If George W Bush ran for a third term, would you support him?

[dstebbins]

In 2008, I will vote for whoever supports gay marriage. I support it because, while the Bible does speak of homosexuality being a sin, it also speaks of morals such as tolerance and acceptance. I'm so paranoid about gay marriage that I am willing to base my entire vote on this one issue, regardless of how stupid that is.

In short, no I would not support Bush for a third term. I didn't even support Bush for a second term, and if I were old enough to vote in 2000, I wouldn't have supported Bush for a first term. I hate Bush with a passion.

 

[Mark A Shrider]

In 2008, I will vote for whoever supports gay marriage. I support it because, while the Bible does speak of homosexuality being a sin, it also speaks of morals such as tolerance and acceptance. I'm so paranoid about gay marriage that I am willing to base my entire vote on this one issue, regardless of how stupid that is.

In short, no I would not support Bush for a third term. I didn't even support Bush for a second term, and if I were old enough to vote in 2000, I wouldn't have supported Bush for a first term. I hate Bush with a passion.

Now that's tolerance at work. I didn't know hate was a trait of a tolerant person. Very telling though.

 

[FinnMacCool]

Tolerance is the capacity to recognize and respect the beliefs of others.

Hatred is intense animosity or hostility.

You can be both.

For example I have tolerance for nazis though I hate them for their intolerance of jews.

 

[TurtleDude]

I am opposed to the estate tax. But I am doing fine without an assault rifle. Except for the lunatic fringe of the party, most dems don't want to ban all guns. Tell me, don't you agree that there should be a line at what you can own. I don't want the psycho down the street to own an RPG launcher.

assault rifles have been strictly controlled since 1934 and banned for future civilian sales on may 19th, 1986. an assault rifle is a machine gun. "assault weapons" are scary looking versions of guns that have been used by american civilians for at least a century. civilians should be able to own the same guns civilian law enforcement officers use-including "assault weapons" or if a city gives its cops machine guns then other civilians should be able to own them too since cops have no greater rights of self defense than I do

don't you think it rather hypocritical for a mayor of governor to tell me-a world class shooter and expert in this area that I DO NOT NEED a certain kind of gun for self defense in an urban area and then turn around and take MY TAX DOLLARS and buy those very same weapons for cops who are CIVILIANS and are in the great majority of cases, less skilled in using guns than your average NRA member or recreational trap shooter?

that you are doing fine without an assault rifle is great by me-I do fine without a car that does 200 MPH or a set of golf clubs for that matter

IF NEED or what you want is how we determine freedoms then we all are screwed

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

Yeah exactly Trajan. Thats why I wonder why so many conservatives support him.

Because he's a Republican and the average Republican is as stupid about party loyalty as the average Democrat. The 2000 and 2004 campaigns were noteworthy for the lack of definitive policy issues in the campaign. That's because both parties were promoting the same thing, the nanny-state.

 

[TurtleDude]

Because he's a Republican and the average Republican is as stupid about party loyalty as the average Democrat. The 2000 and 2004 campaigns were noteworthy for the lack of definitive policy issues in the campaign. That's because both parties were promoting the same thing, the nanny-state.

actually many of us were keenly aware of the differences-that is why we have a CJ John Roberts rather than a chief justice Hillary clinton or lani guinere

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

actually many of us were keenly aware of the differences-that is why we have a CJ John Roberts rather than a chief justice Hillary clinton or lani guinere

The major issues of the 2004 campaign were:

how many paper cuts Kerry gave himself in his fictitious raids on Cambodia versus Bush's paper cuts at the ANG.

Surrender Monkeys vs Hawks on the Iraq war. No discussion of true and realistic future requirements. I think the general public is too stupid to understand the concept of a 15 year occupation and involvement. Certainly the Surrender Monkeys are.

Both sides tried to hide Socialist Security and its imminent and inevitable collapse.

NEITHER side discussed the invasion from Mexico, though Kerry did make speeches at Mexican racist organizations to pander some votes. This was carefully ignored by the major media outlets.

But the war records of the two cowards was a bigger story than anything else. Which was nice because Dan Rather got an early retirement as a result.

 

[Thorgasm]

don't you think it rather hypocritical for a mayor of governor to tell me-a world class shooter and expert in this area that I DO NOT NEED a certain kind of gun for self defense in an urban area and then turn around and take MY TAX DOLLARS and buy those very same weapons for cops who are CIVILIANS and are in the great majority of cases, less skilled in using guns than your average NRA member or recreational trap shooter?

that you are doing fine without an assault rifle is great by me-I do fine without a car that does 200 MPH or a set of golf clubs for that matter

IF NEED or what you want is how we determine freedoms then we all are screwed

I commend you for your markmanship. I have a family member who is a expert marksman as well. He is a member of the NRA. I don't believe in gun bans(what a vague term). I was pointing out that there has to be a line somewhere. You have a point with the police vs. private citizens' rights. But here is the thing, the police should never be outgunned. If criminals don't follow laws, the police have to up the ante. Sure, you have a right to defend yourself. I don't think it is defending yourself when you shoot someone from a half mile away (sniper rifles, though I don't think they should be banned). I don't think it takes hundreds of bullets to defend yourself either. Most self defense situations can be handled effectively with a shotgun. Shotguns are much more accurate than machine guns. Also, while you are an expert, not all gun owners are. Cops have to qualify regularly. Perhaps there could be a stipulation for people with expertise. As you know, with every right comes a responsibility. I don't think the average gun owner can handle the resposibilty of machine guns.

 

[debate_junkie]

even if Bush was allowed to fun for another term i doubt the Republican party would let him. socially, Bush is a liberal and fiscally he's just a maniac. he doesnt have the support of his own party so even to think of this hypothetically is difficult. but if he did run, the only way id vote against him is if someone more conservative was running, which is beyond unlikely.

Bush has given the big spenders in Congress EVERY piece of legislation they wanted. He did not veto a single thing they put before his desk. What happened to being "fiscally conservative"? Hmmm... or is that only a motto his party uses during campaign's to get themselves to Washington? His budget has EXPLODED, and granted I will give you a war on terrorism, 3 hurricanes that have decimated the Gulf Coast... however did Congress put before him a repeal of the tax cuts, to offset these costs? No... Congress is leading us to believe they are going to "cut the spending" they rammed into the Transportation bill.... and as of yet they've done nothing to even trim that. There has been sooooo much wasteful spending, and yet, HIS party, has been right there with their hands out because the LEADER of the country cannot say no to his buddies. Now if he doesn't have their support, other than the OBVIOUS faux pah Miers nomination, I do wish to see how you support that claim.

 

[Hoot]

Bush has given the big spenders in Congress EVERY piece of legislation they wanted. He did not veto a single thing they put before his desk. What happened to being "fiscally conservative"? Hmmm... or is that only a motto his party uses during campaign's to get themselves to Washington?

We finally know the truth about the Bush organization...great at campaigning...lousey at governing.