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(Idaho Capital Sun) Man dies after being shot in chaotic scene at Salt Lake City’s ‘No Kings’ protest

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Police said a member of peacekeeping team fired shots trying to contain man pointing rifle at demonstrators, hitting a man who was marching with the group
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It seems with all the attention focused on the Minnesota Congressional Murders this weekend, we at DP may have overlooked another attack directed at the "No Kings" protestors which also resulted in a fatality. This occurred at Saturday's Salt Lake City protest.

According to police, a member of a "peacekeeping" team protecting the protestors was alerted to an individual separating himself from the crowd and pulling an AR15 out of a duffle bag.

The peacekeepers approached the individual, who then took-off running towards the crowd, raising and aiming his rifle at the crowd. One of the peacekeepers opened fire at the running gunman, firing three shots, with one shot wounding the gunman ending the threat.

Unfortunately one of the two remaining projectiles hit the innocent victim, a protestor named Arthur Folasa Ah Loo (39), whom despite immediate care passed while being hospitalized.

The wounded gunman, Arturo Gamboa (24), has been booked into Salt Lake Metro Jail for "Suspicion of Murder". The unidentified peacekeepers who fired the shots have not been charged or held, and are cooperating with investigators. Police state the deceased gunshot victim, Loo, was "an innocent bystander participating in the demonstration".

Sorry for the verbosity. The story had to be pieced together from multiple sources, though my OP source appears reasonably complete.
 
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What are LEO’s ROE in crowd situations?

I'm not sure the peacekeepers were LEO.

However given that they apparently neutralized a hot threat, I'm not sure we should pass critical judgement at this time.

Another source I perused had a city official claiming the peacekeepers prevented a much larger tragedy from occurring.

Remember, the article claims the peacekeeper fired at the now booked gunman - while he was running towards the crowd aiming his AR at the crowd.
 
To me, the most poignant part of the article; “every elected official must actively partake in changing the horrific rhetoric and divisiveness that drives public discourse in our society today; rhetoric that is supported and perpetuated by many in our state and nation’s top leadership positions.”

No doubt, the primary contributor to the increasing division and violence among Americans.
 
I'm not sure the peacekeepers were LEO.

However given that they apparently neutralized a hot threat, I'm not sure we should pass critical judgement at this time.

Another source I perused had a city official claiming the peacekeepers prevented a much larger tragedy from occurring.
Who was the shooter according to your sources?


Who were “peacekeepers” that had weapons?
 
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It seems with all the attention focused on the Minnesota Congressional Murders this weekend, we at DP may have overlooked another attack directed at the "No Kings" protestors which also resulted in a fatality. This occurred at Saturday's Salt Lake City protest.

According to police, a member of a "peacekeeping" team protecting the protestors was alerted to an individual separating himself from the crowd and pulling an AR15 out of a duffle bag.

The peacekeepers approached the individual, who then took-off running towards the crowd, raising and aiming his rifle at the crowd. One of the peacekeepers opened fire at the running gunman, firing three shots, with one shot wounding the gunman ending the threat.

Unfortunately one of the two remaining projectiles hit the innocent victim, a protestor named Arthur Folasa Ah Loo (39), whom despite immediate care passed while being hospitalized.

The wounded gunman, Arturo Gamboa (24), has been booked into Salt Lake Metro Jail for "Suspicion of Murder". The unidentified peacekeepers who fired the shots have not been charged or held, and are cooperating with investigators. Police state the deceased gunshot victim, Loo, was "an innocent bystander participating in the demonstration".

Sorry for the verbosity. The story had to be pieced together from multiple sources, though my OP source appears reasonably complete.
Thanks for the update.

A bit strange that the "gunman" was booked for murder if he was simply trying to get away. I feel like there is more information we need on this story.
 
Who was the shooter according to your sources?


Who were “peacekeepers” that had weapons?

Which shooter?

It seems we have an attempted shooter who was wounded & neutralized by the peacekeeper firing three shots. One of the shots hit the attempted assailant, another hit an innocent victim protestor.

If you haven't read my OP linked article, it is quite detailed.

The convolution in the story is also why I did a somewhat longer OP monologue.
 
Which shooter?

It seems we have an attempted shooter who was wounded & neutralized by the peacekeeper firing three shots. One of the shots hit the attempted assailant, another hit an innocent victim protestor.

If you haven't read my OP linked article, it is quite detailed.

The convolution in the story is also why I did a somewhat longer OP monologue.
Well, the article doesn't make it clear that there was an attempted shooter, but rather a guy with a weapon that the "peacekeepers" found to be suspicious. So it may be more accurate to describe him as a "suspected potential shooter" until we know more.

The only known "shooter" in this incident is the "peacekeeper" who shot two people, killing one.
 
Thanks for the update.

A bit strange that the "gunman" was booked for murder if he was simply trying to get away. I feel like there is more information we need on this story.

I've got to correct that. I couldn't edit my OP in time.

The alleged assailant was "booked for 'investigation of murder'".

I find the quoted phrase to be conflated. "Booked", where I come from, means "charged". Yet the "booking" in the statement above, is for "investigation".

Anyway, here's the direct quote from my OP source (Idaho Capital Sun):

Detectives booked Gamboa into the Salt Lake County Metro Jail for investigation of murder, police said in a release.
 
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Which shooter?

It seems we have an attempted shooter who was wounded & neutralized by the peacekeeper firing three shots. One of the shots hit the attempted assailant, another hit an innocent victim protestor.

If you haven't read my OP linked article, it is quite detailed.

The convolution in the story is also why I did a somewhat longer OP monologue.
What is a “peacekeeper” on US streets, during dissent?
 
Well, the article doesn't make it clear that there was an attempted shooter, but rather a guy with a weapon that the "peacekeepers" found to be suspicious. So it may be more accurate to describe him as a "suspected potential shooter" until we know more.

The only known "shooter" in this incident is the "peacekeeper" who shot two people, killing one.

Or perhaps even,

"alleged suspected potential shooter"

! ! !
 
From a different source

The event permit did not include any mention of armed security, police said. Neither of the men involved in Ah Loo’s shooting are current or former members of law enforcement. They were wearing high-visibility neon green vests and carrying handguns.

IDK, we need to know more but is it really wise to aim at someone in a crowd of people?
 
someone dies while you are committing a crime they can charge you with murder.

That is just straight up completely wrong.

It's the sort of idea people get when they surround themselves with idiot friends who tell them bullshit and believe the bullshit.
 
From my OP source, here's a statement from the Salt Lake City Police Chief (Brian Red):

A chaotic scene ensued after two armed men in high visibility vests, who Redd described as “possibly part of the event’s peacekeeping team” saw 24-year-old Arturo Gamboa separating from the crowd, moving behind a wall, pulling out a rifle and starting to manipulate it.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd suspect these guys are armed private citizens who either came along at the behest of the organizers, or perhaps took it upon themselves to "provide security".
 
To me, the most poignant part of the article; “every elected official must actively partake in changing the horrific rhetoric and divisiveness that drives public discourse in our society today; rhetoric that is supported and perpetuated by many in our state and nation’s top leadership positions.”

No doubt, the primary contributor to the increasing division and violence among Americans.
Yes.
I'm sure donald can be reasoned with....


/s
 
From my OP source, here's a statement from the Salt Lake City Police Chief (Brian Red):



If I had to hazard a guess, I'd suspect these guys are armed private citizens who either came along at the behest of the organizers, or perhaps took it upon themselves to "provide security".
The other side of the Kyle Rittenhouse family?
 
You may want to walk this back.
What was incorrect in my statement?
The no king movement being the idiots they surrounded themselves with seems to be the problem. Victim shaming?
I could be wrong.
 
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It seems with all the attention focused on the Minnesota Congressional Murders this weekend, we at DP may have overlooked another attack directed at the "No Kings" protestors which also resulted in a fatality. This occurred at Saturday's Salt Lake City protest.

According to police, a member of a "peacekeeping" team protecting the protestors was alerted to an individual separating himself from the crowd and pulling an AR15 out of a duffle bag.

The peacekeepers approached the individual, who then took-off running towards the crowd, raising and aiming his rifle at the crowd. One of the peacekeepers opened fire at the running gunman, firing three shots, with one shot wounding the gunman ending the threat.

Unfortunately one of the two remaining projectiles hit the innocent victim, a protestor named Arthur Folasa Ah Loo (39), whom despite immediate care passed while being hospitalized.

The wounded gunman, Arturo Gamboa (24), has been booked into Salt Lake Metro Jail for "Suspicion of Murder". The unidentified peacekeepers who fired the shots have not been charged or held, and are cooperating with investigators. Police state the deceased gunshot victim, Loo, was "an innocent bystander participating in the demonstration".

Sorry for the verbosity. The story had to be pieced together from multiple sources, though my OP source appears reasonably complete.

You did okay.

Gamboa never fired his gun but he was arrested and booked into Salt Lake County Metro Jail on a murder charge, with police citing his actions as showing "depraved indifference to human life" that created a grave risk of death, ultimately leading to Ah Loo’s death.
The “No Kings” protest in Salt Lake City was struck by violence when a man allegedly brandished a rifle near the crowd, prompting someone nearby to fire three shots, hitting that man and a protester who later died.

Police said that Arturo Gamboa, 24, never shot his rifle, but that he was arrested on a murder charge and accused of creating the dangerous situation that led to the death of protester Arthur Folasa Ah Loo.

The investigation includes whether the man who shot Gamboa and Ah Loo was justified in firing his gun, the Salt Lake City Police Department said Monday.
 
You did okay.

Gamboa never fired his gun but he was arrested and booked into Salt Lake County Metro Jail on a murder charge, with police citing his actions as showing "depraved indifference to human life" that created a grave risk of death, ultimately leading to Ah Loo’s death.

Well - I guess I'm an okay (O.K.?) guy, then! :p

(thanks)
 
Well - I guess I'm an okay (O.K.?) guy, then! :p

(thanks)

I'll let you know if that changes. so don't let it go to your head. ;)

Here's what we need to know. I think we'll both agree on this too.
Why Gamboa was carrying a rifle and whether the unidentified man was part of an organized safety team for the demonstration or acting on his own initiative. 🤷‍♀️
 
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