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If you think the BP spill is bad, then think again.

danarhea

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The Niger delta has has oil spills of at least the size of the Exxon Valdez every year for the last 50 years. But, then again, oil company recklessness has finally come to America. Are we going to put a stop to it, and regulate the industry properly, or will Louisiana, along with the rest of the Gulf Coast, look like this, sometime in the future?



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From this article.
 

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Totally agree with you,out of sight,out of mind springs to mind,until it finally happens on the US doorstep and affects them directly.

I brought up Bhopal on another thread and it didn't go down to well with some poster's on here,the people of Bhopal are still waiting for justice 25 years later.

By the way,i fully support Obama's tough stance on BP,they should be made to pay for the current crisis.
 

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Wow - that's so ****ed up.

Likely someone who doesn't mind our continual casual destruction of parts of the planet with oil-spattering would pinpoint little details from the article in an effort to derail and distract from the issue. . . such as pointing out some mathamatic issues.

I'm just now, like so many other people, realizing how full of **** this entire issues is - and how pathetic it is that things continue and are never fully taken care of.

What we're fed: We have the technology, we have the power and the ability to tap into all this oil and process it for you! It's a safe and simple process.

Reality: That's a bunch of bull****, The only thing that matters is oil oil oil - not even that - it's profit profit profit.
 

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Amazing how something over here has to happen first before any light is shed on a similar but much worse situation somewhere else.
 

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God I hope it doesn't turn out like the Niger delta has. I wonder if anything can be done for the Niger delta or is it too late for them?
 

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Well, drill has costs. Sad to think we let that go unprotested.
 

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It is sad that the oil industry has all the technology it needs to make drilling for oil a very safe endeavor. The catastrophe in the gulf need not have become and out of control event. I blame a lot of this spill on the constant wrangling between enviromentalists and the oil industry and the governments poor job of refereeing the fight. If we are going to allow drilling we need to open it up more but of course with limits. Just reasonable limits. We should make it less costly to get permits to drill but much more costly for the actual drilling by enforcing back up systems and safety measures.
 

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Just how are we going to regulate anything that occurs in the Niger delta?

The problem is not really lack of regulation, it is lack of enforcement of already existing regulation.
 

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We can't regulate - we can assist.

one HUGE assist that Obama can lend is to take a few moments in a speech or address of some type about the oil spill/oil company issues in general to say something like:
"Let's not overlook, however, that this BP spill isn't the only massive spill to continue on. In Nigeria for the past ___ years they've been struggling with the disastrous consequences of big-oil oversight, lack of responsibility and gross lack of concern for a people and their environment . . ."

he could even add in a comparative to actually further his own anti-oil agenda:
"We must learn from the environmental disaster in Nigeria and keep their hardship in mind while we assess our system and pinpoint our problems so we can fix them and ensure they will never happen again. . . "

and then back on about our issue.

Woosh - firestorm.

It wouldn't take much - he's a very VERY prominent figure.
 

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The Niger delta has has oil spills of at least the size of the Exxon Valdez every year for the last 50 years. But, then again, oil company recklessness has finally come to America. Are we going to put a stop to it, and regulate the industry properly, or will Louisiana, along with the rest of the Gulf Coast, look like this, sometime in the future?



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From this article.
Really? We have had ONE major oil well disaster in how many years? And maybe the reason isnt because they were drilling but because of mindless regulations that forced them to drill a mile down and not where it is much more accessable and manageable. So MAYBE its a little early to go all gloom and doom.

YES this is a tragedy and YES by damn they should plug the damn leak and should make damn sure our practices are checked and rechecked...but this is not the norm...its very MUCH not the norm.
 

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If the Gulf were not so tightly regulated, then it would more closely resemble the Niger delta where the same oil companies are less constrained by laws.
 
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If the Gulf were not so tightly regulated, then it would more closely resemble the Niger delta where the same oil companies are less constrained by laws.
Hogwash. No sane person advocates REMOVING ALL regulations. Intelligent and sane drilling regulations is not what drove them to the deepwater depths. It was the legislation that banned them from the more shallow and closer to shore wells...the massive land based deposits in the west...Alaska... its not an all or nothing proposition.
 
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Hogwash. No sane person advocates REMOVING ALL regulations. Intelligent and sane drilling regulations is not what drove them to the deepwater depths. It was the legislation that banned them from the more shallow and closer to shore wells...the massive land based deposits in the west...Alaska... its not an all or nothing proposition.
Oil companies will drill anywhere and everywhere that is profitable. Opening up shallow water or ANWR would just mean they'd drill there in addition to the deep water rigs. Not to mention the utterly miniscule effect on our total output that these rigs would add.


(this graph would look even funnier if it were of global consumption)

More drilling isn't the answer to any of our problems.
 
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Oil companies will drill anywhere and everywhere that is profitable. Opening up shallow water or ANWR would just mean they'd drill there in addition to the deep water rigs. Not to mention the utterly miniscule effect on our total output that these rigs would add.


(this graph would look even funnier if it were of global consumption)

More drilling isn't the answer to any of our problems.
More drilling IS the answer until we have developed viable alternative fuel sources. Or...turn off your AC ...your computer...your lights...park your scooter...and only use solar powered 'clean' fuel. Stop contributing to the problem. Hell if you and all those that are opposed to the fossil fuel use would just stop USING it those requirements would drop in half. So walk the walk...or be intelligent and realistic.

Other nations WILL drill...and if we dont...we will just remain DEPENDENT on those countries.

By ALL MEANS...we should be developing clean fuel. But until that day arrives where we no longer need it...we NEED it.
 

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Really? We have had ONE major oil well disaster in how many years?
According to the Minerals Management Service, there have been 39 oil rig blowouts in the Gulf of Mexico since 1996; 18 were attributed to poor workmanship injecting cement around the metal pipe.

And maybe the reason isnt because they were drilling but because of mindless regulations that forced them to drill a mile down and not where it is much more accessable and manageable.
Or maybe the people operating the rigs are profit-driven idiots who (a) don't know what they're supposed to be doing, (b) don't know how to do what they're supposed to be doing, and/or (c) just don't give a ****.

YES this is a tragedy and YES by damn they should plug the damn leak and should make damn sure our practices are checked and rechecked...but this is not the norm...its very MUCH not the norm.
Offshore blowouts are fairly common, all around the world.
 
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