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Illegal Immigrants...

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In another thread we had a little debate to see if there actually can be an illegal immigrant.

Well, I say that there obviously is such a thing as an illegal immigrant. What do you think..?
 

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They're immigrants and they're illegal, so..................




With that being said it's nothing more than a battle of semantics and no one wins those.
 

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In another thread we had a little debate to see if there actually can be an illegal immigrant.

Well, I say that there obviously is such a thing as an illegal immigrant. What do you think..?

I do not care about illegal immigration and I don't think I ever will. It's way way way down there in terms of priorities for me.
 

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There are people who fit the two definitions, and our elected officials let them.:lamo

immigrant :" person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence"
illegal: "not allowed by the law : not legal"
 

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In another thread we had a little debate to see if there actually can be an illegal immigrant.

Well, I say that there obviously is such a thing as an illegal immigrant. What do you think..?

An immigrant (alien) that complied with all the immigration laws of the country to which they immigrated is a legal immigrant.

An immigrant (alien) that did not comply with the immigration laws of the country to which they immigrated is considered either an illegal immigrant, or even though the PC crowd says it isn't politically correct, they are officially called an illegal alien as described by the law and federal regulations (notice that the PC crowd got the Administration to add the term "undocumented" even though that terminology is not found in the law or the regulation):

Illegal Alien
Also known as an "Undocumented Alien," is an alien who has entered the United States illegally and is deportable if apprehended, or an alien who entered the United States legally but who has fallen "out of status" and is deportable.


Breaking the law makes them illegal.
 
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In another thread we had a little debate to see if there actually can be an illegal immigrant.

Well, I say that there obviously is such a thing as an illegal immigrant. What do you think..?

The technical term for said border jumpers is unlawful alien or simply alien. Immigration implies permission. People don't like the term. Tough.
 

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In another thread we had a little debate to see if there actually can be an illegal immigrant.

Well, I say that there obviously is such a thing as an illegal immigrant. What do you think..?

What kind of retard thinks there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant or illegal alien?
 

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What kind of retard thinks there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant or illegal alien?

It's not about the person, it's about the label.
 

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It is an issue so easily corrected that it shames me we spend so much time on it. It's like abortion and school prayer. Hot button issues meant to inflame.
 

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It's not about the person, it's about the label.

The label is appropriated.If someone is here illegally in this country then they are an illegal, illegal alien or illegal immigrant. No ifs ands or buts about it.Just as some who robs a bank is labeled a bank robber. Or someone who has sex for money is a prostitute or if they have sex for money in front of a camera then that person is a porn star.
 

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Devil's advocate. I guess it depends on how semantically anal we want to be. For example:

The label is appropriated.If someone is here illegally in this country then they are an illegal, illegal alien or illegal immigrant. No ifs ands or buts about it.Just as some who robs a bank is labeled a bank robber. Or someone who has sex for money is a prostitute or if they have sex for money in front of a camera then that person is a porn star.

But we don't refer to robbers and prostitutes as being illegal. We say what they DID was illegal. How can a human being be illegal? Their actions are. A person can immigrate illegally or legally but refering to theperson as being illegal or legal doesn't make sense, semantically.
 

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Devil's advocate. I guess it depends on how semantically anal we want to be. For example:



But we don't refer to robbers and prostitutes as being illegal. We say what they DID was illegal. How can a human being be illegal? Their actions are. A person can immigrate illegally or legally but refering to theperson as being illegal or legal doesn't make sense, semantically.

illegal or illegals is just short for illegal immigrants or illegal aliens.


Illegal | Define Illegal at Dictionary.com

noun
3.
Informal. illegal alien.


noun
3.
a person who has entered or attempted to enter a country illegally
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What kind of retard thinks there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant or illegal alien?

legalimmigrant does... that is what prompted this thread. He insists that there is no such term.
 

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legalimmigrant does... that is what prompted this thread. He insists that there is no such term.

Then that person is a lying sack of ****.
 

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In another thread we had a little debate to see if there actually can be an illegal immigrant.

Well, I say that there obviously is such a thing as an illegal immigrant. What do you think..?

If they are immigrants and they came here illegally they are Illegal Immigrants.
 

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Devil's advocate. I guess it depends on how semantically anal we want to be. For example:

But we don't refer to robbers and prostitutes as being illegal. We say what they DID was illegal. How can a human being be illegal? Their actions are. A person can immigrate illegally or legally but refering to theperson as being illegal or legal doesn't make sense, semantically.

One cannot be a legal murderer nor a legal burglar.

One can be a Legal Immigrant. Or an Illegal Immigrant.
 

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Some people flaunt the Rule of Law and some people abide by it.
 
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