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I’m hoping, and I still have hope, that it’s simply that you just don’t get it.

ModernDiogenes

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Trump is a bad person. Sorry, that’s simply a truthful statement born out but the very public, well documented, actual facts of the very public record.

He’s literally stolen hundreds of millions from tens of thousands of victims. He didn’t use a gun. He used lies, deceit, fraud. His tools were a bogus charity and university among other things. If you or I did such things we’d rightly be serving prison time for them. Trump, if he was where justice says he ought to be, could never be President. He’d have died in prison where Bernie Madoff, a similar unethical human being, wound up.

You MAGA folk need to know, because it’s true, if you knowingly support this behavior in leadership that there is something off in your character and personal ethics.

Im sorry, Hate me for saying so but I don’t say it out of hate. Not even dislike. You don’t try to save people you hate or dislike.

I’m hoping it’s just that you have gotten so bogged down in this us vs them thing that you’ve missed this very real, valid, point. That there is a battle of right vs. wrong, good vs. evil, ethical vs. unethical going in here buried in this quagmire of a political argument It’s not about the politics folks. Want what you want politically. Don’t let that cause you to lose sight of the character and ethics battle going on within it.

If you support a truly unethical and character challenged BAD PERSON to get what you want politically than something in YOUR ethics and character is off.

For yourself, your kids, your society; fix that before it’s too late.
 
From most of the names I have seen out there most of MAGA supporters believe anyone on the Democratic party is just as bad if not worse than Trump.

GOP Propaganda has been running hard for decades, and for some reason people keep on believing the crap that comes out of sites like Zero Hedge, Brietbart, and Fox News.
 
But people such as Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, or Nancy Pelosi are the kind of people you need to support to show high quality character and morals, lol.....

A ridiculous OP, another....."mine are good, yours are bad" petty comparisons, anything to disparage Trump at all costs........it's literally all they have left.
 
It's not just Trump who's a bad person. Our entire political and economic systems are run by malevolent actors. Until maybe the turn of this century, there was still enough public power to check their overreach, but they've removed all those barriers now. We're living in the new Gilded Age, and both parties are beholden to the new barony.
 
Surprise...surprise....You're totally missing the point.
 
redbeer said:
But people such as Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, or Nancy Pelosi are the kind of people you need to support to show high quality character and morals, lol.....
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Laugh it up all you like.

I am NOT saying Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer (sorry, Obama is a different situation. No one was charged with anything in his administration - he’s in Carter territory…agree or disagree with his politics, Obama is an ethical person, especially for a politician).

If you do not get that lowering the bar to someone who literally stole hundreds of millions from tens of thousands by direct, fraudulent, criminal acts that were deemed such in civil court then you’re proving my point inceot. You just don’t get it. Trump is different. A new low. A crossing of a line.



redbeer said:
A ridiculous OP, another....."mine are good, yours are bad" petty comparisons, anything to disparage Trump at all costs........it's literally all they have left.
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Nothing ridiculous about it. You’re being obtuse. You don’t like your ethics and character challenged. I get that. I’m holding up not just a lantern, but a mirror. Take a deep, long, hard look.

Trump is a bad person. Bad on an obvious level worse than Schumer. Worse than McConnell. Worse than Pelosi. He’s a Bernie Madoff. That’s not a “petty”difference. Is a full meter lower down the cesspool that a standard issue political hack.

If you don’t get that, like I said, you’re proving my point.
 

"Ethical person", lol....you prove your own point and don't realize it, lol.


ROFL, because of your opinion, all who don't fall in line are anathema, human scum, lol.....got it! You keep proving your own point, lol.


All I have done is put your silly argument back in your face......this OP is a farce. My ethics and character are intact.....what you think means absolutely nothing as I don't look to please others. This OP and the hundreds of others since Trump won the second time proves the point you are attempting to make.....I am sorry you don't like/accept the will of the People of the USA. Stay in the peanut gallery for the time being, while we wait for some competition from the democrats. So far, a big fat nothing, just socialist wannabe's and drama queens with the latest, greatest way to demean our President.

Just fyi, Trump didn't win both times by being a saint placed upon a pedestal, but because he stood his ground when attacked, assaulted, and slandered by the left.....didn't waver and kept going forward. Voters genuinely like seeing this from a politician, instead of the normal suckass forked tongued BS artist. In essence, it was the democrats who placed Trump in the office of the Presidency, simply through their unethical character and mean-spirited antics.

There......you proved your own point, tks.
 
What crimes have the above been convicted of?
What civil wrongs have they been found guilty of? How many of them have had stiffed contractors?
 
They are like the chimps that perform a task and get a treat. As long as their hatreds are sated, they are willing to do literally anything. Gonna be tough to stop that shit show.
 
ModernDiogenes said:
That there is a battle of right vs. wrong, good vs. evil, ethical vs. unethical going in here buried in this quagmire of a political argument
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There is and we saw it in FULL view with Obama, Hillary, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and more. The more we learn about the depths and extent of that "unethical, evil, and wrong" - the more important this "battle" becomes.
 
redbeer said:
But people such as Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, or Nancy Pelosi are the kind of people you need to support to show high quality character and morals, lol.....
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Well, at least they aren't pedos like your fat orange Jesus substitute.
 
holbritter said:
Surprise...surprise....You're totally missing the point.
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No, that is the point and that is far and away the biggest, worst, and most invasive form of bad/wrong/evil/unethical we've seen to date.
 
People become addicted to the neurochemicals associated with emotions.

Sex addiction, gambling addiction and thrill seeking addiction are all examples of this.

This tendency has been researched and turned into a product sold to people who want folks to feel one way or another about a subject by people who want to garner support for an agenda or sell things to people.

Problem is that it’s a technically a drug addiction and as with all drug addictions tolerance develops and it takes more and more and more of the stimuli to get the desired feeling.

See: MAGA. And Billionaires.
 
This is a very good paragraph!
 
gbg3 said:
No, that is the point and that is far and away the biggest, worst, and most invasive form of bad/wrong/evil/unethical we've seen to date.
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So all those people were more unethical/bad/wrong, etc. than Trumpy?

They all literally stole hundreds of millions from tens of thousands of victims? They scammed people with their fake university? (Trump settled all three lawsuits in November 2016 for a total of $25 million). They filed for bankruptcy four times, screwing their employees and shareholders? They were convicted of felony crimes? They sexually assaulted women? They've cheated on their spouses with porn stars and have a liking to young women? They've screwed hundreds of contractors by not paying them?
They have, on their record more than Trump?: From 1973 until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in United States federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes.

Please explain what you actually consider unethical/bad/wrong. Because from my point of view, none of those mentioned come close to shit bag person Trumpy is.
 
gbg3 said:
There is and we saw it in FULL view with Obama, Hillary, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and more. The more we learn about the depths and extent of that "unethical, evil, and wrong" - the more important this "battle" becomes.
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Please tell the class what unethical and evil, these people did. Details matter. I'd like to compare lists.
 
Yet you chose to believe it's not your tribe.
 
"it's literally, all they have left" after making up a quote. Wow. There's no way for you to defend the rapist, so why to you keep trying?
 
How many of those people you just mentioned have been convicted of multiple felonies, business fraud more than once, sexual assault resulting in a $90 million dollar verdict for the victim.

We'll be waiting for your answer.
 
As usual, your remarks about Trump are spot on, alas they fall on the mostly deaf ears of your target audience.

Spent a few days with wife's family on a camping trip. The majority see Trump as you've described, with the exception of one of my wife's sisters. We tried to avoid the topic of politics around her (at least I did), but my wife and another sister she was traveling with did bring a couple of things up. After some discussion I heard about later, my wife told me her older sister simply said, "I voted for him, and I just don't see the things you are talking about."

Well, when the only news media you consume is Fox, I guess it stands to reason.
 
gbg3 said:
No, that is the point and that is far and away the biggest, worst, and most invasive form of bad/wrong/evil/unethical we've seen to date.
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you forgot a couple of adjectives: imaginary, farcical, delusional. Where is the actual proof of all this - whatever the heck this imaginary thing you're talking about is?
 
gbg3 said:
No, that is the point and that is far and away the biggest, worst, and most invasive form of bad/wrong/evil/unethical we've seen to date.
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Sorry, nothing is worse than a bunch of grown ass wealthy men raping and sexually assaulting as many as 1000 underage girls and most of them getting away with it. An alleged election scam doesn't even come close.

And it's your boy, Donnie-2-Dolls who is covering it up.
 
Yet he flips and flops with the wind. And that’s ok.

Creates problems protecting his ego. Lie to your face on the regular.

I know he’s doing the things you want. But I also know how those wants were installed.
 
Lethargic Aptitude said:
Yet you chose to believe it's not your tribe.
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Oh Lord, the crying and whining of the left.......politics is politics, but the left has amped it up to criminal behavior, with the weaponization of the federal government, judges and DA's.....applaud a $3 billion dollar riot, rampage across America in 2020, made a pandemic a political issue, and attempted to prevent a duly presidential elect from even being on the ballot......the coup attempt in 2016 and 17'.....impeachments made up by psychotic wannabe's.....drama queens to the hilt with the parading of the impeachment articles and the arse kissing of bowing to Floyd all for showmanship. Truly pathetic behavior.

They continually prove to us they have nothing, a big fat nothing to offer the American People. All you are left with is the sick hatred of Donald Trump......check and checkmate.
 
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