I one word, California.I'm not asking about the electoral college. I'm asking why more americans vote against republican politics in presidential elections than vote for it?
Because while the bulk of the American electorate might not understand why everything is the way it is, they still very much realize that the Party that serves the "special interests" the most, is the Party that serves them the least. That much they get.I'm not asking about the electoral college. I'm asking why more americans vote against republican politics in presidential elections than vote for it?
We could always do away with the electoral college and let people's votes count instead of others picking our presidents. One person, one vote would not disenfranchise anyone. Add them all together nationally and there is your presidential winner.I one word, California.
Their election process stacks the deck against Republicans.
Because Nazis are still a minority in this country.I'm not asking about the electoral college. I'm asking why more americans vote against republican politics in presidential elections than vote for it?
But it is about the electoral college. The popular vote doesn't elect presidents.I'm not asking about the electoral college. I'm asking why more americans vote against republican politics in presidential elections than vote for it?
mob ruleWe could always do away with the electoral college and let people's votes count instead of others picking our presidents. One person, one vote would not disenfranchise anyone. Add them all together nationally and there is your presidential winner.
California is the reason the republicans lose the popular vote? What does california have to do with the other forty nine states?
Uh huh. So how do you explain that trump got seventy five million votes and biden got over eighty. That doesn't tell you anything about the candidates? Trump lost at the height of his popularity among republicans because millions more voted for the other candidate but that tells you nothing?But it is about the electoral college. The popular vote doesn't elect presidents.
Having a few million extra votes in California, Illinois, NY and NJ are just not really and indication about how THE COUNTRY feels about a candidate.
They are just going to deflect because there is no answer to your question that makes the GOP look good.Republicans, make sure you answer any and all questions not asked while disregarding the question that is being asked.
Sure. The process is clear. get started.We could always do away with the electoral college and let people's votes count instead of others picking our presidents. One person, one vote would not disenfranchise anyone. Add them all together nationally and there is your presidential winner.
California's margins are enough to offset the rest of the country.California is the reason the republicans lose the popular vote? What does california have to do with the other forty nine states?
Horsecrap.Sure. The process is clear. get started.
California's margins are enough to offset the rest of the country.
Year National California Difference
2012 4.984MM 3.014MM 1.970MM
2016 2.869MM 4.270MM -1.401MM
2020 7.030MM 5.104MM 1.926MM
Actually, the GOP in many states have stacked the deck against Dems. In my state in the last election the Dems got the majority of votes, something like 55%, for the state legislator positions, but got about 40% of the seats. This is due to the gerrymandering by the GOP who were in control of the legislator after the last census. THis has happened in almost every state that the GOP controls. It allows the GOP to maintain control even though the get fewer votes. Their voter suppression laws will help them do this in presidential elections. I am sorry if you can not see this or believe it is the right thing to do, but it in the end will kill the democracy we have been fortunate to live under. They used to call it one man one vote.I one word, California.
Their election process stacks the deck against Republicans.
Actually, it’s the Right that is selling the fairy tales.It is hard to beat Santa Claus in an election.
Democratic party politics are effectively saying, "Vote for us and we will give you stuff and make the 2% pay for everything". Unsurprisingly that is extremely popular with a majority of the 98% remaining.
Most people love getting free shit while getting the moral cover to say it is fair and just.
Actually you have two nationwide elections. Presidential and for the House of Representatives. Both of whom gives you nationwide totals of the vote. Very True, with the exception of 2004, the GOP has lost the popular vote in every presidential national election since 1992. Giving the democrats a 7-1 advantage.On the other hand, in the other nationwide election that occurs every two years instead of four, the house of representatives, Republicans have won the nationwide popular vote there 9 times vs. 6 for the Democrats. The final result is in all nationwide elections, the presidency and the House, the Democrats hold a 13-10 advantage in the 23 elections beginning in 1992. That's pretty even.I'm not asking about the electoral college. I'm asking why more americans vote against republican politics in presidential elections than vote for it?
Actually, it’s the Right that is selling the fairy tales.
I have to wonder how many of the republican wins in the house have to do with gerrymandering? The normal thing is for the party that is sitting in the oval office loses seats in the house next midterm election. I think if the dems gain seats in the house this upcoming election, that will put a dent in your opinion. I think the gop will lose seats in both houses because most americans are tired of their underhanded antics.Actually you have two nationwide elections. Presidential and for the House of Representatives. Both of whom gives you nationwide totals of the vote. Very True, with the exception of 2004, the GOP has lost the popular vote in every presidential national election since 1992. Giving the democrats a 7-1 advantage.On the other hand, in the other nationwide election that occurs every two years instead of four, the house of representatives, Republicans have won the nationwide popular vote there 9 times vs. 6 for the Democrats. The final result is in all nationwide elections, the presidency and the House, the Democrats hold a 13-10 advantage in the 13 elections beginning in 1992. That's pretty even.
What seems to be happening is the voters don't care much for one party rule, one party in control of the presidency, the senate and the house. They tend to like divided government not trusting either major party. At least since 1980. Democrats controlled congress in 1980, the people elected a Republican president. Divided government. 1984 Democrats still controlled congress, the people reelected a republican president. 1988, the same. Republican president, democrats in control of congress. 1992 was an exception, the people elected Bill Clinton, a democrat as president while they still controlled both chambers of congress.
Now that didn't last long, 2 years later the people threw out the democratic congress, electing Republicans in the house and senate. Divided government once again. That remained until 2000 when the people elected Bush as president giving the GOP full control of government. But in 2006, the people opted for divided government again, electing Democrats to the House and Senate. I think without 9-11 happening, the people would have done this in 2002 instead of 2006.
Come 2008, the people went total Democratic, Obama president, Democrats in control of the House and Senate. But in 2010, back to divided government. 2 years of one party rule or control was enough, they gave the house back to the Republicans. 2016, back to one party rule, Trump as president, congress in the hands of the GOP. Again that didn't last long as in 2018 the people gave the house to the democrats, divided government once again. 2020, back to one party rule, but chances are in 2022, that will once again change with the Republicans regaining the house.
I think the above proves the people don't trust, don't like either major party. The people as a whole think each party only wants and only represents their base, both have only a Republican or a Democrat agenda, not an American one. Hence to place checks on one party rule, the people opt for divided government. Only 35% of all Americans have a favorable view of the Democratic Party, only 24% of independents do. Contrast to the Republican Party 31% of all Americans view that party favorably, 26% of independents. But the democrats have a party affiliation advantage, they're the larger of the two major parties, hence their slight 4 point advantage in party favorability.
Another figure that shows the growing disdain for both major parties is the number of independents have risen from 30% of the electorate up to 40% today and is climbing. Both major parties are shrinking. If not for the monopoly both major parties have on our election system, they write the laws governing elections and they do so as a mutual protection act to ensure no viable third party will ever rise. They will protect and defend their monopoly over our electoral process. Even though the vast majority of Americans dislike and disdain both major parties.
How does California's election process factually stack the deck of the popular vote?I one word, California.
Their election process stacks the deck against Republicans.
It's just because the Republican platform is based on a bunch of REALLY unpopular policies. Most Americans support legalized weed, Republicans are against it. Most Americans support gay marriage, Republicans have pushed against it. Most Americans didn't support the border wall. Most Americans didn't support the transgender military ban. Most Americans want some form of public option.
Of course they lose they popular vote.
I promise you there are plenty of people where weed legalization is almost a single issue vote for them.I don't think people are really motivated in voting on most of those things. No one really cares about gay marriage or rights anymore. Transgender still gets a lot of conflict for sure, but again I don't think people are swayed by that. It goes back to your last one, public option type stuff. This is where my Santa Claus remark comes in. People are going to be motivated to vote D when the D candidate is offering them subsidized healthcare that is being paid for by the 2%. The same as child care credits. Higher education assistance, and every other cheese program.
I promise you there are plenty of people where weed legalization is almost a single issue vote for them.
You make a good point that the issues generally overlap. However, I think you are forgetting conservative libertarians.You don't get a lot of pro-weed guys who are in favor of abortion bans, guns, low taxes, etc.
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