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IF vaccinations work........

Joe can say whatever. It's not a law.

Trump said it was a hoax, so....
The hoax was to get him out of office to play it up like it was the plague. It worked. Libbies are beside themselves with fear.
 
No, but it's essentially an honor system. A fair number of large retailers are taking this approach as well, and my assumption is they're not so much going off of whether people will do the right thing, but the efficacy of vaccines for those who have them. Time will tell how effective this approach is, and with that seed of doubt as to who in your shared space is vaccinated or not, it might motivate the procrastinators to get vaccinated. We shall see.

I assure you, this will lead to a spread of Covid not an increase in vaccinations.

Not only that, this action will create a laboratory for Covid to learn to evade the vaccine as vaccinated people will be infected with Covid from the unmasked deplorables.
 
I assure you, this will lead to a spread of Covid not an increase in vaccinations.

Not only that, this action will create a laboratory for Covid to learn to evade the vaccine as vaccinated people will be infected with Covid from the unmasked deplorables.

We'll see how it plays out. As it stands now we have dropping rates and easing of restrictions in some states without any surges, which is why I'm cautiously optimistic. I do think that if there is a surge across some areas, there's a good chance it will not be as big or impact healthcare services as badly.
 
We'll see how it plays out. As it stands now we have dropping rates and easing of restrictions in some states without any surges, which is why I'm cautiously optimistic. I do think that if there is a surge across some areas, there's a good chance it will not be as big or impact healthcare services as badly.

I agree... until a vaccine evading strain is birthed. Then the shit will hit the fan again and Trumpists will be directly to blame.
 
I agree... until a vaccine evading strain is birthed. Then the shit will hit the fan again and Trumpists will be directly to blame.

I will say though, that the people not getting vaccinated or continue to procrastinate is not a monolith along political lines. People who are skeptical of vaccines are found in varying political leans; and there's always the herd immunity free riders.
 
I'm just repeating what Joe said. And Joe expects everyone to comply
Wanting or hoping people are honest is not the same as expecting everyone to comply.

It too bad some people think not getting vaccinated is a way to punish President Trump for his help with operation warp speed to find an effective Covid vaccine.

I just don’t understand , but I guess it is a political game to some of them.

They don’t understand their live’s and their loved ones live’s could be on the line.
 
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How dothey know this? Where is the testing? How do they know someone didn't get it from Mary or Jack?


Contact tracing.

A choir decided to go ahead with rehearsal. Now dozens of members have COVID-19 and two are dead

After 2½ hours, the singers parted ways at 9 p.m.

Nearly three weeks later, 45 have been diagnosed with COVID-19 or ill with the symptoms, at least three have been hospitalized, and two are dead.

The outbreak has stunned county health officials, who have concluded that the virus was almost certainly transmitted through the air from one or more people without symptoms.




Multiple COVID-19 Outbreaks Linked to a Wedding Reception in Rural Maine — August 7–September 14, 2020



185 coronavirus (COVID-19) cases now linked to outbreak at East Lansing bar
143 of 185 infected people were customers at Harper's Restaurant and Brew Pub

 
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Read my post....those who DIE from Covid....not those who get it. Those who do get it are the lucky ones actually. They are immune. Tell me I'm wrong, nurse year2late. Did you also hear that those who got Covid are better off than those who got the vaccine?
What don't you understand. We have had many 40-60 year olds that were working prior to being hospitalized....intubated and ventilated -dont you think many of them died? You act like only the old and the infirm succumbed to the disease. Luckily protocols and education have helped the survival rates for all.
 
Don’t make the mistake of assuming conservatives and Trump voters are the same population.

As well I read your statement to mean that conservatives as a population are morons and liberals are intelligent. That’s more what I was responding to.
That is a valid point. Trump is 180 degrees opposite of conservative.

Yet its only conservatives who cannot come to grips with basic well known facts. The guy cheats on his wife, pays porn stars for sex, runs up $8T worth of debt, hired Chinese to make stuff he could have had made in America--by Americans, calls people names like a third grader, etc.. etc... And many still worship this despicable pervert. If that doesn't make them morons....you tell me what does that make them? That is the rank and file...

But lets look at the actual people they voted for:

The US House GOP caucus--chocked full of people who identify as conservatives--just ousted one of the most conservative people from it's leadership. They replaced Lynn Cheney with Elise Stefanik. Cheney voted with Trump 95.8% of the time. Stefanik? 89.6% of the time.


The reason Stefanik replaced Cheney was because Stefanik buys into the Big Lie. These "conservatives" threw out the voting records over this one matter--whether or not the election was "stolen" and who believes it.

Again...If that doesn't make them morons....you tell me what does that make them?
 
CNN was. That's fer sure. So were MSNBS, the NY Times, WaPo, and the DNC. Do you listen to anyone other than them?

Thought not.

80%? Where did you get that from? Out of your posterior?
It's not my fault that Trump was a worthless ****.
 
Read my post....those who DIE from Covid....not those who get it. Those who do get it are the lucky ones actually. They are immune. Tell me I'm wrong, nurse year2late. Did you also hear that those who got Covid are better off than those who got the vaccine?

What don't you understand. We have had many 40-60 year olds that were working prior to being hospitalized....intubated and ventilated -dont you think many of them died? You act like only the old and the infirm succumbed to the disease. Luckily protocols and education have helped the survival rates for all.
I agree.

Risk for COVID-19 Infection, Hospitalization, and Death By Age Group
Updated Feb. 18,

All rates are relative to the 5—17-year-old age category.
Sample interpretation: Compared with 5—17-year-olds,

the rate of hospitalizations is 10 times higher in the 30 - 39 year olds.
the rate of death is 45 times higher in 30—39-year-olds


See chart.

 
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I heard a report that those who contracted Covid are more immune than those who got a vaccine. Perhaps you could do a Google search on it.
I googled please post your own link because I am pretty sure you heard wrong.

This is 2 days ago


The Pfizer vaccine is designed to stimulate the immune system to produce antibodies, just as if you were exposed to the virus. However, with the vaccine, you don't get have to get the virus first to get those antibodies and develop a level of immunity.
According to the CDC, some people might prefer natural infection to vaccination for that immunity, but the risk of illness and death from the virus outweighs "any benefits of natural immunity." ...
Another benefit of the vaccination is a decreased risk of transmission and, potentially, variants. With a variant, the less transmission a virus gets means the less chance it has for replication. In turn, there’s less risk of a variant forming.
 
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I am NOT sick. How many times do I need to repeat this? Do you know that there is a report I just heard that those who caught COVID and beat it are more immune than those who got the vaccine. I could be one of them since I wasn't feeling well a while back and never saw the doctor.
Have you been tested? If not you have no way of knowing if you're a carrier or not.
 
If you're afraid, then you should wear The Mask® and you should Social Distance™ and you should spend all your disposable income on handi-wipes and hand sanitizer..

Just because you're afraid of the dark, it doesn't logically follow that I should stay indoors during hours of darkness,
That's why ~ 3.4 million humans have died from COVID.
 
Asymptomatic means you have no symptoms so you are not even aware you have it unless you had a nasal swab test and tested positive for Covid there would be no way to tell.

In the past people who spread a coronavirus were always sympathetic.

That’s why travel bans and temperature checks were used and were able to help contain the SARS virus.


Scientists and doctors ( and yes , they also most likely mistakenly misled President Trump ) did not understand the Covid 19 virus was also spread by people who never showed symptoms of being sick.

Last year ( our Attorney General ,) said that we didn’t realize in March how easily the virus could spread from asymptomatic people.
They don't care.
 
If herd immunity isn't reach, the virus may have the opportunity to mutate into a strain that is vaccine resistant, and possibly deadlier.

You mean like during the Spanish Flu days when there was NO vaccine?
 
Have you been tested? If not you have no way of knowing if you're a carrier or not.

How long do you carry for snake?

Besides liberals/Most moderates get the vaccine
 
How long do you carry for snake?

Besides liberals/Most moderates get the vaccine
Most normal sensible and responsible people get vaccinated. The idiots who don't endanger everyone else. Why is it that those idiots all seem to be conservatives?
 
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