If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?[W:42]

[cabse5]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

When he finishes off his comments with 'Do you understand?' it reminds me of a preacher.

I use a similar phrase: Figure it out, just once.

 

[Casper]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

thats true socialism according to its inventor, is a transitional phase on route to communism

Soooo, it is Not Communism, there ya go, making progress. Don't get me wrong, I do not support communists, or for that matter someone as Socialistic and Bernie, we cannot afford his ideas, period. That said I do believe some social programs are a good thing and have their place to help the truly needed, many of the programs we have today IMO would be fine if we would do some serious reforms and remove the abusers.

 

[Casper]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

When he finishes off his comments with 'Do you understand?' it reminds me of a preacher.

I use a similar phrase: Figure it out, just once.

He reminds me more of some college prof at a Liberal college, his ideas sound ok until one realizes how expensive they are. Socialism works fine until you run out of other peoples money.

 

[James972]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Soooo, it is Not Communism, there ya go, making progress.

thats progress?? Its like saying don't worry about the fire since it hasn't spread to your clothing yet!!

 

[cabse5]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

capitalism slowly starved more than 120 million to death in 1880's????????????

The 1880 time frame is a concept. I could've used many different time frames to show examples of abuse due to capitalism.
Russia's current economy is due to capitalism. The gangsters during and after prohibition were examples of capitalism.

 

[James972]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

The 1880 time frame is a concept.

yes and you said it was a capitalist concept similar to socialism slowly starving 120 million to death?? Notice how as a liberal you have lie dodge deceive evade and weave? Don't you learn anything from that?

 

[cabse5]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

He reminds me more of some college prof at a Liberal college, his ideas sound ok until one realizes how expensive they are. Socialism works fine until you run out of other peoples money.

He's not liberal. He hates liberal.

 

[James972]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Russia's current economy is due to capitalism.

totally illiterate!! What they have is a huge socialist fascist liberal govt the runs everything!! Ever heard of Putin??

 

[cabse5]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

yes and you said it was a capitalist concept similar to socialism slowly starving 120 million to death?? Notice how as a liberal you have lie dodge deceive evade and weave? Don't you learn anything from that?

The word similar is a word you interjected. A strawman. I'm saying the conditions of a good history of capitalistic societies and communistic societies are equal in their depravities.

 

[cabse5]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

totally illiterate!! What they have is a huge socialist fascist liberal govt the runs everything!! Ever heard of Putin??

Preaching again?

 

[TheGoverness]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

totally illiterate!! What they have is a huge socialist fascist liberal govt the runs everything!! Ever heard of Putin??

Lol, Russia's government is not "liberal" in the slightest.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

:lol: You do realize private school is on average cheaper per student, right? All you're talking about is transferring the cost to a wider amount of people and then declaring stupid crap like it's free.

Try sending a kid to a private school and then get back to me on that. But when it comes to cost per student, the reason why private schools are "cheaper" is because they DON'T do everything a public school does - not even close. Private schools are not mandated to provide transportation to and from school for ALL students within that school's district. That's freaking huge. On top of that, private schools aren't mandated to teach disabled kids...and in order to do so, public schools also have to pay for nurses and caregivers (and the caregivers ride the buses with the disabled kids). On top of that, public schools also have to purchase and maintain all the extra space and equipment needed for the disabled kids.

I've spent the last 17 years sending medically-fragile kids to school - so don't even think of trying to tell me how "cheap" private schools are, because private schools simply do not and CANnot do what public schools do every day. It's an apples-to-oranges comparison.

So people make the decision to use the product and then continue to go out and buy the product. So basically, you're shifting blame.

When a person is clinically addicted, that person no longer has a choice to "continue to go out and buy the product". Go get clinically-addicted to a substance - or better yet, have your family member get clinically addicted and watch them die as I have, and then get back to me.

Obviously as a man I'm not a mother. I am however a father of fifteen year old girl. So anyway, what does that have to do with unemployment insurance again? Oh right, nothing.

Have you raised her by yourself, without help from anyone else? That's what single moms (who are FAR more common than single dads) do every day.

 

[cabse5]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Lol, Russia's government is not "liberal" in the slightest.

Right. And Russia's economy is pure capitalism. There are lots of billionaires and even more people in poverty. I guess in a pure communist government, there are lots of people with a good deal of high-end ownership (in government) and lots of people with very little ownership. Socialism also tries to equal out the ownership of goods and services (and fails).

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

So teenagers, you know the opposite side of the equation, why do seniors find it desirable to feed off their grandkids?

Do you have the guts to do what I challenged the other guy to do in the post you replied to? Didn't think so.

 

[James972]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Right. And Russia's economy is pure capitalism.

yes pure capitalist and Putin does not run the entire economy!!!!

 

[James972]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Lol, Russia's government is not "liberal" in the slightest.

very liberal actually, it has a huge central govt!!

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

actually poverty would be a whole lot less if folks retired with a $1.4 million estate rather than the dog food money they get now from SS. Do you understand?

It "WOULD" be a lot less? Really? If that's the case, then when SS was adopted in the 1930's, shouldn't the poverty rate for seniors have gone UP instead of dropping by 80%? If you're right, why did the poverty rate for seniors DROP by 80%? Hm?

 

[TheGoverness]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

very liberal actually, it has a huge central govt!!

The fact that they have a big central government does not make them liberal in the slightest.

Russia has no liberal values, and they pretty much hate the West altogether.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

very liberal actually, it has a huge central govt!!

Ah. THERE's the problem! You are convinced that "huge central government" MUST THEREFORE be "very liberal". You're not for a moment actually checking to see if their policies are liberal as we in the West (and America in particular) define "liberal". All that is required for a government to BE liberal - in your eyes - is for that nation to be BIG.

How utterly simplistic can a guy get?

 

[James972]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

The fact that they have a big central government does not make them liberal in the slightest.

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of course it does. THe whole struggle in human history is between freedom and govt. Conservatives want freedom
from govt. Why do you think conservatives always want tax cuts and try to shut down the govt.

 

[Glen Contrarian]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

of course it does. THe whole struggle in human history is between freedom and govt. Conservatives want freedom
from govt. Why do you think conservatives always want tax cuts and try to shut down the govt.

That, sir, is YOUR PERSONAL definition of "Conservatives". Fortunately, most real conservatives would laugh at your simplistic definition and tell you just how wildly wrong you are.

For instance, of all the presidents since Eisenhower, try finding out which president grew the government LEAST...and then get back to me.

 

[James972]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

. All that is required for a government to BE liberal - in your eyes - is for that nation to be BIG.
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not a nation, a govt. Do you understand? Our founders looked at all of human history and saw that govt had been the source of evil in human history. That is why the Constitutuion was written to keep govt tiny. Now do you understand?

 

[James972]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

That, sir, is YOUR PERSONAL definition of "Conservatives". Fortunately, most real conservatives would laugh at your simplistic definition and tell you just how wildly wrong you are.

why do you think conservatives love our founders and constitution and want to shrink govt??????????? while liberal's are the exact oppposite

 

[TheGoverness]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

of course it does. THe whole struggle in human history is between freedom and govt. Conservatives want freedom
from govt. Why do you think conservatives always want tax cuts and try to shut down the govt.

Uh, no it doesn't. And just because Conservatives believe in "freedom from the government", doesn't mean that the default position for liberals is they just love and trust the government no matter what.

Most Conservatives I know want to limit the government's powers, not to be free from government entirely. That's a anarchist's point of view.

 

[cabse5]

Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

very liberal actually, it has a huge central govt!!

Just want to point out that Nazi Germany had a very centralized government and economy and wasn't liberal.
Have a good day.:2wave: