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If Biden wins how long will everyone be under his dictatorial order to were masks?

If Biden wins how long will everyone be under his dictatorial order to were masks?


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Imagine if during the 14th century, Kings found out that the plague was carried by rats/fleas and they mandated that every single person go out and kill a rat every day and burn them in giant piles. Then imagine that there was a group of people, dying left and right, who refused to do this because it was considered an attack on their liberty. Two things would have happened, one the King would just kill them on the spot and spare them the possibility of being killed by the plague OR the plague would have got them sooner or later and our gene pool would have been the better for it. Since we do not ever take the first option, the second one looks like the likely outcome of these peoples actions.
 
Typo edit "wear" a mask

Joe Biden has repeatedly said he will require everyone to wear masks by his Monocrat decree - except special people he exempts - and that he may order the country completely shut down again for an indefinite period of time.

If he wins how long will we be required under Monocrat Joe Biden?

In my opinion not.wearing a mask is just stupid.

It is very inconsiderate of other people.around.you too. Obviously if you are.an anti-masker you have an above average chance of being a spreader. Looks.like you just don't care who you give the virus to.
 
Typo edit "wear" a mask

Joe Biden has repeatedly said he will require everyone to wear masks by his Monocrat decree - except special people he exempts - and that he may order the country completely shut down again for an indefinite period of time.

If he wins how long will we be required under Monocrat Joe Biden?

Well, I cannot answer this poll because I do not think it is dictatorial to enforce mask wearing, just like it was not dictatorial for the UK to go dark in WW2 to prevent German bombers from knowing where cities were due to the houses being lit up by lights inside of living rooms/other rooms.

The models say it can save ten's of thousands of lives.
 
people should be wearing masks in public at one hundred percent compliance voluntarily, and stores should be stopping the maskless at the door. the problem is that we have a lot of idiots running around maskless and many stores don't want to piss with it, so now it's necessary to force them to by mandate. the solution to this is just wear the ****ing mask or stay home.

Yup, that is why big Dutch cities on busy streets or locations have been giving people tickets for not wearing a mask, and I fully support that. If people are too stupid or arrogant to protect themselves AND others, well then the government has just one other option, fine them as many times until they comply.
 
If a person may pick between 6 foot social distancing OR masks, why not just have stores enforce people staying further than 6 feet from each other? I've never liked people standing close to me anyway nor like crowds.

Why do you refuse to follow the advise of Dr. Fauci?

Seems like both would be better. Hard to social distance in a super market of home goods / hardware store. You are purposely being obtuse. Isles up 1 - 0 and playing great!
 
Aside from masks Biden has said he will shut down the country again if the medical people say so. It sounds to me like they would love to crush the middle and low class economy and build the nation again in their own image, using economic success as leverage.

This time, shutting down the country meant a paid vacation for many. Going forward, many paid furloughs can the economy withstand?

You mean like most other Western democracies have paid furloughs and still keep their economy going?

When I still used to work (before I was no longer medically cleared to work and got permanent benefits due to my illnesses) I had 5 weeks of paid vacation. I had full sick leave (even it if was 3 months) and women had pregnancy leave, parental leave, if you got married you got leave, if you had a funeral (wife/husband/child) or needed to go to a doctor you got leave, etc. etc. etc. etc.

And liberals are much more likely to support lower class and middle class economies, not destroy them.
 
People who vote for Biden have no way to even know who they are voting for to make presidential decisions.

They are voting for Biden to make presidential decisions.
 
Anyway, the correct answer to your poll is: As long as they find it politically advantageous.

That part is correct at least. However 'politically advantageous' means a combination of what's good for public health, the economy long and short term and yes, how much he can 'get away with' as a leader.

Trump failed to balance those in the early days of covid and the price is tens of thousands more deaths than necessary, a deeper recession that it might have been and a hit in the polls. Other leaders in other countries have handled it better. Perhaps Biden will follow their examples.
 
The stats on covid are false.

Masks spread viruses and harm or kill the wearer. Under Obama/Biden team - headed by a Biden staffer - H1N1 infected 60,000,000 Americans. Democratic governors did not order infected people be put into nursing homes. People were not ordered to wear masks. Businesses were not ordered closed nor ordered the economy shut down. Swine flu was a deadly disease.

IF the stats about covid-19 are true, what happened with H1N1 proves ordering wearing masks, ordering tens of millions of Americans into unemployment and massively outlawing middle class businesses has massively spread covid and is killing lots of people.

H1N1 infections 60 million, deaths 12,469

COVID19 infections (in 6/7 months) is 5,914,682 and about 50+ thousand new cases a day, meaning that by the end of this year another 7.2 million new cases and at least another 100,000 deaths or so. Most likely around December 31st of this yyear there will be about 13 million infections and probably about 300,000 deaths. And that is WITH lock downs, stay at home orders and mask wearing.

With about 1/5 of the infections of H1N1, the death rate of covid will be 24 times or so higher than H1N1, and that is just until the end of this year. Who knows how many deaths will occur before a vaccine has been created/produced and distributed. And then you will have to rely on enough people getting that vaccine too.

So let us think, more people got H1N1, by the number of infections very few people died. Ooh, maybe that is the reason for the no masks and no lock downs. But nooo that would be way too simple and accurate for Trump fans to believe. Nope, it is all down to those evil democrats and their supporters.

Swine flu was nowhere near as deadly as Covid, and the conclusions you make about H1N1 are ridiculous and stand you in good stead with the COVID BS prognosticators of the Trump clan.
 
Well, I cannot answer this poll because I do not think it is dictatorial to enforce mask wearing, just like it was not dictatorial for the UK to go dark in WW2 to prevent German bombers from knowing where cities were due to the houses being lit up by lights inside of living rooms/other rooms.

The models say it can save ten's of thousands of lives.

I chose "Forever" because it was the most absurd answer, and I felt like being ironic. I saw an article today showing wearing masks to supplement social distancing could save at least 70,000 lives based on recent scientific models.

Viewpoints: Since Masks Save Lives, Why Is There A Debate On Them?; US Lessons On Embracing Preventive Measures | Kaiser Health News
 
Terrible poll.

Biden will order everyone to wear a mask for as long as the medical specialist says we should.
Hasn't he said he will listen to scientists and doctors.

How can the president of the United States mandate mask wearing and how would it be enforced?
 
That part is correct at least. However 'politically advantageous' means a combination of what's good for public health, the economy long and short term and yes, how much he can 'get away with' as a leader.

No. "politically advantageous" means exactly what it says. It has nothing to do with any of that other stuff. It's only about the politics...the party.
 
That's not the worst issue.

Biden has said that he will shut down the entire country...if some "scientists" tell him to do it.

That is simply bat**** crazy.

1. The President doesn't have that power.

2. Kill the patient to cure the disease.

Only a pandering Democrat would say something so ****ing stupid.

Anyway, the correct answer to your poll is: As long as they find it politically advantageous.
When Trump tried to claim the authority to do this the Dems screamed and yells the President didn't have the authority to do so. Now they sing "Hallelujah, Joe is wonderful". Go figure.
 
people should be wearing masks in public at one hundred percent compliance voluntarily, and stores should be stopping the maskless at the door. the problem is that we have a lot of idiots running around maskless and many stores don't want to piss with it, so now it's necessary to force them to by mandate. the solution to this is just wear the ****ing mask or stay home.
Absolutely. It wasn't a question of opening up too early, it was that too many people abused or ignored the rules.
 
If a person may pick between 6 foot social distancing OR masks, why not just have stores enforce people staying further than 6 feet from each other? I've never liked people standing close to me anyway nor like crowds.

Why do you refuse to follow the advise of Dr. Fauci?

Why a combination of masks and 6 feet? Because people are IDIOTS!!!!

There will always be morons who will invade your personal space even if stores take care of creating the possibility for keeping 6 feet apart. Then there are the people re-stocking items to think of. People passing in aisles that are not created for being 6 feet apart. And again, because some people are uncaring, stupid and selfish asswipes who are too arrogant and too ignorant to either comply with the rules or just think the rules do not apply to them. The internet is full of those kind of Karen's and Keith's.
 
Absolutely. It wasn't a question of opening up too early, it was that too many people abused or ignored the rules.

it was both, IMO.
 
it was both, IMO.
Well, since the original purpose was to bend the curve not keep us in house arrest until the last virus died, I have to disagree.

I think stuff like this:

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Had a much bigger effect.
 
Well, since the original purpose was to bend the curve not keep us in house arrest until the last virus died, I have to disagree.

I think stuff like this:

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Had a much bigger effect.

Super spreading events are certainly stupid.
 
Super spreading events are certainly stupid.
Absoultely, as were Spring Breakers, protestors, large family get togethers, etc. San Diego County got on Newsom's **** list because we have too many "cluster outbreaks" 90% were large gatherings and bars.
 
How can the president of the United States mandate mask wearing and how would it be enforced?

Can the President of the US set speed limits on highways? Remember the 55mph speed limit.

As far as mask, some say the feds don't have the authority. some say they do

"cited laws that could give the executive branch the ability to enact a mask mandate using powers it is granted during public health emergencies. However, the report also noted that federal enforcement of such an order might not be possible, given state and local authorities’ struggles to enforce the state mandates that have already been introduced. One political science professor and legal scholar at Florida Atlantic University, writing for Florida’s Palm Beach Post, might have summed it all up best with his answer: “Maybe.”"
DNC 2020: Biden called for a national face mask mandate. Can he do that? - Vox
 
Can the President of the US set speed limits on highways? Remember the 55mph speed limit.

As far as mask, some say the feds don't have the authority. some say they do

"cited laws that could give the executive branch the ability to enact a mask mandate using powers it is granted during public health emergencies. However, the report also noted that federal enforcement of such an order might not be possible, given state and local authorities’ struggles to enforce the state mandates that have already been introduced. One political science professor and legal scholar at Florida Atlantic University, writing for Florida’s Palm Beach Post, might have summed it all up best with his answer: “Maybe.”"
DNC 2020: Biden called for a national face mask mandate. Can he do that? - Vox

My hope is that Biden would do it the right way by getting all governors and mayors on board to do what is best for the health of the nation. Instead of making it federal, work with the local and state officials first and have scientists to explain logically what is necessary. We have already seen some officials push back on mask mandates, but I am against federal intervention in opposition to city/state officials. Trump already tried that with the protests, and it was the wrong move without at least reaching out to local officials with sincere offers to help and finding a way to work together locally and federally.
 
Absoultely, as were Spring Breakers, protestors, large family get togethers, etc. San Diego County got on Newsom's **** list because we have too many "cluster outbreaks" 90% were large gatherings and bars.

i can attest to the bar part. i got one of my worst flu infections at a bar gig. someone on the dance floor must have had it. me, our guitarist, and our bassist were all flat on our backs within days of each other. our drummer didn't catch it because his kit was set back a bit. needless to say, the next couple gigs were cancelled.
 
i can attest to the bar part. i got one of my worst flu infections at a bar gig. someone on the dance floor must have had it. me, our guitarist, and our bassist were all flat on our backs within days of each other. our drummer didn't catch it because his kit was set back a bit. needless to say, the next couple gigs were cancelled.
For a while a bar that also served food was allowed to stay open and serve booze with food orders, but eventually even indoor dining was prohibited.

We got off the **** list last week so if we can stay clean for a few more days we can start opening up a bit more. The county authorities haven't made the schedule public, yet.
 
No. "politically advantageous" means exactly what it says. It has nothing to do with any of that other stuff. It's only about the politics...the party.

Nah, there's more to it than some are willing to admit. Trump thought it was politically advantageous to downplay or ignore the virus months ago. Even that was a calculation between how dangerous it could be and how wrong or right he might look later on. He misjudged. Biden might too.
 
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