Identity politics at its worst

[Logical1]

Does it bother you that Biden says he is going to pick his VP by skin color and sex? Why not pick the most qualified? This is identity politics at its absolute worst.

Comments?

 

[Drawdown]

Does it bother you that Biden says he is going to pick his VP by skin color and sex? Why not pick the most qualified? This is identity politics at its absolute worst.

Comments?

It would bother me if I supported him I suppose. Personally I would see it as an admission he is too weak to win without pandering within his own party to try to rally the base.

 

[Phys251]

Does it bother you that Biden says he is going to pick his VP by skin color and sex? Why not pick the most qualified? This is identity politics at its absolute worst.

Comments?

Your president has built his entire presidency around "identity politics," which is just code for "keep all the non-white-males out." Quit whining.

 

[Ikari]

Your president has built his entire presidency around "identity politics," which is just code for "keep all the non-white-males out." Quit whining.

Yeah, that's the funny think. It's hilarious to see Trumpeteers suddenly so concerned with things they were deflecting and defending with Trump.

If Biden wins, we will see a resurgence from the right with concerns of power and limitation and appropriate behavior of the President.

 

[TheParser]

Does it bother you that Biden says he is going to pick his VP by skin color and sex? Why not pick the most qualified? This is identity politics at its absolute worst.

Comments?

That's just how the cookie crumbles in 2020 America.

"Diversity" is the buzzword.

Personally, I am interested in having the most competent and ethical person fill every single office in the land.

And if that means that every office is filled by, say, Martians, that would be fine by me.

The idea that all public offices should represent a rainbow of diversity is nonsense, IMHO. That's why our nation is in such big trouble today.

 

[Master Debator]

That's just how the cookie crumbles in 2020 America.

"Diversity" is the buzzword.

Personally, I am interested in having the most competent and ethical person fill every single office in the land.

And if that means that every office is filled by, say, Martians, that would be fine by me.

The idea that all public offices should represent a rainbow of diversity is nonsense, IMHO. That's why our nation is in such big trouble today.

Cause lord knows there are no qualified darkies, amirite? :no:

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Does it bother you that Biden says he is going to pick his VP by skin color and sex? Why not pick the most qualified? This is identity politics at its absolute worst.

Comments?

As who’s “most qualified” is subjective in several respects, why shouldn’t race or sex also be considered?

Don’t get me wrong, I disagree with dismissing entire other groups of people, based on their race and/or sex as a matter of fairness, but fairness doesn’t win nearly as often in politics as pragmatism.

Look at Trump and Pence. Do you think Trump picked Pence because he likes the guy and they share beliefs and interests? The two could not be more dissimilar. Trump needed a respected Midwest bible thumper to counter some of his own “character deficits”.

 

[Binary_Digit]

Does it bother you that Biden says he is going to pick his VP by skin color and sex? Why not pick the most qualified? This is identity politics at its absolute worst.

Comments?

Women and people of color need more representation at the highest levels of government. I for one am glad he's not choosing yet another old white man.

 

[Logical1]

Your president has built his entire presidency around "identity politics," which is just code for "keep all the non-white-males out." Quit whining.

Of course that is BS. If you check out the Trump admin, there are more black people that have been appointed By President Trump than any other president.

 

[Logical1]

As who’s “most qualified” is subjective in several respects, why shouldn’t race or sex also be considered?

Don’t get me wrong, I disagree with dismissing entire other groups of people, based on their race and/or sex as a matter of fairness, but fairness doesn’t win nearly as often in politics as pragmatism.

Look at Trump and Pence. Do you think Trump picked Pence because he likes the guy and they share beliefs and interests? The two could not be more dissimilar. Trump needed a respected Midwest bible thumper to counter some of his own “character deficits”.

Race and sex is identity politics!!! In this case it is pure pandering on the party of Biden and his handlers.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Race and sex is identity politics!!! In this case it is pure pandering on the party of Biden and his handlers.

Rein in your faux outrage and hypocrisy, Logical1, you’re not fooling anyone.

 

[Logical1]

Rein in your faux outrage and hypocrisy, Logical1, you’re not fooling anyone.

But using race and sex to pander for vote is identity politics. Sorry if you cant realize the truth, and your party dont like it when this is brought up.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

But using race and sex to pander for vote is identity politics. Sorry if you cant realize the truth, and your party dont like it when this is brought up.

1. Neither party is “my party”.

2. I was clear that I disagree with identity politics. The same identity politics that Trump used in picking reverend Pence.

 

[tres borrachos]

Yeah, that's the funny think. It's hilarious to see Trumpeteers suddenly so concerned with things they were deflecting and defending with Trump.

If Biden wins, we will see a resurgence from the right with concerns of power and limitation and appropriate behavior of the President.

Yes and we will see a resurgence of the right pretending to be the party of family values too.

The smart people won't buy any of it but it will make them feel better about losing.

 

[Phys251]

Of course that is BS. If you check out the Trump admin, there are more black people that have been appointed By President Trump than any other president.

Show me.

 

[tres borrachos]

But using race and sex to pander for vote is identity politics. Sorry if you cant realize the truth, and your party dont like it when this is brought up.

You said that when McCain picked Palin, didn't you?

 

[KLATTU]

As who’s “most qualified” is subjective in several respects, why shouldn’t race or sex also be considered?
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Laff-How qaulified in anything does one have to be to be VP?
We've had some buffonish VP candidates.
Quayle. Biden.Palin.
But race or sex would matter if the goal is to get more votes and it most assuredly is.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Laff-How qaulified in anything does one have to be to be VP?

Ideally, as qualified as the person who’s job they may be required to ascend to.

We've had some buffonish VP candidates.
Quayle. Biden.Palin.

Agree.

But race or sex would matter if the goal is to get more votes and it most assuredly is.

Race and gender are not the only characteristics used in identity politics. Wealth, position in society, religion, etc., are all used in identity politics.

Surely, you recognize that Trump’s choice of Pence was strictly identity politics. Pence had what Trump needed to help him win. Credibility with religious voters and name recognition in the interior states.

 

[KLATTU]

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Surely, you recognize that Trump’s choice of Pence was strictly identity politics. .

Yea pretty much.

 

[armycowboy]

Show me.

Don't hold your breath. The OP regularly makes things up and then dares anyone who calls him on it, to prove him wrong. Intellectual honesty really isnt his thing.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Yea pretty much.

We agree? Damn! Never thought that would happen.

Must mean that you’re evolving. Good for you! :applaud

 

[reflechissez]

That's just how the cookie crumbles in 2020 America.

"Diversity" is the buzzword.

Personally, I am interested in having the most competent and ethical person fill every single office in the land.

And if that means that every office is filled by, say, Martians, that would be fine by me.

The idea that all public offices should represent a rainbow of diversity is nonsense, IMHO. That's why our nation is in such big trouble today.

We should return to the days when white men ran everything. That would be best, dontcha think?

 

[reflechissez]

As who’s “most qualified” is subjective in several respects, why shouldn’t race or sex also be considered?

Don’t get me wrong, I disagree with dismissing entire other groups of people, based on their race and/or sex as a matter of fairness, but fairness doesn’t win nearly as often in politics as pragmatism.

Look at Trump and Pence. Do you think Trump picked Pence because he likes the guy and they share beliefs and interests? The two could not be more dissimilar. Trump needed a respected Midwest bible thumper to counter some of his own “character deficits”.

Pence is not "respected." Even his own state didn't like him.

 

[reflechissez]

Of course that is BS. If you check out the Trump admin, there are more black people that have been appointed By President Trump than any other president.

Show your work.

 

[Candyman]

Does it bother you that Biden says he is going to pick his VP by skin color and sex? Why not pick the most qualified? This is identity politics at its absolute worst.

Comments?

My comment?

You and your ilk will bitch about whatever pick Biden makes for VP.

Man? He's a misogynist.
Woman? He's insulting men (trump already floated this one)
White? he's a racist ignoring minorities
Black? He's a racist picking an affirmative action VP
Latino? He's a racist because he didn't pick a black woman.
Republican? He's pandering and just trying to get votes.
Klingon? He's a bigot because he didn't pick a Romulan.

Just admit you all will find a reason to denigrate his pick. I expect you to. We all denigrated Pence. We were right (Vice President Milquetoast). But we denigrated him just the same.