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Don't you lefties ever get tired of throwing out those stale old words.
why don't you just /ignore me like DD so i can mock you behind your back
Clearly they would not: "The bill for legalization was approved by voters, 53-47 percent, on November 6, 2012"
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He knows that... He is just playing the left wing rope a dope when he knows it wrong..........I would have posted them myself but they have been posted 100 times.
Ok for some fantasy reason there's going to be a national vote on equal rights for gays.
Save me all the failed arguments that its not equal rights or it should be left to the states or the government should be out of it all together blah blah blah nonsense, thats in other threads. This is simply about how YOU would vote if this happened.
and yes for the conspiracy theorist out there we will waste time and double down on the first amendment and say of course churches cant be forced to do these legal marriages, even though it has nothing to do with them anyway and this already cant happen.
so there it is, its voting time, what do you do.
Yes - you think gays should have equal rights and the right to legal marriage
No - you dont think they should have equal rights and you want them banned from getting legal marriage.
No vote - you stay home and dont vote at all
He knows that... He is just playing the left wing rope a dope when he knows it wrong..........I would have posted them myself but they have been posted 100 times.
Can't answer your poll because the way you phrased the answers. I'm not convinced that one cannot be for equal rights and opposed to gay marriage at the same time.
what is this a list of?
Good places to vacation.
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vasuderatorrent
thanks for your answer but you don't have to be convinced, on THIS issue those are the facts.
I question is only about one issue its not a blanket label.
1.)The problem is that you don't leave room for honest disagreement about the proper roll of marriage in society.
2.) There is no fact that suggests that disapproval of gay marriage is an equivalent to disapproval of equal rights.
IMO, the proper role of marriage in society is to create stable family units mainly for the purpose of raising children in good environments, but secondarily to create more financial stability.The problem is that you don't leave room for honest disagreement about the proper roll of marriage in society. There is no fact that suggests that disapproval of gay marriage is an equivalent to disapproval of equal rights.
1.) thats not a problem at all because people subjective opinion of the roll of marriage is meaningless to rights and equality since its a contract.
tell me why your subjective opinion or my subjective opinion has any meaning what so ever to peoples rights, the law and equality?
theres no honest disagreement to be had for "LEGAL" marriage
2.) correct because thats not what i said at all
"disapproving" of it is absolutely fine by me
but if you vote to stop it and deny it from others that is factually against equal rights
please dont put words in my posts thats arent there i have made many many posts saying people are free to preach, teach, feel, say, think its wrong and i would defend thats right but actively STOPPING it is against equal rights, theres no way around that fact.
1.)Despite what you may believe, in many states and in many types of contracts, not all parties may legally enter into said contracts. Unequal treatment doesn't always mean a violation of equal rights.
2.) If you agree that one may disapprove, but may not vote to disapprove. You have removed right of conscience within the vote, not good.
when the bad guys are losing facts and reality never gets old, its awesome
most Americans want equal rights for their fellow citizens comrade you are simply not among them and your views support discrimination..
I am for equal rights to and I believe you already have them....I have said this over and over again but as usual you are not listening and just throwing out you stale homophobe and bigot names when I am neither. Call your hook up whatever you want but don't try and redefine marriage.
1.)I am for equal rights to
2.)and I believe you already have them....
3.)I have said this over and over again but as usual you are not listening
4.)and just throwing out you stale homophobe and bigot names when I am neither.
5.)Call your hook up whatever you want
6.) but don't try and redefine marriage.
IMO, the proper role of marriage in society is to create stable family units mainly for the purpose of raising children in good environments, but secondarily to create more financial stability.
Letting gay couples marry does not, so far as I can tell, affect this role in any negative way.
If the definition of marriage (ie. who can legally enter into the contract), is not unique to man woman relationship, then it is necessarily open to all relationships. From my perspective, that leaves the traditional view of marriage without meaning. If any two consenting adults can enter into the marriage contract, there is no expectation of intimacy implicit in the definition.
why would this ever be true since the way it is right now its not open to ALL Man Women relationships?
what logic supports that allowing gay couples to enter just simply busts opens the imaginary flood gates?
sorry that's a slippery slope argument and it never works.
Marriage will always have meaningless because the parties involve make it up, nobody else is in control of it. DOnt you think?
Do you honestly think "i" could influence what you view the meaning of YOUR marriage to mean?
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