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If Trump wins a Second Term, whose fault will it be?

If Trump wins a 2nd Term, whose fault will it be?

  • Bernie Sanders for not turning out his people.

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Multiple choices allowed. Btw, setting up polls is much better under the new system.
 

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I object to the term "win."
 

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The Dems fault for never fighting until...1,2,3,4,5...___

Just like Hillary didn't fight for the battleground states that got Trump elected. Trump couldn't possibly win a 2nd term w/o Hillary, heiress apparent, giving away the 1st.
 

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LOL!!

You make it sound like a bad thing.

Well, it's bad for those of us who don't want America to become a right-wing, post-apocalyptic dictatorship -- where science is irrelevant, facts are subjective, plagues are unchecked out of political convenience, and where police are cracking the skulls of protesters while armed right-wing militias roam the streets... and about a thousand other things too terrible to mention.
 

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Well, it's bad for those of us who don't want America to become a right-wing, post-apocalyptic dictatorship -- where science is irrelevant, facts are subjective, plagues are unchecked out of political convenience, and where police are cracking the skulls of protesters while armed right-wing militias roam the streets... and about a thousand other things too terrible to mention.
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It's a combination. Trump obviously couldn't be President if the GOP didn't nominate him.

Probably if she had run a better campaign or been a better candidate, Hilldog could have won.

The Bernie Bros own a bit of it with their protest votes for Trump, though it's hard to say how much.
 

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Right. Then the sky fell and no one believed it because no one believes anything -- due to the the right-wing having pumped as much nonsense into the information stream as possible. Right-wingers have openly stated that this is their goal: 'Operation: Flood the Zone with Shit'.

By the way, all of the threats I indicated were not pulled out of thin air. I said them for a reason; namely that many of them, if not all of them, are happening.
 

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Well, it's bad for those of us who don't want America to become a right-wing, post-apocalyptic dictatorship -- where science is irrelevant, facts are subjective, plagues are unchecked out of political convenience, and where police are cracking the skulls of protesters while armed right-wing militias roam the streets... and about a thousand other things too terrible to mention.

I know our press likes to make it look like things are really just out of control and bodies are being left on the curb so sanitation workers can pick them up, but it really isn’t like that. The only places that are completely out of control are places where Dem governors and mayors sided against their own police and now are at a loss as how to stop the continued violence without them.
 

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Multiple choices allowed. Btw, setting up polls is much better under the new system.

Well, the failure to win is generally the fault of the person who failed, is it not? Let us for the moment put aside unproven and unfalsifiable accusations of cheating, voter fraud and voter suppression. If the Democrats fail to take either the Presidency or the Senate, then they clearly failed to put forward candidates that enough people in enough states found palatable and desirable to vote for. I cannot see how that is anyone's fault but theirs.
 

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I know our press likes to make it look like things are really just out of control and bodies are being left on the curb so sanitation workers can pick them up, but it really isn’t like that. The only places that are completely out of control are places where Dem governors and mayors sided against their own police and now are at a loss as how to stop the continued violence without them.

I don't listen to the talking heads, except out disdain, and I know things are actually far worse than the media reports. The violence is largely perpetrated by the right-wing, who are virtually unchecked -- and even applauded -- by law enforcement. I mentioned nothing about bodies; try addressing the issues I alluded to that are actually taking place under Trump. There's no need to exaggerate, things are actually that bad and would get far worse with a second term. Trump cannot run government, only destroy it from within with the assistance of the conservative movement.
 

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Other. How is it anyone’s “fault” that a candidate running for POTUS is elected?
 

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Because he's running against the election and not against Biden. That's not "winning" an election.
No. He is running against Biden. Just as Biden is running against him. One of them will win. The other will lose.
 

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History will record in 100 years that the initial proximate cause for the Donald Trump era will lay at the insatiable ego of Hillary Clinton and her husband's destructive political machine.
 

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No. He is running against Biden. Just as Biden is running against him. One of them will win. The other will lose.

No. He's repeated that he's going to use the courts to stop states from counting the ballots, and is exploring asking state legislatures to appoint faithless electors in case the state goes to Biden. He also had his postmaster general gut the post office to try to stop ballots from arriving in time.

That's not a man who's running against a political opponent. That's a man who's running against democracy.

So in light of that, I object to the notion that he would "win" an election since he's not trying to compete in one.
 

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Trump is using his incumbency like no previous president - holding his convention at the White House (Hatch Act violation), holding political rally's and ignoring the guidelines set by his own WH Coronavirus Team, tearing down the USPS ahead of what will certainly be the heaviest mail-vote in US history, turning what are supposed to be daily coronavirus briefings into daily propaganda sessions, the generous usage of racist dog whistles, interfering with the CDC and the FDA for political purposes, yada, yada, yada.
 

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Liberals make strange comments at times. I wish they would stick to the facts though.
 

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Whose fault is it that the Democratics nominated a Namenda dependent addled old fool simply on the basis of name recognition who could be manipulated?
And because his opponents had no appeal whatsoever anyway.
I guess when your Party is built to exploit class differences rather than what's best for the Country it's tough to settle on 1 candidate who appeals to everyone.
So you'd have to say OTHER because it's the fault of the Party that considers themselves the ruling class, but that specific option wasn't offered.
 

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Well, it's bad for those of us who don't want America to become a right-wing, post-apocalyptic dictatorship -- where science is irrelevant, facts are subjective, plagues are unchecked out of political convenience, and where police are cracking the skulls of protesters while armed right-wing militias roam the streets... and about a thousand other things too terrible to mention.


Pretty much my thoughts

Republican policy
You are on your on. Root hog or die.
Health care. The best you can afford
Social Security & Medicare. With our tax cuts we just can't afford it
Income inequality. Hell every American has the opportunity to become a millionaire.
Taxes and The Federal Debt. Doesn't really matter what the government has to borrow to pay for.my tax cut.
Environment.
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) head Scott Pruitt said his desire to use the Earth's resources like oil and coal is grounded in the Bible.

In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network published Thursday, Pruitt spoke about how his Christian views inform his views on the environment and environmental policy.

"The biblical world view with respect to these issues is that we have a responsibility to manage and cultivate, harvest the natural resources that we've been blessed with to truly bless our fellow mankind," he told CBN's David Brody?
 

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Pretty much my thoughts

Republican policy
You are on your on. Root hog or die.
Health care. The best you can afford
Social Security & Medicare. With our tax cuts we just can't afford it
Income inequality. Hell every American has the opportunity to become a millionaire.
Taxes and The Federal Debt. Doesn't really matter what the government has to borrow to pay for.my tax cut.
Environment.
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) head Scott Pruitt said his desire to use the Earth's resources like oil and coal is grounded in the Bible.

In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network published Thursday, Pruitt spoke about how his Christian views inform his views on the environment and environmental policy.

"The biblical world view with respect to these issues is that we have a responsibility to manage and cultivate, harvest the natural resources that we've been blessed with to truly bless our fellow mankind," he told CBN's David Brody?


When liberals have no rational counter point, they make stuff up.
 
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