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If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?[W:42]

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Certainly Hitler, Stalin, and Mao and 100 other recent imitators should have been enough to demonstrate to us that big liberal central govt does not work and is very very deadly. Our Founders based our county on this principle without having seen Hitler Stalin and Mao. We have seen them and still don't know to make liberalism illegal as our Founders intended. What is wrong with us?


Here are some quotes from Jefferson and Madison to introduce libsocialists to the basics of American History:

Thomas Jefferson:
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
― James Madison

Jefferson:
History, in general, only informs us of what bad government is.

I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

My reading of history convinces me that bad government results from too much government.

Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Oh if only we could make liberalism illegal the world would be full of sunshine again. Damn you liberals!
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Oh if only we could make liberalism illegal the world would be full of sunshine again. Damn you liberals!

making liberalism illegal would be a liberal policy of big government telling you what to think. Its a black hole!!!!!!!
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Certainly Hitler, Stalin, and Mao and 100 other recent imitators should have been enough to demonstrate to us that big liberal central govt does not work and is very very deadly. Our Founders based our county on this principle without having seen Hitler Stalin and Mao. We have seen them and still don't know to make liberalism illegal as our Founders intended. What is wrong with us?


Here are some quotes from Jefferson and Madison to introduce libsocialists to the basics of American History:

Thomas Jefferson:
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
― James Madison

Jefferson:
History, in general, only informs us of what bad government is.

I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

My reading of history convinces me that bad government results from too much government.

Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence.

Get use to it, James. You've only seen the tip of this iceberg.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

I don't know whether to poke the original poster for his terrible understanding of political liberalism or the fact that making a political ideology or orientation illegal was antithetical toward the Founders' understanding of proper governance.

Whatever the case, I shall laugh at the stupidity displayed here.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

I don't know whether to poke the original poster for his terrible understanding of political liberalism or the fact that making a political ideology or orientation illegal was antithetical toward the Founders' understanding of proper governance.

Whatever the case, I shall laugh at the stupidity displayed here.

There are many stupid folks on this website that think anything is liberal if it makes the government bigger in any way.

Through this singular lens, pretty much every political ideology except a very narrow band of beliefs is liberal.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

making liberalism illegal would be a liberal policy of big government telling you what to think. Its a black hole!!!!!!!

Double damn liberals, they're still gonna win this one.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

There are many stupid folks on this website that think anything is liberal if it makes the government bigger in any way.

Through this singular lens, pretty much every political ideology except a very narrow band of beliefs is liberal.

Or think that liberalism is bad when at the same time quoting Jefferson and Madison espousing the virtues of liberty.

It's incredible, but certainly not surprising.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Double damn liberals, they're still gonna win this one.

They are sneaky. Stay strong, stay American!! Don't let them get to you!!
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

making liberalism illegal would be a liberal policy of big government telling you what to think. Its a black hole!!!!!!!

our Founders already did it when they wrote the Constitution. All we have to do is follow it.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Certainly Hitler, Stalin, and Mao and 100 other recent imitators should have been enough to demonstrate to us that big liberal central govt does not work and is very very deadly. Our Founders based our county on this principle without having seen Hitler Stalin and Mao. We have seen them and still don't know to make liberalism illegal as our Founders intended. What is wrong with us?


Here are some quotes from Jefferson and Madison to introduce libsocialists to the basics of American History:

Thomas Jefferson:
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

“I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”
― James Madison

Jefferson:
History, in general, only informs us of what bad government is.

I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

My reading of history convinces me that bad government results from too much government.

Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence.

"Liberalism" IS illegal in the U.S. on the federal level - at least in terms of it being unconstitutional. The vast majority of government services were intended to be administered by the states, with each state able to build governance to whatever level the people of that state wanted. It was designed to promote competition between the states, and that inandof itself would act as a check on government becoming too expansive.

Of course those who would seek to empower government, and then wield it for their own ends, couldn't care less about the Constitution, the rule of law, sovereignty, posterity, or the people they purport to be representing. All they care about is stealing from the public treasury and forcing themselves on the populace with the power of government.

There is no constitutional authority for the vast majority of what the FedGov currently does. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, foreign aide, food stamps, undeclared wars, on and on...

Of course the genie is out of the bottle now... there's no stopping the process - we are doomed as a free people.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

our Founders already did it when they wrote the Constitution. All we have to do is follow it.

The constitution tells you how to think???? Does it have an accent when its telling you things?
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Or think that liberalism is bad when at the same time quoting Jefferson and Madison espousing the virtues of liberty.

It's incredible, but certainly not surprising.

actually Jefferson and Madison were for very very tiny govt. Why did you think they founded the Republican party in 1793?????
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

"Liberalism" IS illegal in the U.S. on the federal level - at least in terms of it being unconstitutional. The vast majority of government services were intended to be administered by the states, with each state able to build governance to whatever level the people of that state wanted.

You mean, it was meant to be liberal.

Interesting.

Can someone get these newbies some books to read?
 

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The constitution tells you how to think???? Does it have an accent when its telling you things?

OMG YES!!! to hold office you take an oath of office to preserve and defend Constitution. Constitution is all about keeping govt very very tiny. Do you understand?
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

our Founders already did it when they wrote the Constitution. All we have to do is follow it.

Yeah, look at what those doggone lib'ruls done gone and FORCED on America:

Social Security
Civil Rights Act
Desegregation
Unemployment Insurance
Free public schools
The right of women to vote
The right of non-whites to vote
The ending of Jim Crow laws
Seat belt laws
Forcing Big Tobacco to pay up for killing a half million Americans every year

I could go on and on and on...but the above should serve as a great indictment as to how liberalism has truly ruined America!!!!
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

actually Jefferson and Madison were for very very tiny govt. Why did you think they founded the Republican party in 1793?????

Yeah, they meant for it to be tiny, because they were responding to monarchism, which aside from being "big government," had also viewed the liberties of the masses as something which by and large did not exist. So, Jefferson and Madison wanted to spread liberalism at the same time that they wanted to shrink government, because they thought one necessarily came at the cost of the other.

Secondly, they did not found the Republican Party. They, for all intents and purposes, created the Democratic Party. The Republican Party came as a result of the destruction of the Whigs and the political insolvency of the Free Soil Party. Their political antecedents were largely found within the Federalist Party.

It helps to read more. You should try it.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

The constitution tells you how to think???? Does it have an accent when its telling you things?

OMG YES!!!

Well, I'm done with this one ... I am not sure a response would do you any good at this point if you think it actually tells you how to think ...
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

actually Jefferson and Madison were for very very tiny govt. Why did you think they founded the Republican party in 1793?????

Till that noted liberal Abraham Lincoln came along and told the states that they couldn't decide whether to have slaves or not.

And then there's the fact - FACT! - that America's government was "tiny" indeed before the Constitutional Convention during when Jefferson and Madison and company - and with the support of a guy named George Washington - made the government much bigger than it had been before 1789.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Yeah, look at what those doggone lib'ruls done gone and FORCED on America:

Social Security
Civil Rights Act
Desegregation
Unemployment Insurance
Free public schools
The right of women to vote
The right of non-whites to vote
The ending of Jim Crow laws
Seat belt laws
Forcing Big Tobacco to pay up for killing a half million Americans every year

I could go on and on and on...but the above should serve as a great indictment as to how liberalism has truly ruined America!!!!

"Free public schools" :lol:

How did tobacco companies kill people? Did they go out and say, **** you, smoke this **** or else!

Oh, and the idea of paying people for not doing anything. Brilliant.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Till that noted liberal Abraham Lincoln came along and told the states that they couldn't decide whether to have slaves or not.

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so that means all liberals are like Lincoln and not not like Hitler Stalin and Mao and 10,000 others ????????????????
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

And then there's the fact - FACT! - that America's government was "tiny" indeed before the Constitutional Convention during when Jefferson and Madison and company - and with the support of a guy named George Washington - made the government much bigger than it had been before 1789.

actually the govt they made was 1% the size of todays on a per capita inflation adjusted basis. Sorry to rock your world.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Yeah, they meant for it to be tiny, because they were responding to monarchism,

no they were responding to government in general , not monarchy. Thats why I gave you their quotes in OP. Do you understand? They were geniuses who read all of known history!!!




-20)History, in general, only informs us of what bad government is.

-21)I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

-22)I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

-23)My reading of history convinces me that bad government results from too much government.

-24)Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence.
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Secondly, they did not found the Republican Party. They, for all intents and purposes, created the Democratic Party.

if it was the Democratic party why was it called the Republican Party and why did it stand for very very tiny govt exactly like the modern Republican Party? Isn't thinking fun?
 

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Re: If liberalism has proven to be so deadly so recently why is it still legal?

Yeah, look at what those doggone lib'ruls done gone and FORCED on America:

Social Security
Civil Rights Act
!

Lets take your first example. Lib socialists steal 15% of your life time income and give you back dog food money if you live long enough to collect a penny!! when if saved in private accounts it would be worth $1.4 million!! Liberals are brainwashed and will not think on their own!
 
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