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How Will Trump Deal for Uncommitted Delegates?

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What will Trump offer to uncommitted GOP Delegates?

What are the legal limits of what Trump can offer for a delegate to vote Trump at the convention?


What is the going price for a Cleveland GOP Convention Delegate?



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"Longtime Donald Trump ally Roger Stone is threatening to make public the hotel room numbers of Republican National Convention delegates who switch from Trump to another candidate.

This is obviously in response to Ted Cruz’s effort to recruit delegates who will switch to him after they are released from their pledge to vote for others on the first and sometimes second ballot rounds. Lacking a ground game and network of supporters, Trump’s side is resorting to hints of intimidation to prevent this."


Read more: Blog: Trump ally Roger Stone threatens harassment of Trump-dumping delegates in Cleveland
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Blog: Trump ally Roger Stone threatens harassment of Trump-dumping delegates in Cleveland



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Buying votes is illegal. But, it turns out, buying delegates might not be.

This summer's Republican National Convention is shaping up to be an all-out brawl for every delegate's vote -- and legally, that could mean plying some of them with gifts, experts say.



There are federal and state laws prohibiting bribery of elected officials -- and restrictions on campaigns themselves -- but there isn't much on the books governing what private citizens serving as delegates at their parties' conventions can take in exchange for their votes on a nominating ballot. And in a fight between Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, John Kasich and perhaps an alternative not currently in the race, every delegate vote will matter.

Could Republican delegates be bought? Legally, maybe - CNNPolitics.com



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"In his book Invisible Bridge, historian Rick Perlstein looked at some of the perks these individuals received:


One obscure Republican official from Suffolk County, New York, emerged from a ten-minute audience announcing that the Leader of the Free World had agreed to take a closer look at the problems of his local sewage district. And when the queen of England arrived at the White House for a sumptuous state dinner, the gentleman the president chose to seat her next to was Clarke Reed, chairman of the largest uncommitted delegation — Mississippi’s, with thirty convention votes.

“I’ve gotten several calls but I can’t say I’ve really gotten any pressure,” uncommitted South Carolina delegate Sherry Shealy Martschink told UPI in June 1976. She added, however, that she had been invited to the White House for a dinner with the King of Spain.

A political cartoon that ran on June 21 of that year captured some of the attention uncommitted delegates were getting from the president.







Google News Archive

The Victoria Advocate, June 21, 1976.

Uncommitted GOP Delegates Are About To Become The New Political 'It Girls'


"But South Dakota is in an unusual position because over the weekend it became one of the first states to name its full slate of convention delegates — a move that immediately plunged it into a three-way tug of war among the remaining presidential candidates.

Trump and Cruz opted against sending their own envoys into the South Dakota fray. But all three campaigns have been mobilizing staff and preparing for a nationwide organizing battle to ensure that their own loyalists win elections to become delegates to the convention. The campaign with the most success in this shadow campaign is likely to have an edge should the national convention become a once-in-a-generation floor fight among delegates.

For now, Cruz can take heart that even if South Dakota votes for Trump in June — binding nearly all 29 delegates to back the New York billionaire on the first ballot — the delegates signaled they're with him at heart.

"I have a preference for Cruz," said Matt Bruner, a Republican precinct chairman from White. "Right now, seeing Kasich in there — Kasich is in the race for nothing other than a hope and prayer. ... It's very, very much a Cruz delegation."

The Cruz edge in South Dakota could be significant if Trump scores a primary win there on June 7. State party procedures require 26 of the state's 29 delegates to vote for the popular vote-getter on the first ballot in Cleveland. All 26 delegates signed a legally binding oath to fulfill that responsibility on Saturday. But Trump could find himself in a hole in a contested convention if members of the South Dakota "


Read more: Shadow campaign to deny Trump his delegates begins - POLITICO
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Shadow campaign to deny Trump his delegates begins - POLITICO



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"Longtime Donald Trump ally Roger Stone is threatening to make public the hotel room numbers of Republican National Convention delegates who switch from Trump to another candidate.

This is obviously in response to Ted Cruz’s effort to recruit delegates who will switch to him after they are released from their pledge to vote for others on the first and sometimes second ballot rounds. Lacking a ground game and network of supporters, Trump’s side is resorting to hints of intimidation to prevent this."


Read more: Blog: Trump ally Roger Stone threatens harassment of Trump-dumping delegates in Cleveland
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook


Blog: Trump ally Roger Stone threatens harassment of Trump-dumping delegates in Cleveland



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Buying votes is illegal. But, it turns out, buying delegates might not be.

This summer's Republican National Convention is shaping up to be an all-out brawl for every delegate's vote -- and legally, that could mean plying some of them with gifts, experts say.



There are federal and state laws prohibiting bribery of elected officials -- and restrictions on campaigns themselves -- but there isn't much on the books governing what private citizens serving as delegates at their parties' conventions can take in exchange for their votes on a nominating ballot. And in a fight between Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, John Kasich and perhaps an alternative not currently in the race, every delegate vote will matter.

Could Republican delegates be bought? Legally, maybe - CNNPolitics.com



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Too funny, they get free parties all night long and thousands of dollars worth of swag, there are huge special prizes awarded, all from the RNC and their corporate sponsors. They are not bought? hell for the last 30 years the convention has functioned as a huge 4 day party for the faithful, either those the party wanted to thank for doing good or those that the party hoped would provide favors. And now they want to worry about what Donald might offer. clam maybe be is a bad man??!!
 

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Too funny, they get free parties all night long and thousands of dollars worth of swag, there are huge special prizes awarded, all from the RNC and their corporate sponsors. They are not bought? hell for the last 30 years the convention has functioned as a huge 4 day party for the faithful, either those the party wanted to thank for doing good or those that the party hoped would provide favors. And now they want to worry about what Donald might offer. clam maybe be is a bad man??!!


"When presidential candidates suspend their campaigns, typically their delegates become free to support the candidate of their own choosing at the convention. Rubio, however, has quietly been reaching out to party officials with a different approach.

He is personally asking state parties in 21 states and territories to refrain from releasing any of the 172 delegates he won while campaigning this year, MSNBC has learned.

Rubio sent a signed letter to the Chair of the Alaska Republican Party requesting the five delegates he won in that state "remain bound to vote for me" at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July."

Rubio Makes Unprecedented Bid to Keep Delegates for Contested Convention - NBC News
 

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"Imagine this: Donald Trump wooing delegates with rides on his gold-plated private jet. A wealthy Ted Cruz supporter wining and dining them at the Cleveland convention. Welcome bags stocked with expensive swag awaiting party activists in their hotel rooms, courtesy of a well-funded super PAC. The already freewheeling Republican presidential contest is fast turning into a personal persuasion game as the candidates pursue a no-holds-barred effort to lock up delegates — and there are relatively few limits on how far they can go. The jockeying has already led to accusations of unfair play. Trump accused Cruz of luring delegates with unspecified “goodies” and “crooked shenanigans,” a charge that the Cruz campaign dismissed as “falsehoods.” Under regulations established in the 1980s, delegates cannot take money from corporations, labor unions, federal contractors or foreign nationals. But an individual donor is permitted to give a delegate unlimited sums to support his or her efforts to get selected to go to the convention, including money to defray the costs of travel and lodging. A candidate’s campaign committee can also pay for delegate expenses. Some legal experts believe a campaign could even cover an all-expense-paid weekend prior to the convention to meet with senior staff at, say, a Trump-owned luxury golf resort in Florida. - See more at: GOP has few limits on wooing delegates | TBO.com and The Tampa Tribune


GOP has few limits on wooing delegates | TBO.com and The Tampa Tribune


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"Imagine this: Donald Trump wooing delegates with rides on his gold-plated private jet. A wealthy Ted Cruz supporter wining and dining them at the Cleveland convention. Welcome bags stocked with expensive swag awaiting party activists in their hotel rooms, courtesy of a well-funded super PAC. The already freewheeling Republican presidential contest is fast turning into a personal persuasion game as the candidates pursue a no-holds-barred effort to lock up delegates — and there are relatively few limits on how far they can go. The jockeying has already led to accusations of unfair play. Trump accused Cruz of luring delegates with unspecified “goodies” and “crooked shenanigans,” a charge that the Cruz campaign dismissed as “falsehoods.” Under regulations established in the 1980s, delegates cannot take money from corporations, labor unions, federal contractors or foreign nationals. But an individual donor is permitted to give a delegate unlimited sums to support his or her efforts to get selected to go to the convention, including money to defray the costs of travel and lodging. A candidate’s campaign committee can also pay for delegate expenses. Some legal experts believe a campaign could even cover an all-expense-paid weekend prior to the convention to meet with senior staff at, say, a Trump-owned luxury golf resort in Florida. - See more at: GOP has few limits on wooing delegates | TBO.com and The Tampa Tribune


GOP has few limits on wooing delegates | TBO.com and The Tampa Tribune


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Another poorly researched piece of trash. Ohio law specifically limits donations.
 

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What will Trump offer to uncommitted GOP Delegates?

What are the legal limits of what Trump can offer for a delegate to vote Trump at the convention?


What is the going price for a Cleveland GOP Convention Delegate?



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He will threaten to sue them
 

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He will threaten to sue them

This is the reason Trump is a failure at foreign relations. Trump may be fine as a national president, and sue people or other wise use courts, fines, penalties and prisons. But international relations means trusting your allies to keep their word. Sticking by shared values. Trump seems to be an opportunistic, untrustworthy back stabber, in international relations.
 

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Another poorly researched piece of trash. Ohio law specifically limits donations.




" Subject to divisions (A)(2)(b)(ii) and (iii) of this section and except as otherwise provided in section 102.022 of the Revised Code, identification of every source of income, other than income from a legislative agent identified in division (A)(2)(b)(ii) of this section, received during the preceding calendar year, in the person's own name or by any other person for the person's use or benefit, by the person filing the statement, and a brief description of the nature of the services for which the income was received. If the person filing the statement is a member of the general assembly, the statement shall identify the amount of every source of income received in accordance with the following ranges of amounts: zero or more, but less than one thousand dollars; one thousand dollars or more, but less than ten thousand dollars; ten thousand dollars or more, but less than twenty-five thousand dollars; twenty-five thousand dollars or more, but less than fifty thousand dollars; fifty thousand dollars or more, but less than one hundred thousand dollars; and one hundred thousand dollars or more. Division (A)(2) (b)(i) of this section shall not be construed to require a person filing the statement who derives income from a business or profession to disclose the individual items of income that constitute the gross income of that business or profession, except for those individual items of income that are attributable to the person's or, if the income is shared with the person, the partner's, solicitation of services or goods or performance, arrangement, or facilitation of services or provision of goods on behalf of the business or profession of clients, including corporate clients, who are legislative agents. A person who files the statement under this section shall disclose the identity of and the amount of income received from a person who the public official or employee knows or has reason to know is doing or seeking to do business of any kind with the public official's or employee's agency. "


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Does this Ohio law apply to delegates who are from states other than Ohio?


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" Subject to divisions (A)(2)(b)(ii) and (iii) of this section and except as otherwise provided in section 102.022 of the Revised Code, identification of every source of income, other than income from a legislative agent identified in division (A)(2)(b)(ii) of this section, received during the preceding calendar year, in the person's own name or by any other person for the person's use or benefit, by the person filing the statement, and a brief description of the nature of the services for which the income was received. If the person filing the statement is a member of the general assembly, the statement shall identify the amount of every source of income received in accordance with the following ranges of amounts: zero or more, but less than one thousand dollars; one thousand dollars or more, but less than ten thousand dollars; ten thousand dollars or more, but less than twenty-five thousand dollars; twenty-five thousand dollars or more, but less than fifty thousand dollars; fifty thousand dollars or more, but less than one hundred thousand dollars; and one hundred thousand dollars or more. Division (A)(2) (b)(i) of this section shall not be construed to require a person filing the statement who derives income from a business or profession to disclose the individual items of income that constitute the gross income of that business or profession, except for those individual items of income that are attributable to the person's or, if the income is shared with the person, the partner's, solicitation of services or goods or performance, arrangement, or facilitation of services or provision of goods on behalf of the business or profession of clients, including corporate clients, who are legislative agents. A person who files the statement under this section shall disclose the identity of and the amount of income received from a person who the public official or employee knows or has reason to know is doing or seeking to do business of any kind with the public official's or employee's agency. "


Lawriter - ORC


Does this Ohio law apply to delegates who are from states other than Ohio?


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If the convention is in Cleveland then I'm sure the Ohio law will apply, if only because Kasich is the governor and he'll order prosecutions because he's petty like that.
 
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If the convention is in Cleveland then I'm sure the Ohio law will apply, if only because Kasich is the governor and he'll order prosecutions because he's petty like that.


If political operatives are engaging in Blackmail or Bribery, Ohio laws may apply for acts in Ohio. The laws might also apply if the Bribery or Blackmail were intended to have effect in Ohio.

Should Kasich dispatch Ohio State investigators to make arrests for Bribery and Blackmail, throughout the US and the World?

Is the crime complete, and ripe for arrest, before the delegate actually changes his vote, in response to Bribery, Extortion or Blackmail?

What effect will the laws requiring reporting of gratuities have, on the convention, since enforcement for reporting laws, are only subject to arrest, after the convention is over?





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