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Hundreds Of Deceased Voters Somehow Casting Ballots -- Decades After Dying!

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LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A comparison of records by David Goldstein, investigative reporter for CBS2/KCAL9, has revealed hundreds of so-called dead voters in Southern California, a vast majority of them in Los Angeles County.

“He took a lot of time choosing his candidates,” said Annette Givans of her father, John Cenkner.

Cenkner died in Palmdale in 2003. Despite this, records show that he somehow voted from the grave in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008 and 2010.

But he’s not the only one.

CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year « CBS Los Angeles
 

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But no, according to liberals, voter fraud never happens! :roll:
 

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This is why we must not support voter ID. Just imagine how hard it would be for all those dead people to get an ID. Clearly they would be disenfranchized.

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But no, according to liberals, voter fraud never happens! :roll:

Liar.

Nobody has said that voter fraud is zero. You know this. I know this. Everybody knows this.

PS. The vast majority of those supposed zombie votes turn out to not actually be fraud.
 

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LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A comparison of records by David Goldstein, investigative reporter for CBS2/KCAL9, has revealed hundreds of so-called dead voters in Southern California, a vast majority of them in Los Angeles County.



“He took a lot of time choosing his candidates,” said Annette Givans of her father, John Cenkner.



Cenkner died in Palmdale in 2003. Despite this, records show that he somehow voted from the grave in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008 and 2010.



But he’s not the only one.



CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year « CBS Los Angeles


Who cares?

Since you didn't link the story, here it is:

CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year « CBS Los Angeles

According to the article, 86 of the dead voters voted rep and the other 146 were dem. So assuming 100% of these cases were fraud and not cases of legit votes tied to the wrong record which is extremely generous, were talking about a 60 vote advantage out of millions cast -a fraction of a percent. Inventing crumb free bread would be a better use of time.
 

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But no, according to liberals, voter fraud never happens!

This is an intentionally false statement, both as to the notion that anyone said "never" and as to the notion that "liberals" are fungible and monolithic in their beliefs.

:roll:

The article found 265 in CA out of "millions". This bears out the point that the people pushing voter ID laws simply have not proven that this has ever occurred in great enough numbers to influence a national election. The article also notes that the only reason this happened is because CA is the only state being stubborn about a law designed to address just this:


As Goldstein reports, it was all supposed to change after the hanging chads incident in Florida in the 2000 presidential election. Congress passed the Help America Vote Act in 2002, which mandated sweeping reforms, including a statewide voter registration system that would eliminate ineligible voters. But California is the only state that’s still not compliant with the act.


You also fail to note that there is no indication that the votes were cast for Democrats, which is the typical conservative assumption when people start blathering about voter ID.

You also fail to note this: I"t remains unclear how the dead voters voted but 86 were registered Republicans, 146 were Democrats, including Cenkner."

You sure fail to note a lot of things for someone making such a smug attack on "liberals" in general. Funny, that.





If voter ID supporters want more to join them, they should conduct this kind of investigation of evidence on a nationwide basis. They should also make sure that states do not do what Wisconsin did: once the voter ID law goes into effect, close down and restrict hours of ID-places in Dem-heavy areas and using the savings to increase the hours of ID-places in Rep-heavy areas. If one is opposed to slimeball tactics, one should not engage in them oneself.
 

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If voter ID supporters want more to join them, they should conduct this kind of investigation of evidence on a nationwide basis. They should also make sure that states do not do what Wisconsin did: once the voter ID law goes into effect, close down and restrict hours of ID-places in Dem-heavy areas and using the savings to increase the hours of ID-places in Rep-heavy areas. If one is opposed to slimeball tactics, one should not engage in them oneself.

It doesn't matter how much it happens, that it happens at all is enough reason to impose voter ID systems. Voter fraud, of any kind, in any quantity, is unacceptable. But the second anyone brings it up, it's the left screaming that voter fraud doesn't happen enough to warrant it. Once is too much.
 

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It doesn't matter how much it happens, that it happens at all is enough reason to impose voter ID systems. Voter fraud, of any kind, in any quantity, is unacceptable. But the second anyone brings it up, it's the left screaming that voter fraud doesn't happen enough to warrant it. Once is too much.

Are you willing to submit every single person voting to a DNA and fingerprint test, along with expending the resources to do this for every voter on election day?
 

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Are you willing to submit every single person voting to a DNA and fingerprint test, along with expending the resources to do this for every voter on election day?

Nope. I'm fine with requiring legal ID.
 

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Nope. I'm fine with requiring legal ID.

But that wont stop all the voter fraud. It wont even stop a majority of it.

And you said one is too many.
 

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But that wont stop all the voter fraud. It wont even stop a majority of it.

And you said one is too many.

It is, but that doesn't mean that we should just throw up our hands and do nothing because we can't stop every last instance. Will requiring legal ID help? Yes. So let's do it.
 
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