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How will the republican voting base react to the fact that they are dying out?

How will conservatives react to become more and more of a minority?

  • They will grumble, but will peacefully respect the will of the people

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • They will double down on gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement

    Votes: 13 76.5%
  • They will blatantly violate the constitution, and try to reinstate Jim Crow era laws

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • There will be a huge uptick in domestic terrorism

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • There will be full blown civil war. The south will become a radioactive wasteland

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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There have been several studies who prove that the GOP's main voting demographic of older whites are dying out.

R.I.P., GOP: Party of old, disillusioned white people is dying a slow death - Salon.com

The GOP Is Dying Off. Literally. - POLITICO Magazine

The younger generations of this country are more diverse, more progressive, more educated, less likely to vote gop, less likely to own firearms, less likely to live on a farm in the middle of nowhere watching Fox news, but more likely to live in an urbane, cosmopolitan, educated city.

It's Official: The U.S. is Becoming a Minority-Majority Nation | US News

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ficantly-more-progressive-than-their-parents/

My question is, how will the older, more conservative, gop voting population of this country react to the fact that they are a dying breed? The best case scenario is that they accept that their ideology is fading fast, and accept that the country is moving forward without them.

However, conservatives are known to be sore losers. Look at the 2000 election, where Al Gore won both the popular and electoral votes, but Bush refused to accept this result, and went to the (conservative dominated) supreme court, which illegally declared him the winner. However, with the conservatives losing political power, and the supreme court about to have its first progressive majority in 40 years, political cheating may not bring conservatives the results they desire.

I am afraid that some red states will double down on gerrymandering. it is a real possibility, as the gop realizes their hopeless situation, that they will try to reinstate Jim Crow voting laws, or try sneakier ways of disenfranchising voters such as raising the age limit, requiring voter id, or concentrating polling stations in right wing dominated neighborhoods.

You also have to remember that the right wing owns the majority of this country's guns. I fear that as the right wing becomes more and more of a minority, that they will turn to violence. Even though they will not win this civil war: the Army has tanks, drones, and thermonuclear weapons, the carnage will be unpleasant to say the least. I most certainly wouldn't put the right wing past terrorism towards innocent civilians: Dylan Roof is a perfect example. In fact, the vast majority of terrorism in the usa is right wing. Right-Wing Extremists Are a Bigger Threat to America Than ISIS

The bottom line is the bigoted conservative old white men are dying out, and being replaced with erudite, intelligent, cosmopolitan voters who are progressive and tolerant. I am simply afraid of the turmoil the country will go through in getting rid of the last remnants of the hateful white privileged reactionaries who have ruled for far too long.
 

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Old people generally do die off. I'm not so sure that's really a function of political ideology.

I wonder how the liberal progressives of this country will feel when they discover that their opinions are soon to be subject to approval based on a little red handbook delineating what is acceptable thought and what isn't.
 

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Old people generally do die off. I'm not so sure that's really a function of political ideology.

I wonder how the liberal progressives of this country will feel when they discover that their opinions are soon to be subject to approval based on a little red handbook delineating what is acceptable thought and what isn't.

The "Little Red Book" of Mao Zedong is simply a philosophy book, a powerful and influential collection of wisdom. It is much better that the teachings of Mao Zedong lead the way of the people versus the teachings of Donald Trump or Fred Phelps
 

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In any nation, the dominant socioeconomic group will try to protect its position at the top. This isn't a conscious decision, but is closer to mob psychology in nature - a mass of people doing things that they would normally never have considered, and not really realizing why they are doing those things to begin with.

As the increasingly lily-white Right diminishes in power and influence (they're still the strongest by far, but the demographic changes, gradual as they are, are essentially irreversible and unstoppable), they will "circle the wagons" to protect their power base, and grow increasingly defensive of their position at the top.

In every such situation in the past I can think of, whether the dominant socioeconomic group was a race, an ethnicity, or a religion, there was significant violence (or even genocide) in the process. Hopefully, we're more educated and peaceful now, and can get through the coming change with a minimum of such senseless violence.
 

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The "Little Red Book" of Mao Zedong is simply a philosophy book, a powerful and influential collection of wisdom. It is much better that the teachings of Mao Zedong lead the way of the people versus the teachings of Donald Trump or Fred Phelps

Right. And if you failed to internalize and act upon that philosophy you had a significant (1:12-20) chance of starving to death, being educated to death or just plain disappearing.
 

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In any nation, the dominant socioeconomic group will try to protect its position at the top. This isn't a conscious decision, but is closer to mob psychology in nature - a mass of people doing things that they would normally never have considered, and not really realizing why they are doing those things to begin with.

As the increasingly lily-white Right diminishes in power and influence (they're still the strongest by far, but the demographic changes, gradual as they are, are essentially irreversible and unstoppable), they will "circle the wagons" to protect their power base, and grow increasingly defensive of their position at the top.

In every such situation in the past I can think of, whether the dominant socioeconomic group was a race, an ethnicity, or a religion, there was significant violence (or even genocide) in the process. Hopefully, we're more educated and peaceful now, and can get through the coming change with a minimum of such senseless violence.

I hope we can get through the change without violence too, but as you said, history does not look promising.
 

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Your question, and poll suggest that people do not change but are static from birth to death.
The problem with that is that people do change, each step forward in life a person makes,
changes their perspective in how they view their life and their place in it.
The perceptions of the roll of government for an 18 year old, could be very different from the same person
when they are 40 years old.
While Social conservatives may be thinning, fiscal conservatives are increasing.
People who understand that the government can only give, what it has taken from others.
Basically "their aint no such thing as a free lunch!"
Even most idealistic social liberals, grow up and realize that their are finite boundaries to government give aways.
 

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Heard this before - in the 1960s and again a few times later. Not sorry to break it to you, but they're replaced as fast as they die out. The younger more hip generation eventually becomes the establishment.
 

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Heard this before - in the 1960s and again a few times later. Not sorry to break it to you, but they're replaced as fast as they die out. The younger more hip generation eventually becomes the establishment.

That may have been true when both the younger and older generations were white dominated, but today, the older, more conservative generation is majority white, while the younger, more forward thinking generation is much more diverse and open minded.

Given that the conservative ideology in the usa is white dominated, it is fair to say that as the country gets more diverse, it will get less and less and less conservative/
 

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Heard this before - in the 1960s and again a few times later. Not sorry to break it to you, but they're replaced as fast as they die out. The younger more hip generation eventually becomes the establishment.

And as the younger generation ages, they become more conservative.
 

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That may have been true when both the younger and older generations were white dominated, but today, the older, more conservative generation is majority white, while the younger, more forward thinking generation is much more diverse and open minded.

Given that the conservative ideology in the usa is white dominated, it is fair to say that as the country gets more diverse, it will get less and less and less conservative/

Next semester take a logic course (and your first ever history course). The conservatism of age does not rely upon race.
 

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Next semester take a logic course (and your first ever history course). The conservatism of age does not rely upon race.

THe conservatism of "age" is actually the conservatism of race, because the older generations are whiter than the younger ones, and therefore more conservative.
 

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THe conservatism of "age" is actually the conservatism of race, because the older generations are whiter than the younger ones, and therefore more conservative.

And that's precisely why I suggest you load up with history courses next semester. What you said is entirely false.

But hey, 20-30 years from now you'll get it.
 

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THe conservatism of "age" is actually the conservatism of race, because the older generations are whiter than the younger ones, and therefore more conservative.

And older pedophiles are worse than younger ones?
 

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20-30 years from now, people sharing my viewpoints, beliefs, and worldviews will be in the white house, congress, and dominate the voting booths as the old white conservative voting base dies out.

The Political Revolution of the Millennial Generation - The Atlantic

Yeah, that's what every generation of high school student has thought. A few more history courses and some real life experience and most of them understand why that just doesn't end up being the reality.
 

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That may have been true when both the younger and older generations were white dominated, but today, the older, more conservative generation is majority white, while the younger, more forward thinking generation is much more diverse and open minded.

Given that the conservative ideology in the usa is white dominated, it is fair to say that as the country gets more diverse, it will get less and less and less conservative/

Heh!

Every generation thinks that their ideas are the best and most "forward thinking". Eventually they figure out that what they are trying isn't really anything new and that it's failed many times before.
 

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Heh!

Every generation thinks that their ideas are the best and most "forward thinking". Eventually they figure out that what they are trying isn't really anything new and that it's failed many times before.

So why is the country getting more and more progressive?
 

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Again no, it's not. In fact your generation are pikers where it comes to progressivism. All talk and no foundation or work ethic. Again, pretty typical in the high school set this last four or five decades.

Sorry kiddo, been there, done that.

Pretty much. Whereas previous generations have gone out and actually DONE something, Millennials tend to sit around and whine on the Internet and don't actually accomplish a damn thing.
 

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So why is the country getting more and more progressive?

Vocal people are more progressive but not much is actually changing in reality. Whining online does not equate to change.
 

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Pretty much. Whereas previous generations have gone out and actually DONE something, Millennials tend to sit around and whine on the Internet and don't actually accomplish a damn thing.

Except for bringing public attention to the deaths of Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, Trayvon Martin, etc.

Except for helping remove a racist University of Missouri Chancellor from office

Except for organizing marches to protest the fascist ideals of Donald Trump

Except for the fact that we will be out in force during the 2016 elections, killing any change the GOP has of winning the presidency or the senate

Except for the fact that we are going to be the voters and leaders of the future, as old white conservatives die out.
 
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