"I dreamed I saw the silver spaceships flying...all around the chosen ones... the loading had begun.."

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The Crossroads of Insurrection: The Senate Chamber Insurrection Defendants - emptywheel

QAnon may have been more important in and successful at breaching the Senate itself than either the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers.

www.emptywheel.net

May 1, 2021
"..QAnon managed to get far more of their adherents to the Senate floor than either the Proud Boys (Joe Biggs and Arthur Jackman showed up after getting in with the help of people inside) or the Oath Keepers (..showed up too late). QAnon held a prayer on the dais while the militias were still breaching doors."

Iowan's 'menacing' behavior in the Capitol illustrates how much worse the insurrection could have been - Little Village

A short video captured inside the U.S. Capitol Building on Jan. 6 shows perhaps the most heroic (and heroically restrained) performance by a police officer on that day, as well as the criminal trespassing of an Iowan on the halls [...]Read More...

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January 15, 2021

Where Was Doug Jensen Radicalized? Russia's 2016 Election Tampering - emptywheel

The self-described poster boy of the January 6 insurrection got there, he told the FBI, as a result of four years of information operations, starting with Russia's attack on American democracy in 2016.

www.emptywheel.net

April 12, 2022
"... It reveals how Trump’s propagandists won the allegiance of a blue collar union member...

..Jensen got radicalized into QAnon. ...he came to believe the misrepresentations he read (pushed, in significant part, by accused Proud Boy leader Joe Biggs) of the Podesta files. .. Jensen was left with a void, which Q drops filled shortly thereafter. After that, Jensen came to believe Trump’s lies that he had been shafted by the Deep State, by some guy (Peter Strzok) and his girlfriend..."

FBI Interview, released 04-08-2022

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA * vs. * CASE NO. 2021-R-00180 21-cr-6 DOUGLAS AUSTIN JENSEN

Also, Q said — Q has said things, okay, so like — and anonymous, okay. I follow that, Mayjan (ph.) and all that stuff, you know, because basically I was not into politics until the Wiki leaks dropped, and then when I realized about Haiti, and the Clinton Foundation, and the kidnappings all through the Clinton Foundation, and then I learned about Epstein Island and then I learned Mike Pence owns an island, right — or not Mike Pence, Joe Biden owns an island next door, and then I find that Hunter Biden and Bris Moldings (ph.) and all that, I knew about that a year or two ago.

[snip]

It all started with all the crap I found out about Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, you know, all of that stuff, and then so right before I was going to vote for Hillary, I was like, whoa, we’ve got to vote Trump in because we can’t have Hillary. And then I start finding things like we were supposed to be dead by now, and if Hillary would have won, we were going to be attacked by North Korea or Iran. We were going to go to war, and we would most likely — half of us wouldn’t be here right now if Trump wouldn’t have won that election is what I got from it.

[snip]

You guys have an FBI thing that you released all that Ben Swan who was on ABC years ago and he tried to expose pizza gate and he got fired that night from ABC, and he works for RT now.

[snip]

I am for America, and I feel like we are being taken over by communist China, you know, and the whole Russian collusion was fake. I don’t know what the deal with Russia is, but I don’t know, Vladimir Putin, he seems to be like a decent person, but I could be crazy, you know. But I think we were taught from a young age to hate Russia and all of this stuff. I’ve researched on Vladimir Putin. I was like this guy don’t seem so bad, you know, but I don’t know, you know.

[snip]

A. And all this information, and Trump’s taking down all these people, you know? And — well, firing them or whatever, you know? Like Brennan, Clapper, you know, that guy that I hate with his girlfriend, I can’t remember their names. Those texting back and forth. But they were all like top, you know, members, they’re high up and stuff.

Q. Yeah.

A. And you saw that they were out to destroy Trump, and they were members of our, you know, Central Intelligence or our FBI, you know?

[snip]

I did not preplan nothing. I am not a leader. I am just a hardcore patriot. I am a diehard — I believe all this stuff to be true, and I feel like Trump’s just got the absolute shaft from everything around, our own government, the media.

[snip]

So I voted both terms for Obama, and during the presidency, I thought he was a great president. The health thing. The health thing didn’t benefit me and my family because I had union health insurance. So I got no benefits from it, .. And then I was going to vote for Hillary because I’ve been a democrat my whole life.

Q. Yeah.

A. And then the WikiLeaks thing happened and I had to start questioning where I was getting my info from. And that’s when I realized, you know, holy cow, I can’t vote for this woman. And then it became — like I started telling everybody I know about WikiLeaks and everything else back then. And then that died off when Trump won. And then I didn’t really have anything. I was happy Trump won, you know? And then all of a sudden Q drops started. And it was just — that’s all I did —

Q. Yeah.

A. — was follow those Q drops."

 

[Rexedgar]

What was Churchill’s famous quote after tha Battle of Britain was decided, “this may not be the beginning of the end, but it is the end of the beginning….”

 

[Mycroft]

Your spin ☝️

The reality 👇

 

[Antiwar]

I love that Neil Young song, but I don't see how it applies to this thread.


"Flying Mother Nature's silver seed to a new home in the sun"

 

[Mr Person]

Your spin ☝️

The reality 👇

 

[Jay Falcon]

Your spin ☝️

The reality 👇

Your posts are a clear example of the power and dangers of Qanon lies and misinformation.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Yes he was radicalized.

The RWNJ media (social and broadcast both) are every bit as effective as Islamic Madrasas at brainwashing low IQ beta types.

 

[Mycroft]

Your posts are a clear example of the power and dangers of Qanon lies and misinformation.

That picture has nothing to do with Qanon and it isn't lying. It's not misinformation, either. Everything in the picture happened as shown.

But hey...bring out the buzzwords, eh? Next, you'll be calling me a Fascist, right? Or maybe a racist.

No matter...

You are dismissed.

 

[pocket aces]

That picture has nothing to do with Qanon and it isn't lying. It's not misinformation, either. Everything in the picture happened as shown.

But hey...bring out the buzzwords, eh? Next, you'll be calling me a Fascist, right? Or maybe a racist.

No matter...

You are dismissed.

No you are much worse than either of those.

 

[Rexedgar]

I love that Neil Young song, but I don't see how it applies to this thread.


"Flying Mother Nature's silver seed to a new home in the sun"

Another clown post!

”After the Gold Rush" consists of three verses which move forward in time from the past (a medieval celebration), to the present (the singer lying in a burned out basement), and, finally, to the end of humanity's time on Earth (the ascension process in which the "chosen ones" are evacuated from Earth in silver ...


“for lazy swine the ground is always frozen………”

 

[MaryP]

I love that Neil Young song, but I don't see how it applies to this thread.


"Flying Mother Nature's silver seed to a new home in the sun"

Ditto.

 

[post]

I love that Neil Young song, but I don't see how it applies to this thread.


"Flying Mother Nature's silver seed to a new home in the sun"

The lyrics crept into my head while reading the excerpts of the "qanoned" interviewee transcript.
I thought they were more up beat than the ones of the other song that came to mind...

"...We were flying along and hit something in the air
Then I looked straight at the attendant
His face is pale as it can be
He bends and whispers something softly
He says there's no chance for me.." (i.e., future peaceful post-election transition and transfer of power in the U.S.)

 

[bomberfox]

What was Churchill’s famous quote after tha Battle of Britain was decided, “this may not be the beginning of the end, but it is the end of the beginning….”

Those were my thoughts in getting rid of trump. It was the end of the beginning.

 

[Chomsky]

I love that Neil Young song, but I don't see how it applies to this thread.


"Flying Mother Nature's silver seed to a new home in the sun"

And, that's a teenage Nils Logren on . . . keyboards!

 

[Jay Falcon]

That picture has nothing to do with Qanon and it isn't lying. It's not misinformation, either. Everything in the picture happened as shown.

But hey...bring out the buzzwords, eh? Next, you'll be calling me a Fascist, right? Or maybe a racist.

No matter...

You are dismissed.

I have no proof that you're a racist. You do lie and defend fascists, though, religiously.

 

[Mycroft]

I have no proof that you're a racist. You do lie and defend fascists, though, religiously.

I don't lie and I don't defend fascists.

Stop spouting meaningless buzzwords.

You are dismissed.

 

[Jay59]

It's fitting that you used a song titled All in a Dream. Fantasy is what this thread is about.

I don't lie and I don't defend fascists.

Stop spouting meaningless buzzwords.

You are dismissed.

Don't sweat it. Jay doesn't understand that fascists were socialists that went overboard with regulations and didn't mind a little violence to make a point.

Of course, they would condemn any violence that they didn't initiate.

 

[ataraxia]

Your spin ☝️

The reality 👇

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It's pretty scary for a handful of officers seeing all those people at their doorstep and a noose erected in the background. The message was pretty clearly. It seems it was just a realization that they were hopelessly outmanned and possibly even outgunned (which clearly would have been the case if the Oath Keepers had had their way that day but fortunately didn't- but these guys had no way of knowing that at the instant of this photograph). I am pretty sure if I was in these officers' shoes I would have let them through as well.

 

[Jay Falcon]

I don't lie and I don't defend fascists.

Stop spouting meaningless buzzwords.

You are dismissed.

You do and you do.

Sorry, that's just the truth.

 

[Jay Falcon]

It's fitting that you used a song titled All in a Dream. Fantasy is what this thread is about.


Don't sweat it. Jay doesn't understand that fascists were socialists that went overboard with regulations and didn't mind a little violence to make a point.

Of course, they would condemn any violence that they didn't initiate.

"Fascists were socialists that..."

Not surprised, coming from someone who believes Trump was a good president.

 

[post]

It's fitting that you used a song titled All in a Dream. Fantasy is what this thread is about.


Don't sweat it. Jay doesn't understand that fascists were socialists that went overboard with regulations and didn't mind a little violence to make a point.

Of course, they would condemn any violence that they didn't initiate.

I'm influenced by you two to believe you consider yourselves as some of the few participating on this forum to have the correct perspective and that I'm the one in denial, the one closer than you to supporting fascism, the one unreasonably proposing camps to protect reasonable Americans from, "the bad people".

Reagan once emphasized, "there's a woman in Chicago," and "a strapping young buck buying T-bone steaks."

So now, I'd like to introduce to you to a brother of Reagan's friend's wife, her husband, Reagan's friend, Louis, and her three other sisters,
and then expect you'll give me another lecture!

2010: 85 year old, WWII veteran stands out in the cold, "all day," to get his point across, voting for republican, Scott Brown for US Senate,
first thing that morning... (of course, he is covered by Medicare and by veterans benefits he earned in service to his country...)

Election notebook

Edwin H. Chadwick, an 85-year-old Army veteran of World War II, had been holding a homemade sign all day on Shore Drive at the Unitarian Universalist Church. “At midnight tonight, the Kennedy era w…

www.telegram.com

"...
A registered Democrat, Mr. Chadwick voted Republican yesterday morning. He was still outside at 2:45 p.m. and planned to be there “until my feet get too cold.”

“We're going to change from a one-party system in this state,” he said, noting he wanted President Barack Obama's health care plan to fail because he is satisfied with his current coverage. “We've had a gang in power.”

Jackie Leone, election official for Ward 9, Precinct 1, at Temple Emanuel, said there were already lines when the polls opened...."

I hope you're able to follow this, so far... and I doubt you're noticing any fanatics, yet!

Trump appointed former US Senator Scott Brown as ambassador to New Zealand, probably because he approved of the way Brown and
his wife looked in their frequent television appearances.

Scott Brown Resigns As Dean To Return To Politics

Former state and U.S. Sen. Scott Brown did not elaborate on specifically which political arena he plans to re-enter but used only one hashtag with his tweet Wednesday: #nhpolitics. Brown served a four-year stint as former President Donald Trump's ambassador to New Zealand.

www.wbur.org

 

[Jay59]

You do and you do.

Sorry, that's just the truth.

It's not the truth except in your own little world. In the real world, he has you cold.

"Fascists were socialists that..."

Laughing at facts is never a good sign.

Not surprised, coming from someone who believes Trump was a good president.

You should not be surprised.

I will present you with facts outside your normal cacoon. That Trump is demonstrably a good President is one such. That fascists derived from socialist splinter groups is another.

 

[Lisa]

Your posts are a clear example of the power and dangers of Qanon lies and misinformation.

The OP forgot the obvious answer is..........LOONEY TUNES!

 

[Jay59]

I'm influenced by you two to believe you consider yourselves as some of the few participating on this forum to have the correct perspective and that I'm the one in denial, the one closer than you to supporting fascism, the one unreasonably proposing camps to protect reasonable Americans from, "the bad people".

Reagan once emphasized, "there's a woman in Chicago," and "a strapping young buck buying T-bone steaks."

So now, I'd like to introduce to you to a brother of Reagan's friend's wife, her husband, Reagan's friend, Louis, and her three other sisters,
and then expect you'll give me another lecture!

2010: 85 year old, WWII veteran stands out in the cold, "all day," to get his point across, voting for republican, Scott Brown for US Senate,
first thing that morning... (of course, he is covered by Medicare and by veterans benefits he earned in service to his country...)

Election notebook

Edwin H. Chadwick, an 85-year-old Army veteran of World War II, had been holding a homemade sign all day on Shore Drive at the Unitarian Universalist Church. “At midnight tonight, the Kennedy era w…

www.telegram.com

A registered Democrat, Mr. Chadwick voted Republican yesterday morning. He was still outside at 2:45 p.m. and planned to be there “until my feet get too cold.”

“We're going to change from a one-party system in this state,” he said, noting he wanted President Barack Obama's health care plan to fail because he is satisfied with his current coverage. “We've had a gang in power.”

Jackie Leone, election official for Ward 9, Precinct 1, at Temple Emanuel, said there were already lines when the polls opened...."

I hope you're able to follow this, so far... and I doubt you're noticing any fanatics, yet!

Trump appointed former US Senator Scott Brown as ambassador to New Zealand, probably because he approved of the way Brown and
his wife looked in their frequent television appearances.

Scott Brown Resigns As Dean To Return To Politics

Former state and U.S. Sen. Scott Brown did not elaborate on specifically which political arena he plans to re-enter but used only one hashtag with his tweet Wednesday: #nhpolitics. Brown served a four-year stint as former President Donald Trump's ambassador to New Zealand.

www.wbur.org

If this gibberish is in any way supposed to be a reply to my comment that you are engaging in fantasy, it failed.

No other purpose is apparent.

Make that no purpose of any kind is apparent.

 

[post]

It's not the truth except in your own little world. In the real world, he has you cold.


Laughing at facts is never a good sign.


You should not be surprised.

I will present you with facts outside your normal cacoon. That Trump is demonstrably a good President is one such. That fascists derived from socialist splinter groups is another.

The C-Span panel in June, 2021 that scored Trump the fourth worst POTUS in US history included one from Bob Jones U., one from
Hillsdale College, three from Regents U., despite those five votes representing a combined student enrollment of only
14,500. A more evenly represented panel would have scored Trump even lower....

See for yourself,

Survey Participants | C-SPAN Survey on Presidents 2021 | C-SPAN.org

www.c-span.org

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