If Conservatives fear government tyranny, why do they reject the concept of systemic racism?

[Novichok]

Then you are forfeiting then?

Okay about this:

Structural Racism Definition: Structural Racism in the U.S. is the normalization and legitimization of an array of dynamics – historical, cultural, institutional and interpersonal – that routinely advantage whites while producing cumulative and chronic adverse outcomes for people of color. It is a system of hierarchy and inequity, primarily characterized by white supremacy – the preferential treatment, privilege and power for white people at the expense of Black, Latino, Asian, Pacific Islander, Native American, Arab and other racially oppressed people. Scope: Structural Racism encompasses

https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/Definitions-of%20Racism.pdf

Is that good enough or not? Because that is what you get, I am not going to waste time playing semantic games with you.

As Dr. Phil often says, do I have stupid written on my forehead?

Nice sleight of hand. Like with global warming morphing into climate change.

We are discussing systemic, not structural, racism. Nice try, though.

 

[Mr Person]

There is no such thing as systemic racism. The very fact that so many people are against systemic racism is the very proof that racism isn't systemic. YOU are the proof.

Someone being against a thing is proof that the thing they are against does not exist?

The stupid just hit epic levels.

It is proof that it is not systemic. That's the point. There is racism and there is systemic racism. We have racism. We always will. Prior to the 60's racism was systemic. Since over 200 million people are not racists, racism is no longer systemic. In fact, affirmative action policies and laws have made whites the victims of systemic racism.

The problem is I not that I did not understand the completely ****ing moronic "point" you thought you were making.

The problem is that your "point" is so completely ****ing moronic that it does not actually qualify as a point.

 

[Novichok]

Here's a good point that John Oliver made about abortion a couple of years ago when it came to the backdoor restrictions red states implemented to shut down abortion clinics.

"It can't be theoretically legal, it has to be literally accessible".

The same counts for voter suppression.

You're right... only in Theory.

People like to focus simply on the ID aspect, when it's much more complicated than that and those laws use many tools in order to achieve the suppression that disproportionately affects minority and poorer voters.

But again you don't care, you don't want to care, it benefits your side so... Why give a damn?

It's clear as day, the only thing stopping you from giving a damn is your own ignorance which is completely wilful, I have no faith it's blind ignorance.

Impact does not make it "systemic". A city muffler noise ordinance will have a different impact on the Latinos vs whites.

You really think you will succeed in bs-ing me with your deflections and personal comments? Ain't gonna happen. My bs detectors are well-tuned.

BTW, as far as your posts, I see chaos everywhere.

 

[aociswundumho]

The bulk of people who identify as conservatives are also now Trumpists, and Trumpism has jack shit to do with the stated principles of conservatism.

He's always trying to cut taxes and government regulation, he nominates SC justices who will tend to restrain government power, and he's the most anti-war president we've had in a long, long, time. I'd say that's a little more than jack shit.

 

[aociswundumho]

Funding gaps in minority schools is another example.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Inner-city shit schools typically get the HIGHEST funding. The wonderful socialist public edukashun system costs anywhere from 15k to 30k in the inner cities per kid per year in order to produce one illiterate, innumerate adult.

 

[Yes_Minister]

It does make sense. There is no systemic racism. It's in your heads. Yes, there is racism. There will always be racism. But, it is not systemic if it is not systemic.

If that is the case you would have no trouble countering the arguments from the articles and videoes I posted on this thread, which you haven't.

Just saying "it doesn't exist" over and over again is a lazy argument. Plus many black people in the US would agree with you?

 

[Yes_Minister]

As Dr. Phil often says, do I have stupid written on my forehead?

Nice sleight of hand. Like with global warming morphing into climate change.

We are discussing systemic, not structural, racism. Nice try, though.

You are playing sematics games because you cannot win this argument and counter the articles and videoes I posted.

 

[Novichok]

You are playing sematics games because you cannot win this argument and counter the articles and videoes I posted.

It's just "semantics" is what losers claim. Unless, of course, it fits their agenda. Like that global warming vs climate change.
Do you know that different words have different meanings for a reason?

 

[Jason Warfield]

We reject the concept because it doesn't stand up to the slightest critical inspection. The vast majority of laws, rules and regulations speak in opposition to racism. Conservatives advocate EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, e.g. everyone gets an equal chance, not equal outcome - which seems to be the left's sole metric

Wow. Pretty naive if you ask me.

The point is that we do NOT have equal opportunity here in America and conservatives have done very little to do anything about it. And if the "vast majority of laws, rules and regulations speak in opposition to racism" then why haven't the majority of minorities have been successful?

And if you say the problem has to so with how they live their lived and how they make their choices...then that right there is systemic racism.

 

[Novichok]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Inner-city shit schools typically get the HIGHEST funding. The wonderful socialist public education system costs anywhere from 15k to 30k in the inner cities per kid per year in order to produce one illiterate, innumerate adult.

As opposed to the Catholic schools in Chicago where teachers make on average 40 grand a year. At the same time, the public "servants" in the Chicago public schools make 62k.
And the pensions that would make most of us green with envy.

 

[Novichok]

Wow. Pretty naive if you ask me.

The point is that we do NOT have equal opportunity here in America and conservatives have done very little to do anything about it. And if the "vast majority of laws, rules and regulations speak in opposition to racism" then why haven't the majority of minorities have been successful?

And if you say the problem has to so with how they live their lived and how they make their choices...then that right there is systemic racism.

No. When a man marries a woman and impregnates her, the man stays. When a man has 7 kids, each with a different woman, that man is no different than a stray dog.
No, I didn't tell blacks to drop a load of sperm and move on. They are doing it on their own.

 

[Yes_Minister]

It's just "semantics" is what losers claim. Unless, of course, it fits their agenda. Like that global warming vs climate change.
Do you know that different words have different meanings for a reason?

Can you counter my videoes and articles yes or no?

Sematics is all you seem to have:

Redirect Notice

 

[Bullseye]

Wow. Pretty naive if you ask me.

The point is that we do NOT have equal opportunity here in America and conservatives have done very little to do anything about it. And if the "vast majority of laws, rules and regulations speak in opposition to racism" then why haven't the majority of minorities have been successful?

And if you say the problem has to so with how they live their lived and how they make their choices...then that right there is systemic racism.

Point? More like a basketball. You obviously misunderstand what "opportunity" is. Minorities who understand opportunity and take advantage of it have succeeded as far as their ability and motivation takes them. Success is rarely given, it has to be earned. As the many successful minority people out there will tell you.

 

[Acadia]

Systemic racism does not exist. Mentality? Arguably. But systems? No. Hell no. If you believe that you are tacitly admitting your Democrats and their TRILLIONS of dollars in affirmative action have utterly failed for over half a century.

 

[Acadia]

This is how it was in parts of the country as late as the 1960s. That mentality still exists in many people and their children who resisted change during that period:

It’s called racism.


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You do realize that blacks are now petitioning for segregation? For segregated housing on campuses? Segregated graduation ceremonies? That blacks want a return to Jim Crow and are rejecting diversity and mulit-culturalism?
Segregation is back, and it's coming from the regressive Left.
And it's STILL called racism.

 

[ModerationNow!]

If Conservatives fear government tyranny, why do they reject the concept of systemic racism? Systemic racism is state oppression directed against African Americans and other minorities and if conservatives are going to say it doesn't exist, why do you assume that? If you are wrong and systematic racism exists, are you not supporting or at least ignoring the oppression of minorities?

25 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America

Research has extensively documented the differences between the Black and white experience in the US, from wealth and education to incarceration.

www.businessinsider.com

America's Long Overdue Awakening to Systemic Racism

For many who have spent their lives fighting for racial equity, this moment of reckoning has been a long time coming

time.com

The systemic racism black Americans face, explained in 9 charts

Longstanding inequalities have led to the current wave of protests.

www.vox.com

Do conservatives apply their small-government ideology to minorities? How many African Americans believe structural racism does not exist?

Ironically, it's democrats who control most of these allegedly racist systems! Most poor black folks live in democrat ruled cities, under democrat run systems! The left control the educational system, and the majority of career govt bureaucrats are democrats, just as the police unions(and teacher's unions) are connected at the hip with democrats, the majority of prisons exist within democrat cities. But it's funny how the "news" media and leftist elites(and the democrats' base) NEVER hold democrats responsible for ANYTHING related to the negative black experience, despite the fact that democrats control almost EVERY SYSTEM they are involved in!