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Frank Apisa

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...what will I do?

If a plurality of the American people decide they prefer to head in the direction the Republican Party advocates…I intend to support the newly elected Republican president in heading in that direction.

If I contact my representatives…I will suggest they do the same.

We cannot continue to be a people with some pushing and some pulling; we have to work in one direction. And even though I detest the direction the Republicans have as their destination…if they win the election…I will side with them. In effect, I am saying I will side with the voice of the voters.

I’ll do it reluctantly, but I am committed to doing it.

Frankly, I want to see what amounts to a welfare state…capitalism with major constraints imposed by socialistic thinking. I think that is the proper, moral way for our country to go. I understand that there are many intelligent, well-intentioned people who disagree with that MAJOR LEAGUE.

Anyway…if we go in the direction I prefer…it is my opinion that we can survive SOCIALISM. I flatly think we will be a better nation if we go in that direction...a fairer nation; a more reasonable, logical nation. But at very least, we can survive it.

I consider the direction in which the Republicans are headed…essentially a move toward Fascism.

I despise the very thought of Fascism…and I think we will be a poorer, less moral nation if we go that way. But it also is my opinion that we can survive FASCISM.

What I see as more difficult (perhaps impossible) to survive is what we’ve had for the last 7+ years…with both sides refusing to work with the other…with obstinacy and obduracy the coin of the realm.

Both socialism and fascism have been failures elsewhere (especially when they are in place in their most extreme form)…but we American may be able to make them (whichever a plurality of the electorate chooses) work. We have succeeded in other endeavors where most others have failed; I see no reason to suppose we cannot succeed working with one of those systems in place. Frankly, I think a variation on one or the other WILL eventually be installed (become dominant)…so I hope I am correct is supposing we can make them work.

I think everyone on both sides of the political coin ought to consider support for “the other side” rather than hoping for failure by political opposite. The nonsense of hoping for failure of the opposition is something that should be banished from our society.
 
I'm not going to change my views or go along with people that want to take the country where I don't want it to go. Let them use their executive orders and court rulings if that makes them feel better, but I see no reason to work with them.
 
I think Obama is more a a fascist in the sense he doesn't want to own the corporations, only control them. [they have reciprocated in order to gain favor and not be punished with the rest of the country.] Otherwise you are correct about his worthlessness in getting anything done.
 
Wait what?
Socialism and Fascism have failed but 'MURICA! can make either of them work?
 
...what will I do?

If a plurality of the American people decide they prefer to head in the direction the Republican Party advocates…I intend to support the newly elected Republican president in heading in that direction.

If I contact my representatives…I will suggest they do the same.

We cannot continue to be a people with some pushing and some pulling; we have to work in one direction. And even though I detest the direction the Republicans have as their destination…if they win the election…I will side with them. In effect, I am saying I will side with the voice of the voters.

I’ll do it reluctantly, but I am committed to doing it.

Frankly, I want to see what amounts to a welfare state…capitalism with major constraints imposed by socialistic thinking. I think that is the proper, moral way for our country to go. I understand that there are many intelligent, well-intentioned people who disagree with that MAJOR LEAGUE.

Anyway…if we go in the direction I prefer…it is my opinion that we can survive SOCIALISM. I flatly think we will be a better nation if we go in that direction...a fairer nation; a more reasonable, logical nation. But at very least, we can survive it.

I consider the direction in which the Republicans are headed…essentially a move toward Fascism.

I despise the very thought of Fascism…and I think we will be a poorer, less moral nation if we go that way. But it also is my opinion that we can survive FASCISM.

What I see as more difficult (perhaps impossible) to survive is what we’ve had for the last 7+ years…with both sides refusing to work with the other…with obstinacy and obduracy the coin of the realm.

Both socialism and fascism have been failures elsewhere (especially when they are in place in their most extreme form)…but we American may be able to make them (whichever a plurality of the electorate chooses) work. We have succeeded in other endeavors where most others have failed; I see no reason to suppose we cannot succeed working with one of those systems in place. Frankly, I think a variation on one or the other WILL eventually be installed (become dominant)…so I hope I am correct is supposing we can make them work.

I think everyone on both sides of the political coin ought to consider support for “the other side” rather than hoping for failure by political opposite. The nonsense of hoping for failure of the opposition is something that should be banished from our society.

I don't have to like any administration in order to treat other people decently, regardless of their political, sexual, or religious leanings.
 
...what will I do?

If a plurality of the American people decide they prefer to head in the direction the Republican Party advocates…I intend to support the newly elected Republican president in heading in that direction.

If I contact my representatives…I will suggest they do the same.

We cannot continue to be a people with some pushing and some pulling; we have to work in one direction. And even though I detest the direction the Republicans have as their destination…if they win the election…I will side with them. In effect, I am saying I will side with the voice of the voters.

I’ll do it reluctantly, but I am committed to doing it.

Frankly, I want to see what amounts to a welfare state…capitalism with major constraints imposed by socialistic thinking. I think that is the proper, moral way for our country to go. I understand that there are many intelligent, well-intentioned people who disagree with that MAJOR LEAGUE.

Anyway…if we go in the direction I prefer…it is my opinion that we can survive SOCIALISM. I flatly think we will be a better nation if we go in that direction...a fairer nation; a more reasonable, logical nation. But at very least, we can survive it.

I consider the direction in which the Republicans are headed…essentially a move toward Fascism.

I despise the very thought of Fascism…and I think we will be a poorer, less moral nation if we go that way. But it also is my opinion that we can survive FASCISM.

What I see as more difficult (perhaps impossible) to survive is what we’ve had for the last 7+ years…with both sides refusing to work with the other…with obstinacy and obduracy the coin of the realm.

Both socialism and fascism have been failures elsewhere (especially when they are in place in their most extreme form)…but we American may be able to make them (whichever a plurality of the electorate chooses) work. We have succeeded in other endeavors where most others have failed; I see no reason to suppose we cannot succeed working with one of those systems in place. Frankly, I think a variation on one or the other WILL eventually be installed (become dominant)…so I hope I am correct is supposing we can make them work.

I think everyone on both sides of the political coin ought to consider support for “the other side” rather than hoping for failure by political opposite. The nonsense of hoping for failure of the opposition is something that should be banished from our society.

do you think your personal world will change in any significant way regardless of which party wins?

I am Canadian and as such our whole country leans left of yours. However, I have voted for all three major parties at one time or another. All three have been at the helm. I end up hating certain aspects and decisions of the current leading party. If I have personally voted them in, I tend to be more lenient/tolerant of bad decisions made. I tend to be more open minded toward attempting to understand those decisions.

But really because we are a democracy and have our daily freedom it doesn't much matter.

Do you believe it will matter to your personal daily world?
 
Wait what?
Socialism and Fascism have failed but 'MURICA! can make either of them work?

Democracy has also failed, so have democratic republics.
 
I will continue to stand by my own principles, regardless of what the crowd does. Oh, and there are worse things than gridlock. Being stuck in stand-still traffic sucks, but it beats driving over the cliff. :)
 
...what will I do?

If a plurality of the American people decide they prefer to head in the direction the Republican Party advocates…I intend to support the newly elected Republican president in heading in that direction.

If I contact my representatives…I will suggest they do the same.

We cannot continue to be a people with some pushing and some pulling; we have to work in one direction. And even though I detest the direction the Republicans have as their destination…if they win the election…I will side with them. In effect, I am saying I will side with the voice of the voters.

I’ll do it reluctantly, but I am committed to doing it.

Frankly, I want to see what amounts to a welfare state…capitalism with major constraints imposed by socialistic thinking. I think that is the proper, moral way for our country to go. I understand that there are many intelligent, well-intentioned people who disagree with that MAJOR LEAGUE.

Anyway…if we go in the direction I prefer…it is my opinion that we can survive SOCIALISM. I flatly think we will be a better nation if we go in that direction...a fairer nation; a more reasonable, logical nation. But at very least, we can survive it.

I consider the direction in which the Republicans are headed…essentially a move toward Fascism.

I despise the very thought of Fascism…and I think we will be a poorer, less moral nation if we go that way. But it also is my opinion that we can survive FASCISM.

What I see as more difficult (perhaps impossible) to survive is what we’ve had for the last 7+ years…with both sides refusing to work with the other…with obstinacy and obduracy the coin of the realm.

Both socialism and fascism have been failures elsewhere (especially when they are in place in their most extreme form)…but we American may be able to make them (whichever a plurality of the electorate chooses) work. We have succeeded in other endeavors where most others have failed; I see no reason to suppose we cannot succeed working with one of those systems in place. Frankly, I think a variation on one or the other WILL eventually be installed (become dominant)…so I hope I am correct is supposing we can make them work.

I think everyone on both sides of the political coin ought to consider support for “the other side” rather than hoping for failure by political opposite. The nonsense of hoping for failure of the opposition is something that should be banished from our society.
Depends on what agenda they are pushing as to whether or when, if ever I would support them. This is always my stand for the simple reason that I do not have a side other than the side of the Nation. Problem is both candidates stand for things that are unacceptable to me, so there is that problem right off the bat, which of the evils is les to me, hardest question of any election I have been part of. If I had to pick, I will not vote for either, I would have to say Hillary would be far less of a disaster for the Nation than Trump, who is a rank amateur that wants to start out as CEO of the Nation without one day of experience, would you run your company that way, I think not? President of the United States of America is not an on the job training position, we have already seen too much of that sort of experiment and how well it works.
 
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