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Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic [W:212]

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Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

Really? OrthodoxNet.com? Why don't you go ahead and link us to these studies?
 

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Nobody really thinks that sexuality is purely defined by genetics. No moreso than a favorite color or a preferred style of music is. There are many factors, some of which are genetic.
 

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Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

Genetics likely provide an inclination but other (sociological and personal) factors are mitigating. The important thing to understand, given the various factors, is that it is not a choice. And, of course, it's natural.
 

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Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics.

Because working with radiation is the same as working with homosexuality.

Studies please.
 

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Because working with radiation is the same as working with homosexuality.

Studies please.

Biochemistry, right, that has nothing to do with anything.... :roll:
 

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Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

Its not natural. The natural course of nature is to make children/young whatever you want to call it. Can't do it with homosexuality.
 

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Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

Wrong. The person who wrote this does not understand genetics and how they have been found to very likely be responsible for influence in certain personality traits, such as sexuality. The twin study in fact reinforces that it is likely that sexuality is likely influenced by genetics in some way since identical twins are more likely to both be gay than any siblings.
 

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Biochemistry, right, that has nothing to do with anything.... :roll:

The man worked for the IAEA. I would grant him authority to speak on matters of nuclear concern, but when it comes to gays, you'll forgive me if I don't take his word on it. And even more so, if I don't take the word of a random reporter from a site that clearly has an anti-gay agenda.
 

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The man worked for the IAEA. I would grant him authority to speak on matters of nuclear concern, but when it comes to gays, you'll forgive me if I don't take his word on it. And even more so, if I don't take the word of a random reporter from a site that clearly has an anti-gay agenda.

Biochemistry PHD.....right, has nothing to do with anything..... I worked for Apple does that mean my only specialty in technology is Apple Products? :shrug:
 

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Biochemistry PHD.....right, has nothing to do with anything..... I worked for Apple does that mean my only specialty in technology is Apple Products? :shrug:

I sure as hell wouldn't trust you to advice me on buying a PC.
 
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Its not natural. The natural course of nature is to make children/young whatever you want to call it. Can't do it with homosexuality.

No, that is your own personal attribution of purpose and meaning to life.
 

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Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

Its not natural. The natural course of nature is to make children/young whatever you want to call it. Can't do it with homosexuality.

Words do have meaning. Natural is something that occurs or caused by nature without human influence.

In fact the stigmatizing of homosexuality and homosexual acts is "unnatural" because it's solely a human construct.
 

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Its not natural. The natural course of nature is to make children/young whatever you want to call it. Can't do it with homosexuality.

The ancient Greeks and Romans at a minimum would disagree with you. Procreation is only one function of sex. Intimacy is just as important - if not moreso considering that most people only have a couple of kids yet will have sex far more often.
 

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I sure as hell wouldn't trust you to advice me on buying a PC.

Why not? Simply because I worked with Apple Products? How do you know I did not also spend time working for Microsoft? Or have Microsoft tech certifications? See your failed logic?
 

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Why not? Simply because I worked with Apple Products? How do you know I did not also spend time working for Microsoft? Or have Microsoft tech certifications? See your failed logic?

Doesn't matter. You work at Apple. Unless you're a spy for the PC Master Race, I wouldn't trust you with telling me the time.
 

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Would like to know if the studies were peer reviewed, who funded them, etc.
Heck, one study is over 20 years old!
The positions that Dr. Whitehead has had as a scientist for New Zealand and
the U.N. in the IAEA hardly seems to indicate the training to study human behavior.
Just another study to give comfort to those harboring LGBT bias.
 

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Doesn't matter. You work at Apple. Unless you're a spy for the PC Master Race, I wouldn't trust you with telling me the time.

That is idiotic at best.
 

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Bow before the supremacy of the PC you apple peasant.

Newsflash, I USE A PC. I think Apple is overrated when it comes to computers, their phone is a different story, but computers, overrated and over priced.
 

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Newsflash, I USE A PC. I think Apple is overrated when it comes to computers, their phone is a different story, but computers, overrated and over priced.

:p

And this was getting so fun. Go buy the new iphone xtard when it comes out. It will be as long as the goldengate bridge and will last a full 8h.
 

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Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

Nobody really thinks that sexuality is purely defined by genetics. No moreso than a favorite color or a preferred style of music is. There are many factors, some of which are genetic.

There is no scientific evidence that homosexuality is genetic

There is no gay gene
 
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