If Legislatures overturn an election...

[HangLow]

sounds like an REM song. I will let you guess

WE I will be FINE

 

[TurtleDude]

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That's Athens Rock my dear, it appears Mr Hanglow is an educated man!

 

[Bullseye]

One day you might figure out that the base premise behind a Republic Form of Representative Governance, is a "Social Construct"... and the Preamble's values are values of a Social Construct. It might even dawn on you that "one person, one vote" is also a Social Construct, maybe if you dig deep enough you might even figure out that the creation of The Senate is a Social Construct, and you might realize if you get that far, to realize The House of Representative is a Social Construct.

It might even come to you, but highly unlikely based on your comment, but if you get the understanding, it might even dawn upon you that Congress as both a Senate and a House, is a Social Construct, and Their Duty as a Social Construct.. is to create Regulatory Governance, which is a Social Construct, and it is also their duty to create Programs and Policies that meet the Social Constructed Needs of Nation and People.

if you could ever learn those things, you might learn the word "Social-ism"... is not captured and limited to your "spin usage of the word"...

Don't strain your brain, because to learn those things, one would have to be Civics Literate which means one would have to have invested in learn the Civics of Representative Democracy.

Good Luck you to...

Where in the Declaration of Independence OR the Constitution are the words "social contract" defined? Maybe some day you're understand that reiterating the phrase several times in a post really add nothing to it's importance or message.

 

[Bullseye]

Well, every court at every level has said there's no fraud, all the way up to the SCOTUS. In fact, the complainants have said in court that they weren't claiming election fraud.
And it still isn't enough for some.

Actually SCOTUS said nothing of the sort. It declined cases based on lack of standing and other legal minutia.

 

[Grand Mal]

Actually SCOTUS said nothing of the sort. It declined cases based on lack of standing and other legal minutia.

What do you want to happen? More investigation? Who should be running it?

 

[TurtleDude]

What do you want to happen? More investigation? Who should be running it?

I think its time to move on, prepare for the midterms and get a candidate that can beat senile Joe rather than continuing to think that Trump won. Plus make sure GOP controlled states guard against voting laws that make vote fraud easier to commit and harder to find

 

[RealityNow]

Where in the Declaration of Independence OR the Constitution are the words "social contract" defined? Maybe some day you're understand that reiterating the phrase several times in a post really add nothing to it's importance or message.

I said: "Is" a Social Construct, (The word "is" represents a singular form of the word be) definition of Be: to equal in meaning.

The matter concerns comprehension. | Comprehension definition is - the act or action of grasping with the intellect : understanding.

You are grabbing at the wind, rather than trying to discern what has been communicated, because you can't resist the instinct to attack, rather than invest in
Discernment: Definition of Discernment:
1: the quality of being able to grasp and comprehend what is obscure : skill in discerning
2: an act of perceiving or discerning something

Relax and read to understand... it helps with the ability to comprehend for understanding.
You would serve yourself far better, not to go into defense mode...

 

[Grand Mal]

I think its time to move on, prepare for the midterms and get a candidate that can beat senile Joe rather than continuing to think that Trump won. Plus make sure GOP controlled states guard against voting laws that make vote fraud easier to commit and harder to find

Bravo. That expresses exactly what needs to happen.
Except maybe the hint that voter fraud is a problem in the USA. I remember when the left was all anti-government and crowing about secret agendas and government over-reach and misuse of federal intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Remember? There was a 'deep state' boogeyman then, too, but he lived in the closet, not under the bed. Now the under-the-bed guy is getting the airtime. Now the right is on their heels, finding the same loaded dice the left discovered 50 years ago.

 

[AmNat]

Time for honestly.

If the GOP controlled states allege election fraud and throw out the Dem winning popular vote in those states, will you support it?

It'll never happen. But if it did I'd support it.

 

[RealityNow]

Where in the Declaration of Independence OR the Constitution are the words "social contract" defined? Maybe some day you're understand that reiterating the phrase several times in a post really add nothing to it's importance or message.

You might want to think of what the word "Refinement" means= (to make improvement by introducing subtleties or distinctions) to understand that, is to understand its importance.

Consider the values of these words: Scope, Perspective and Dimension.. it will help you better understand the repetitious usage of words as words relate to: Scope, Perspective and Dimensional usages.

I know you guys don't get it... because you sling our the word "socialism" as a trigger words... (it feeds the bias, and bigotry mentality of try to deny something to be engaged and share by others) Therefore, you never know or care to know that the word social, is not limited in Scope, Perspective or Dimension to a single usage.

You guys love to add the "ism"... it seems to convey what you don't say, but is well understood as to why there is such affinity for the "ism"
Definition of "ism" = prejudice or discrimination on the basis of a (specified) attribute.

 

[Lovebug]

Time for honestly.

If the GOP controlled states allege election fraud and throw out the Dem winning popular vote in those states, will you support it?

No.

 

[Bullseye]

You might want to think of what the word "Refinement" means= (to make improvement by introducing subtleties or distinctions) to understand that, is to understand its importance.

Consider the values of these words: Scope, Perspective and Dimension.. it will help you better understand the repetitious usage of words as words relate to: Scope, Perspective and Dimensional usages.

I know you guys don't get it... because you sling our the word "socialism" as a trigger words... (it feeds the bias, and bigotry mentality of try to deny something to be engaged and share by others) Therefore, you never know or care to know that the word social, is not limited in Scope, Perspective or Dimension to a single usage.

You guys love to add the "ism"... it seems to convey what you don't say, but is well understood as to why there is such affinity for the "ism"
Definition of "ism" = prejudice or discrimination on the basis of a (specified) attribute.

 

[Bullseye]

I said: "Is" a Social Construct, (The word "is" represents a singular form of the word be) definition of Be: to equal in meaning.

The matter concerns comprehension. | Comprehension definition is - the act or action of grasping with the intellect : understanding.

You are grabbing at the wind, rather than trying to discern what has been communicated, because you can't resist the instinct to attack, rather than invest in
Discernment: Definition of Discernment:
1: the quality of being able to grasp and comprehend what is obscure : skill in discerning
2: an act of perceiving or discerning something

Relax and read to understand... it helps with the ability to comprehend for understanding.
You would serve yourself far better, not to go into defense mode...

How about dropping the snooty superciliousness.

 

[Bullseye]

What do you want to happen? More investigation? Who should be running it?

Not me getting my skivvies in knots because of some left urban legend. Biden and Harris are damaging the Democratic brand so severely Dems are already pooping bricks about the coming elections.

 

[Grand Mal]

Not me getting my skivvies in knots because of some left urban legend. Biden and Harris are damaging the Democratic brand so severely Dems are already pooping bricks about the coming elections.

Did you just reply to the wrong post?

 

[TurtleDude]

Not me getting my skivvies in knots because of some left urban legend. Biden and Harris are damaging the Democratic brand so severely Dems are already pooping bricks about the coming elections.

one of my good friend's sons is a GOP operative working in or near DC. He was one of Mitt's top guys. I asked my buddy what his GOP operative son thought of the election and his comments were-the GOP is a lot better off in the 2022 midterms and the 2024 elections with Biden in office than Trump

 

[Bullseye]

one of my good friend's sons is a GOP operative working in or near DC. He was one of Mitt's top guys. I asked my buddy what his GOP operative son thought of the election and his comments were-the GOP is a lot better off in the 2022 midterms and the 2024 elections with Biden in office than Trump

I saw something in passing to day (no link) that Trump is +10 on Biden in 2024. As Barry said: "never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up"; and he has THREE MORE YEARS.

 

[calamity]

Here's why we cannot trust the Right.



They lie, and they are nuts.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Legislatures are not judicial entities. They cannot "prove" anything, only a Judge and a court can do that. You should know this.

Actually that is not correct. Legislatures have the ability to investigate, hold hearings, and determine results.

As a consequence of those results (depending upon the actual legislation in effect at the time of the election) the legislature MIGHT have the right to nullify an election.

However, the odds that a legislature has the legal/constitutional right to BOTH nullify an election AND substitute some other result are slim to non-existent.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Fraud of any kind and only be proven in a court of law. Legislatures have no such power.

You do realize that the courts do not have the power to vacate elections, don't you?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Exactly!

If fraud is proven...then of course the result should be thrown out and given to the actual winner.

Interesting.

What would you do in this situation:

In the election between "A" and "B", "A" is declared to be the winner with a margin of 10,000 votes.

Immediately thereafter, absolutely incontrovertible evidence is discovered that there were 5,000 totally fraudulent votes cast for "A".

Should the election results be thrown out and "B" declared to be the winner?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

And that is why these new voting laws giving legal power to legislatures are un-Constitutional.

Please cite the specific sections of the Constitution of the United States of America which PROHIBITS states from enacting legislation that allows the sitting legislature to rectify fraudulently obtained electoral results.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

One day you might figure out that the base premise behind a Republic Form of Representative Governance, is a "Social Construct"... and the Preamble's values are values of a Social Construct. It might even dawn on you that "one person, one vote" is also a Social Construct, maybe if you dig deep enough you might even figure out that the creation of The Senate is a Social Construct, and you might realize if you get that far, to realize The House of Representative is a Social Construct.

It might even come to you, but highly unlikely based on your comment, but if you get the understanding, it might even dawn upon you that Congress as both a Senate and a House, is a Social Construct, and Their Duty as a Social Construct.. is to create Regulatory Governance, which is a Social Construct, and it is also their duty to create Programs and Policies that meet the Social Constructed Needs of Nation and People.

if you could ever learn those things, you might learn the word "Social-ism"... is not captured and limited to your "spin usage of the word"...

Don't strain your brain, because to learn those things, one would have to be Civics Literate which means one would have to have invested in learn the Civics of Representative Democracy.

Good Luck you to...

"One day you might figure out that the base premise behind a Republic Form of Representative Governance, is a "Social Construct"... and the Preamble's values are values of a Social Construct. It might even dawn on you that "one person, one vote" is also a Social Construct,..."

The correct term is "Social CONTRACT".

"... you might even figure out that the creation of The Senate is a Social Construct, and you might realize if you get that far, to realize The House of Representative is a Social Construct."

Yep, they are things that were "built" by a "society" so they are "social constructs".

Of course, there is absolutely nothing unique about either the US House of Representatives or the US Senate since the US House of Representatives is merely a copy of the British House of Commons and the US Senate is merely a modification of the British House of Lords.

As for the rest of your post, I find it devoid of meaning.

 

[Bullseye]

Here's why we cannot trust the Right.



They lie, and they are nuts.

According to Anderson Cooper.

 

[The Mark]

You live in a representational democracy. There might be a direct democracy somewhere in the world but I don't know of it.
Republic only means no monarch. The USA is a republic and a democracy. Canada is a constitutional monarchy and a democracy.
Hell, you guys vote for everyone- legislators, cops, judges, prosecutors, nearly everyone with power and authority. Of course that's democracy.

Fair distinction, and you are correct.