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If thecRittenhouse verdicts are all not guilty, will more rioting help?

You have literally no evidence of “wannabe cop”

We should actually encourage community members to fight disorder, in the days of Middle English law up until the 19th century it was the obligation of the men of a town to suppress disorder

I get your general sentiments EMN, but Rittenhouse's actions were not the proper application of those sentiments. He was too young, too immature, too lacking in judgement, too lacking in understanding & perception, and it all blew-up on him.
 
He's basically a vigilante. He just has the blessing of the state.

I don't see him as a vigilante, to be honest.

I think he was a young kid, lacking in maturity, judgement, and perception, who made poor choices, and got in over his head & it blew-up on him.
 
Because that's what he is? LOL Funny the ones that actually were protecting property were on the premises protecting property not running through the streets pointing guns at people KP is a lil punk
what actions did he take to punish people who broke the law or committed criminal acts
 
I don't see him as a vigilante, to be honest.

I think he was a young kid, lacking in maturity, judgement, and perception, who made poor choices, and got in over his head & it blew-up on him.
I think that is the most biased way of looking at him that actually can be based on the facts. I think the facts can also support the following:

he is a young man who cared about the community and went to render first aid and protect properties, and then was forced to defend himself against three convicted criminals who tried to harm him
 
I predict no riots.
There will be no riots. 1) Rittenhouse is not a cop who shot people and 2) his victims were white.
I just don't think people are that angry right now. Last year's riots got everyone's attention, people are actually listening now, and our President is responding supportively.

People may be angry about vigilante-ism, but that means organize and push for a law to nip it in the bud. Protests and riots won't do squat. Focus on support for legislation.
 
I don't see him as a vigilante, to be honest.

I think he was a young kid, lacking in maturity, judgement, and perception, who made poor choices, and got in over his head & it blew-up on him.
If the vigilantes hadn't been there, he wouldn't have tagged along, though. Not his fault they were there; that's our fault.

Over 300 people have been arrested for the Kenosha riots. The police confiscated a pile of illegal guns, as well. But most of those arrests took place after the fact. It is sometimes a deescalation technique to prevent mass death and injury not to have armed law enforcement come down hammer and tongs on an angry citizenry. They didn't prevent protesters from gathering because it is their right, and the anarchists/opportunists in the crowd went to town. The militias don't understand that part. It's right in the US Army Ops manual. Don't fan the flames with more force than necessary. Negotiate.
 

That's fair to point-out that dichotomy Turtle, and I do believe and respect you & your sincerity here. There's a part of me that wants to support that, except that IMO this just simply shows Rittenhouse's lack of judgement. He injected himself into a chaotic illegal environment, fraught with danger, and his very presence with his weapon made him a mark and an aggravating component.

I think he used poor judgement, and should have stayed out, respected the curfew, and let the authorities handle it. He interfered in the authority response, complicating it.

Remember, Rittenhouse's actions came forth from his injecting himself into a locale where he was non-resident. If he was defending his own property and that of his immediate neighbors, I would feel differently - even if I still think he is too young to be taking those actions and should leave it up to the authorities.

Here's something to keep in mind: Rittenhouse did not do any 'defense' of property. Rather, he became a mark as moved through the crowd. He was too niave to realize he would be perceived as a mark. Like I earlier said, It's my belief he lacked the judgment to stay-out of where he didn't belong, and lacked the judgement to see his actions - even just walking through the crowd in the manner he did - could result in an escalation.
 
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If the vigilantes hadn't been there, he wouldn't have tagged along, though. Not his fault they were there; that's our fault.

You know MaryP, you often are a source of excellent observation!

Yes, you are right. Yours is a great point.

Trust me, I absolutely abhor the thought of putting the kid behind bars. I'm glad I'm not on that jury!


Agreed.

The kid disobeyed the curfew, and injected himself into the fracas, escalating it! In essence, he interfered with the authorities' handling of the situation.

It would be another thing if he were defending his residence and his family. But, he wasn't. He went to a place where the locale authorities mandated citizens to stay out of, and disobeyed that mandate.
 
The kid disobeyed the curfew, and injected himself into the fracas, escalating it! In essence, he interfered with the authorities' handling of the situation.
I didn't watch the trial, just checked in on ASHES' thread. I don't know how the violation of curfew charge got dropped, but that was as stupid as using that hunting law to say he could carry a rifle at 17.
 
I didn't watch the trial, just checked in on ASHES' thread. I don't know how the violation of curfew charge got dropped, but that was as stupid as using that hunting law to say he could carry a rifle at 17.
I read somewhere that Wisconsin curfews can only be issued by the Governor (who was out of state). This one was issued by the Police Chief and was therefore invalid as he didn't have the authority to issue one. I may have the authoritative positions wrong, but the jest is correct.
 
He's basically a vigilante. He just has the blessing of the state.
shooting someone in self defense is not a vigilante. Nothing he did can in any way be described as vigilantism.
 
Thanks!
 
Still remarkable how leftists are peeing themselves over a guy that was there cleaning up graffiti, rendering first aid and putting out fires while championing a piece of shit leftist that had a record of 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity around children, including anal rape-the victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old. Also a piece of shit leftist with multiple counts of battery and domestic abuse...all while protesting over the police shooting of a piece of shit that had a history of domestic violence, sexual assault, and kidnapping.

And yeah...they will probably riot again if Rittenhouse is acquitted.

Seriously....the left needs a better ****ing class of martyrs.
 

Most Black Lives Matter protesters want nothing to do with the few troublemakers, some of whom are right-wing infiltrators.
 

Even the worst among us deserve rights. That's how a society works. Or did you want to lose that too?
 
as you've been shown, it in no way applies to him.
He was a self-motivated person trying to enforce the law, with no appointment or authority to do so. What did I miss?
 
not as most people use it, and are you of the belief that the use of it here is designed NOT to smear Rittenhouse?
How do I prove a negative? But calling him a vigilante does put him in a negative light. Perhaps we should call him a concerned patriot. If the shoe fits…
 
Agreed. But unfortunately, the senate is gridlocked with the republicans using the filibuster. We've had reform legislation passed in the house only to die in the senate.
 
He was a self-motivated person trying to enforce the law, with no appointment or authority to do so. What did I miss?
apparently you missed the part where he wasn't trying to enforce any laws.
 
So you're sayin that just because the victims were low lives, it gives KR the right to shoot them? No it doesn't. if what you say is true, why in the world would a person with 11 counts of child molestation not be in prison. I am not here to dispute the victims pasts. Only that those pasts have nothing to do with the murders.
 
I'm saying you people have a tendency to pick some truly ****ed up martyrs in some truly ****ed up situations. KR didnt seek people to kill. He shot a piece of shit child raping leftist shithead because the piece of shit child raping leftist shithead that you are so upset about was ATTACKING HIM. You 'people' always ignore that. He shot the other two piece of shit leftist shitheads because they were ATTACKING HIM...one with a skateboard, the other with a loaded firearm...again...you 'people' always ignore the facts. The riots those leftist shitheads were participating in was due to a piece of shit individual that had physically attacked and sexually assaulted the mother of his children chose to fight with police officers and then reached for a weapon...again....you 'people' always ignore that part.

You might be the problem.
 
Yea, yea, yea. You all said all the same stuff about the George Floyd trial. How did that work out for ya??
 
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