing is MORE idiotic Socialist legislation (or just Presidential rule by fiat - Obama multiplied by 10)



Last time I checked, Mexicans -legal or illegal - were responsible for exactly 0% of terrorist acts on American soil. As for Muslims - do we have, as a nation, better friends anywhere in the world (outside of the Anglo-Saxon diaspora and Poland) than Kurds and Albanians? They are also Mulsims, you know. And what about Indonesia - the largest Muslim country in the world? - Ever heard about any Indonesian terrorists?




Sorry, but this is complete BS. If I am an American partner of a Bangladeshi businessman (ever heard of Bengali terrorists?) who has to wants to Boston to discuss confidential details of joint venture, and he is barred from entry, and nothing happens...I am not going to blame some abstract Muslims. I am going to blame the bleeping xenophobic idiots who are in charge - nobody else.

1. Stopping ObamaKare is the opposite of Socialist legislation. It's killing, and it's important it's killed. Demokrats won't. Trump said he will. I believe he'll try damn hard.

2. Trump more socialist by 10 than Obama... ROTFLOL... I suggest a new drug.

3. Mexicans/Latino's are flooding America. They're illegal, and they commit murders, join gangs and have brought disease. We do not know who these people are. They do not belong here.

4. Muslims are responsible for mass terrorism throughout the world... Including America.

5. He might be barred from entry and might not. Nothing is stopping you from doing business with him... It's possible without him entering the country. And, due to the situation... It might take a looooong time for him to get a visa. That's what happens (or should) when one known group is a threat to society.

6. Abstract Muslims ARE responsible for terrorism. Security is JOB #1 of our government... Not this one, but it's what they pledged an oath to.

 

[AltRight]

The top countries people would move to if Trump got elected, based on Google search results.

69,100 Canada
1,070 Mexico
435 Germany
293 Australia
12 United Kingdom
9 France
7 Israel
6 Sweden
5 Denmark
5 Argentina
5 China
4 Iceland
4 New Zealand
4 Japan
4 Ecuador

Why are they moving to Canada over Mexico? Its not like its war torn ****hole right?

 

[Renae]

The top countries people would move to if Trump got elected, based on Google search results.

69,100 Canada
1,070 Mexico
435 Germany
293 Australia
12 United Kingdom
9 France
7 Israel
6 Sweden
5 Denmark
5 Argentina
5 China
4 Iceland
4 New Zealand
4 Japan
4 Ecuador

While I'm not moving, the Philippines isn't a bad option to consider for people.

 

[clownboy]

yeahright. Tell us how to make a successful society. Tell us how to create an atmosphere of community and co-operation and mutual respect. Warn us against the risks and hazards you've avoided. Who wouldn't want tobe instructed in how to emulate your example.

Heh, your problems are coming. You been sheltered thus far and have been very busy eroding that shelter. Once again, Canada has all the resources and room that the US had, almost identical land mass, but with one tenth the population. So you have as a result 10 times the natural resources per capita as folks in the US.

You are in a great position to see what the future holds and to avoid the mistakes we have made with resource usage. Problem is, you haven't learned. You're using the resources in the same way we did 100 years ago, taking the profit and tying those profits to your social structures. Just like 100 years ago in the US, things are peachy. But when your population grows and outstrips your ability to fund it using natural resources, you'll be in an even worse situation than the US is now.