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How will history judge President Trump?

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How will history judge President Trump? | BBC

At the midpoint of Donald Trump's first term, historians have struggled to detect the kind of virtues that offset his predecessors' vices: the infectious optimism of Reagan; the inspirational rhetoric of JFK; the legislative smarts of LBJ; or the governing pragmatism of Nixon.

Seriously, have Trump showed any presidential virtues thus far?
 

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How will history judge President Trump?
not well
nixon will fare better in the obvious comparison
 

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As the most controversial of all times.
 

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Well, one virtue is that he has tried to keep his promises despite roadblocks from both his and the opposition's Party politics.

Imagine how successful he would have been and how high his rating could have been if he didn't have to deal with MSN propaganda, tepid support from Paul Ryan in Congress, and having to deal with Democrat and RINO Senators?

It is easy to say now that he won't fare well...but how history may still see him when viewed with the lens of hindsight? He just might do better then some think. :shrug:

On a side note, while Obama is being lionized today by the Left, history may view him in a less favorable light based on his actual accomplishments, or lack thereof.
 
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When you can't even muster support from the opposition OR from your own party, maybe it's because your ideas simply suck too much. Sorry you have difficulty grasping that.
 

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He'll be judged in the Nixon/Harding/Buchanan basement. Scandals and inefficiency aplenty.
 

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"Trump debuts in last place in political scientists’ “Presidential Greatness Rankings”


"...a group of more than 170 scholars from the American Political Science Association released a survey today (on Presidents’ Day, the national holiday celebrating those who have held the office), which aims to calculate the “greatness” of every US president. Trump debuted in last place..."


Of the 44 men who have served as President of the USA, Trump is rated as the worst.

Worse than Grant.
Worse than Harding and Harrison.


He is a man unfit to be President.



https://qz.com/1210855/presidents-da...ness-rankings/
 

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He'll go down as being reviled by some in his party and the majority of citizens, used by those wishing to pervert American values and as a president who defiled the office, oath of office and the Constitution.
 

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How will history judge President Trump? | BBC


Seriously, have Trump showed any presidential virtues thus far?

Clearly too soon to tell. The obvious shortfall will be decorum. Regarding policy a lot in the air. Will corporate tax cuts make putting factories something more companies will do. Does he break the decades long log jam on immigration reform. Will China be stopped or slowed in their technology theft. Will negotiations with North Korea make a difference. Lets wait until after halftime to make a call.
 

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I think he will be seen as a politician who broke a lot of long standing traditions. Like not politicizing things inside the pentagon. Or not releasing his taxes. Or profiting from the presidency.

Just an overall bad guy. A crook.
 

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How will history judge President Trump? | BBC

This America First president is himself an American first. Indeed, a further reason for the disdain of historians is because, historically speaking, his administration has been like no other. The chaos of staff turnover - two secretaries of state, two secretaries of defence, two attorneys general, three White House chiefs of staff, and a revolving door of senior West Wing aides. The foreign policy by tweet. The chumminess with adversarial authoritarian leaders, such as Kim Jong-un and Vladimir Putin. The blurring of ethical lines supposedly separating the Trump White House from the Trump business empire. The Russia collusion investigation, which has raised questions, so far unsettled, about his true allegiance.
 

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Well, one virtue is that he has tried to keep his promises despite roadblocks from both his and the opposition's Party politics.

Imagine how successful he would have been and how high his rating could have been if he didn't have to deal with MSN propaganda, tepid support from Paul Ryan in Congress, and having to deal with Democrat and RINO Senators?

It is easy to say now that he won't fare well...but how history may still see him when viewed with the lens of hindsight? He just might do better then some think. :shrug:

On a side note, while Obama is being lionized today by the Left, history may view him in a less favorable light based on his actual accomplishments, or lack thereof.

Yes, he promised to run the government like his business.

1) He didn't pay his workers
2) He drove them to bankruptcy due to building up lots of debt
3) He personally profited from other people's miseray.

Yep. He kept those promises.
 

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How will history judge President Trump? | BBC

With each bizarre press encounter and each ALL CAPS tweet, it can sometimes feel as if America is living through some historical counterfactual. It is as if the right-wing populist Pat Buchanan managed to beat George Herbert Walker Bush to the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and, on the strength of his fiery culture war speech to the GOP convention, went on to beat Bill Clinton. Buchanan launched his insurgent campaign with a plea to put "America First" and used the mantra "Make America Great Again." Or maybe the Trump presidency is what a Perot administration might have looked like. Ross Perot, who also sought the presidency in 1992, was another populist billionaire and deep state conspiracy theorist. Yet even Buchanan and Perot, one suspects, would have been more orthodox.
 
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