If Trump runs for President in 2024, will you vote for him?

[gbg3]

Do you think you could make 24 hours without including your age in your posts?

That's an age to be proud of. Give those silly complaints of yours a rest.

 

[radioman]

Not a chance in Hell would I vote for that piece of shit.

Hmmmm...........gee, I dunno, tres....I feel like you're holding back.
Tell us how you really feel.
LOL

 

[Top Cat]

I voted no, because while I voted for him twice, I Think his return to office in 2024 would harm the country.
I always said Trump was like Machiavelli's Prince, useful when his goals align with the nations.
I think that would not be the case if he returned to office at this point, he would be angry and verdictive.

How would you know the difference?

 

[trixare4kids]

The dollar is not "going to collapse".
The leadership that Trump provided for the country has resulted in the most distrustful, divided and angry citizenry since the Civil War. Trump's supporters are convinced that violence may be their best option to get their man back. No nation can hold together with this level of distrust - distrust for all the country's institutions, leaders and half the citizenry. This is the calamity that Trump has wrought.

It's contemptable that some delude themselves into believing the Democrats had nothing to do with this... Such high drama. Stop repeating echo chamber lies.

 

[trixare4kids]

Like I said, thanks to Trump's grooming ( a man who cannot speak or think coherently and who has probably never read a book) a large swath of Americans think Covid is imaginary -or can be treated with dog worming medicine- that the election is rigged, that Dems eat babies, and that you cannot believe the authorities on climate change or pretty much anything else. He is a complete self dealing psychopath.

Please spare us your delusions.

Oh irony.

 

[Grandpappy]

The commies are ever faithful, even in the face of obvious failure. Gotta give 'em that.

 

[trixare4kids]

Trump has a lot of influence, but the reason is something Dems don't deal with or tolerate. The reason is Trump has the strong support of millions of Republican voters. Republican higher ups reluctantly accept that reality, even when they hate it. Dems don't. Higher ups in the Dem party choose their nominee - not the people. When it looks like the "people" don't agree with them, they force agreement, exactly as they did with Hillary and with Biden. The higher ups grew concerned the people might choose Bernie (both times), so they intervened in a rather forceful way. Super delegates are and were a Dem thing, not a Republican thing.
The higher up Republicans might not like the choice of the people at all. The higher ups hated the choice of Donald Trump but they don't interfere when the people have selected their choice. Trump had the people and still has the people (Republicans). The higher ups might have a different idea but they'll go with the people, even if many of the higher ups will go kicking and screaming. It's a very big difference between the two parties.
Trump is the most pertinent and influential Republican because tens of millions of Republicans support him - still.

Excellent points.

Bernie Sanders comes to mind. Twice they screwed the people over because as you said, the elites decided it wasn't gonna' be what they wanted.

 

[BitterPill]

The commies are ever faithful, even in the face of obvious failure. Gotta give 'em that.

The MAGAsphere is doubly so, but we double down on the crazy rhetoric and buy a few more MAGA hats, yellow-snake flags and Let's Go Brandon! stickers to support our lord and saviour, Trump.

Have a MAGA and fight the good fight!

 

[Captain Adverse]

If Trump manages to be the Republican nominee in 2024, will you vote for him?

I don't want to this next go round, as I'd prefer a different set of pro-America leaders with less baggage. But I will if he ends up being the Republican candidate.

Win or lose, I cannot stomach sitting by and allowing another piss-poor progressive-left "rule by committee" band of socialist nihilist spendthrifts ruining the nation for another 4 years.

 

[CharloTexan]

I read a story a while back about a guy in Ireland who was injecting his own semen into his arm. Still less retarded than voting for Trump in 2024.

OMG Kreton!!! Who's gonna clean this mess up on my keyboard and monitors!

 

[gbg3]

Have you heard the saying, "spiking the ball before reaching the end zone"?

Great point. Maybe I'm completely wrong about Independents and they are actually very happy with Biden's choices and the job he's doing. The polls are simply wrong - all of them.

 

[lurchadams]

Great point. Maybe I'm completely wrong about Independents and they are actually very happy with Biden's choices and the job he's doing. The polls are simply wrong - all of them.

They haven't seen the alternatives the GOP is turning up for the midterms and president yet. You guys were calling it for the Senate and House in 2020, remember?

 

[gbg3]

They haven't seen the alternatives the GOP is turning up for the midterms and president yet. You guys were calling it for the Senate and House in 2020, remember?

I don't remember any conservative "calling it" for the House in 2020. We were quite surprised at the unexpected GOP House gains.

 

[lurchadams]

I don't remember any conservative "calling it" for the House in 2020. We were quite surprised at the unexpected GOP House gains.

 

[Chomsky]

His age, and everything else. He won't run again. He wanted to be president. He had his run. He'll bow out. And I also don't think Harris takes the nomination. She'll be in the discussion, but right now I don't think she can win it.

Thanks. I agree to all . . .

 

[HikerGuy83]

Trump's policies were generally good... you just have to ignore all the hullabaloo.

I'm not on Twitter or Facebook, I don't watch MS news, I don't read MS news, etc.

The trick is, look at the headlines to see what the stories are, but don't read the nonsense - then go off looking at sources you trust, which surely can't be Mainstream.

If you do that, you get rid of all the noise, and can focus solely on the issue.

I am good with that until we start talking COVID.

His leadership during COVID is what cost him his second term.

Totally inflexible and totally unempathetic.

He really violated my trust and invalidated my efforts on his behalf with his truly poor leadership in that area.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I don't remember any conservative "calling it" for the House in 2020. We were quite surprised at the unexpected GOP House gains.

I have to tell you, that my jaw hit my desk with a loud thud when the Georgia senate returns were called.

The house gains were good....and as you say....not expected (to that degree).

The GOP held some tightly contested seats in the senate.....and Georgia was supposed to be a slam dunk.

That hurt.

 

[HikerGuy83]

They haven't seen the alternatives the GOP is turning up for the midterms and president yet. You guys were calling it for the Senate and House in 2020, remember?

Of course we were.

Everyone blusters about what they will do.

Look at what is going on now.

If you take that seriously....I have ocean front property in Phoenix to sell you !

BTW: Ever been to Lake Havasu City ? It has the reconstructed London Bridge.

 

[Cassandra]

It's contemptable that some delude themselves into believing the Democrats had nothing to do with this... Such high drama. Stop repeating echo chamber lies.

Lies? The effort to divide the American electorate began in earnest during Newt Gingrich's tenure. Trump, however, is the first POTUS to refuse to even try to unite the Repub party, never mind the entire country, he is first to disparage the opposition as an existential threat, to deny reality (like the former president's citizenship, the size of crowds, the fact that he lost an election). If you believe they are an echo chamber of lies, make your case.

Here is the case for the U.S. trust deficit

Are Americans More Trusting Than They Seem?

Political scientists say that our confidence in our institutions—and in one another—is running perilously low. Economists see a different story.

www.newyorker.com

"Democracy’s most basic currency is trust, and, to judge by the usual indicators, we seem to be running out of it. Back in 1964, more than three-quarters of Americans said that they trusted the federal government; today, according to the Pew Research Center, only a quarter of Americans do. In the nineteen-seventies, Gallup found that around seventy per cent of people trusted the media; today, around forty per cent do. Even worse, trust in the media has become polarized along party lines. While three in four Democrats say that they trust the media, only one in ten Republicans would say so; as recently as 2000, the share among Republicans was one in two."
Americans also report having more animosity toward one another than they used to. Surveys by the political scientists Lilliana Mason and Nathan Kalmoe found that half of registered voters think that the opposing party is not just bad but “downright evil”; a quarter concur that, if that party’s members are “going to behave badly, they should be treated like animals.”

 

[trixare4kids]

Lies? The effort to divide the American electorate began in earnest during Newt Gingrich's tenure. Trump, however, is the first POTUS to refuse to even try to unite the Repub party, never mind the entire country, he is first to disparage the opposition as an existential threat, to deny reality (like the former president's citizenship, the size of crowds, the fact that he lost an election). If you believe they are an echo chamber of lies, make your case.

Here is the case for the U.S. trust deficit

Are Americans More Trusting Than They Seem?

Political scientists say that our confidence in our institutions—and in one another—is running perilously low. Economists see a different story.

www.newyorker.com

"Democracy’s most basic currency is trust, and, to judge by the usual indicators, we seem to be running out of it. Back in 1964, more than three-quarters of Americans said that they trusted the federal government; today, according to the Pew Research Center, only a quarter of Americans do. In the nineteen-seventies, Gallup found that around seventy per cent of people trusted the media; today, around forty per cent do. Even worse, trust in the media has become polarized along party lines. While three in four Democrats say that they trust the media, only one in ten Republicans would say so; as recently as 2000, the share among Republicans was one in two."
Americans also report having more animosity toward one another than they used to. Surveys by the political scientists Lilliana Mason and Nathan Kalmoe found that half of registered voters think that the opposing party is not just bad but “downright evil”; a quarter concur that, if that party’s members are “going to behave badly, they should be treated like animals.”

Yes, lies…

 

[iguanaman]

Certainly, Biden has truly lost that Independent support. Not in a minor way either. It's not as if it's declined a little. It's completely tanked.

That's the thing about independents. They change with wind. The can blow right back just as easily.

 

[iguanaman]

Lies? The effort to divide the American electorate began in earnest during Newt Gingrich's tenure. Trump, however, is the first POTUS to refuse to even try to unite the Repub party, never mind the entire country, he is first to disparage the opposition as an existential threat, to deny reality (like the former president's citizenship, the size of crowds, the fact that he lost an election). If you believe they are an echo chamber of lies, make your case.

Here is the case for the U.S. trust deficit

Are Americans More Trusting Than They Seem?

Political scientists say that our confidence in our institutions—and in one another—is running perilously low. Economists see a different story.

www.newyorker.com

"Democracy’s most basic currency is trust, and, to judge by the usual indicators, we seem to be running out of it. Back in 1964, more than three-quarters of Americans said that they trusted the federal government; today, according to the Pew Research Center, only a quarter of Americans do. In the nineteen-seventies, Gallup found that around seventy per cent of people trusted the media; today, around forty per cent do. Even worse, trust in the media has become polarized along party lines. While three in four Democrats say that they trust the media, only one in ten Republicans would say so; as recently as 2000, the share among Republicans was one in two."
Americans also report having more animosity toward one another than they used to. Surveys by the political scientists Lilliana Mason and Nathan Kalmoe found that half of registered voters think that the opposing party is not just bad but “downright evil”; a quarter concur that, if that party’s members are “going to behave badly, they should be treated like animals.”

Like all demagogues Trump has a ability to zero in on the worst and most base emotions of people and use that to his advantage. That gives him the freedom to do whatever he wants at any time without repercussions. When he says one thing and does another it only endears him even more to his followers. They are that invested in him.

 

[JMR]

Oh the irony... Just a few minutes ago, You wrote, "That remains to be seen."

Try harder.

 

[JMR]

Jimmy Carter was "Presidential", so were Bush I and II...

All 3 of them were disastrous Presidents.

Some consider Obama to be dignified and "Presidential", although I thought he was a contemptible, arrogant, piece of shit... that said, he was a disastrous President too.

Trump was better than all of those Establishment puppets.

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Truth be told, we are so close to the end of America now, that it really doesn't matter. I'm just hoping to buy time at this point.

If we can make it to 2030, I'll be grateful for that. Try to enjoy a few years before the end.

LOL, Carter, Bush, Bush and Obama were terrible and Trump was good. Uh huh

 

[lurchadams]

Of course we were.

Everyone blusters about what they will do.

Look at what is going on now.

If you take that seriously....I have ocean front property in Phoenix to sell you !

BTW: Ever been to Lake Havasu City ? It has the reconstructed London Bridge.

The area in western AZ where all the kids go during spring break? Yes. I was bidding on the AZ State Park project a decade or so ago. We were there right before the kids arrived - I found out you guys actually get snow in the northeast! I found that out later when I was in a town actually called, "Snowflake!